US Regional Cuisines

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:33 am

Yeah, this feels backwards as fuck. I totally get the NEIPA backlash on its own merits. I really like them and the best ones are still my favorite beers these days, but I also need a counter (and am pretty surprised brux IPAs didn't take off at the same time). HOWEVER ... none of the elite New England breweries I can think of are getting by on NEIPAs only; blind taste test you'd shit over Treehouse's stouts and the saison boys (I'm not one) love Trillium's offerings. These aren't the best NEIPA or even IPA breweries, they're the best breweries.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:33 am

Warm water oysters seems weird to me.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Wed May 13, 2020 11:51 am

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:33 am Yeah, this feels backwards as fuck. I totally get the NEIPA backlash on its own merits. I really like them and the best ones are still my favorite beers these days, but I also need a counter (and am pretty surprised brux IPAs didn't take off at the same time). HOWEVER ... none of the elite New England breweries I can think of are getting by on NEIPAs only; blind taste test you'd shit over Treehouse's stouts and the saison boys (I'm not one) love Trillium's offerings. These aren't the best NEIPA or even IPA breweries, they're the best breweries.

No, they're getting by on NEIPAs and pastry stouts. Treehouse may make other styles from time to time, but no one is standing in line for a pilsner (btw there's a stand-in line pilsner brewery in Denver, that slow pour is fantastic.) Look at their portfolio, everything they have on all time is NEIPA or take on a NEIPA in supposedly different style..a blonde! (but with citra) and then the milk stout.

I think Trillium is waaay better than TH, and they also have a wider portfolio, but that said 99% of the white hats in the beer garden last summer were sipping on something hazy or with adjuncts.

As for saisons, I've come to appreciate them more lately but I'm usually one and done as they're pretty one-note.

ETA: so glad brut IPAs didn't really catch on. Disgusting.

I'd like a nice bitter WCIPA as a counterpoint to the NEIPA.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 13, 2020 12:06 pm

Rush2112 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:51 amNo, they're getting by on NEIPAs and pastry stouts.

Fine, if we're doing it this way ... All middle country beer consumers fall into one of two categories: Ones who are unaware that IPAs have changed since 2007 and ones who are so desperate to look unique they claim Kellerbiers are actually their favorite style.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed May 13, 2020 1:17 pm

brian wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:50 pm
Rush2112 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 4:41 pm
Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:32 pm
Rush2112 wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:31 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 2:27 pm Above has a much deeper bench. I love chili but not every day.
South has chile though. I cannot live without.
But New Mexico is split in half. So you win regardless.
Chile ONLY comes from Hatch which is the south so not taking any chances.
That was pretty much where I landed too. I can live without anything other than Mexican/New Mexican

Fair on Hatch, NM being below the line. (Which leads me to wonder, did this person who originally drew the line know this? Because it's a sneaky wild card.)

But... I've had green and red chile with everything in ABQ and from what I'm told, chile is grown all over the state, but Hatch™ is what's known. I can't taste the difference. Sooooo, you can still get great New Mexican food and it doesn't need the trademarked chile.

That said. Sonoran Hot Dogs are ONLY a southern Arizona thing. So I'm basically taking that plus Texas brisket and Cajun vs Everything. And I don't know how to choose, exactly.

(Sidethought: Hatch™ chile on a fucking Sonoran Hot Dog. Why have I not thought about this until now?)

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed May 13, 2020 1:29 pm

Johnnie. Listen to me. Mister D drew the line. Get out now.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed May 13, 2020 1:45 pm

For realsies? I just thought it was an image graphic from BuzzFeed or something that posed the question and he shared it here.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 13, 2020 2:09 pm

Nah, was talking about it with a friend in terms of "how low does the line have to go before you'd pick above" and I thought it would be a great #conversationstarter.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed May 13, 2020 3:31 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:33 am Yeah, this feels backwards as fuck. I totally get the NEIPA backlash on its own merits.

Are 'NEIPA's the same as Hazy IPA's? Cause I've been way into them lately.

Had one when we were in Santa Cruz in the beforeTimes, that they called a 'foggy' IPA.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 13, 2020 3:33 pm

Yeah, interchangeable, with the caveat that there are natural and very unnatural ways of creating that haze.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed May 13, 2020 3:39 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 3:33 pm Yeah, interchangeable, with the caveat that there are natural and very unnatural ways of creating that haze.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed May 13, 2020 4:16 pm

When is the Sean William Scott-aissance going to happen?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed May 13, 2020 5:18 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 11:33 am Yeah, this feels backwards as fuck. I totally get the NEIPA backlash on its own merits. I really like them and the best ones are still my favorite beers these days, but I also need a counter (and am pretty surprised brux IPAs didn't take off at the same time). HOWEVER ... none of the elite New England breweries I can think of are getting by on NEIPAs only; blind taste test you'd shit over Treehouse's stouts and the saison boys (I'm not one) love Trillium's offerings. These aren't the best NEIPA or even IPA breweries, they're the best breweries.

100% agree. Everything Trillium makes is in the discussion for best beer I've ever had. I'm not big on Saisons, but Trillium saisons are phenomenal. Maybe they taste more like an IPA because they are heavily dry hopped. Trillium's sours are the real standout for me. Their NEIPAs are world class, so are their pastry stouts, but the fruited sours are miles beyond other sours. I enjoy an occasional sour, but I could drink Trillium sours every day. Forgot I have a couple left from my last trip to Boston, as I never think to go into the sour section of my basement.

When I think pastry stouts, I think Other Half, Evil Twin, Prairie and Westbrook.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:41 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 4:16 pm When is the Sean William Scott-aissance going to happen?

It was called Goon.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed May 13, 2020 6:46 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 6:41 pm
rass wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 4:16 pm When is the Sean William Scott-aissance going to happen?
It was called Goon.

Haven’t seen it! Will withdraw my complaint until I finally do.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm

Below won, dickfuckers.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.

I might change my mind. "Never have Mexican food again" vs. "Never have Italian food again" is a toss-up.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.
I might change my mind. "Never have Mexican food again" vs. "Never have Italian food again" is a toss-up.

Sorry, voting is closed. Can I interest you in some stone crab?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.
I might change my mind. "Never have Mexican food again" vs. "Never have Italian food again" is a toss-up.
Sorry, voting is closed. Can I interest you in some stone crab?

Or Cuban?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:53 pm
Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.
I might change my mind. "Never have Mexican food again" vs. "Never have Italian food again" is a toss-up.
Sorry, voting is closed. Can I interest you in some stone crab?
Or Cuban?

Or anything from New Orleans?

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:56 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.

Go celebrate with some egg noodles and ketchup.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 7:59 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:56 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.
Go celebrate with some egg noodles and ketchup.

I need to lose some lbs. anyway. Less pasta won't kill me.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:06 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.

Seriously. What a bunch of Cuntmuppets

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:14 pm

Lol, enjoy beignets and cornmeal for breakfast every day, losers!

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:14 pm Lol, enjoy beignets and cornmeal for breakfast every day, losers!

The existence of grits alone should give the win to the North.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:43 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:14 pm Lol, enjoy beignets and cornmeal for breakfast every day, losers!
The existence of grits alone should give the win to the North.

Biscuits and gravy would like a word. Shit, just fucking biscuits would like a word. Gravy can let him handle it.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 13, 2020 8:49 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:43 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:14 pm Lol, enjoy beignets and cornmeal for breakfast every day, losers!
The existence of grits alone should give the win to the North.
Biscuits and gravy would like a word. Shit, just fucking biscuits would like a word. Gravy can let him handle it.

Yeah wtf. Biscuits belong to the south.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Wed May 13, 2020 9:01 pm

Most of “The South” is above the line that whoever did that map created. All that was left was the desert southwest, Texas and the gUlf Coast.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed May 13, 2020 9:05 pm

A couple of minutes of googling is enough to convince me that we have the industries of the north to thank for the leavening agents that made biscuits possible so enjoy your grits.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Wed May 13, 2020 9:17 pm

rass wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:05 pm A couple of minutes of googling is enough to convince me that we have the industries of the north to thank for the leavening agents that made biscuits possible so enjoy your grits.

I like grits.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed May 13, 2020 10:31 pm

I'd think biscuits and gravy would be south unless someone can prove some city has a greater claim.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu May 14, 2020 5:38 am

Johnny Carwash wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 7:48 pm Below won, dickfuckers.
I might change my mind. "Never have Mexican food again" vs. "Never have Italian food again" is a toss-up.

Albuquerque is above the line. Taking "north" gets both.

You just don't get Hatch chile with your Mexican food.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu May 14, 2020 5:53 am

Absolutely housing maple-blueberry-cheddar lobster rolls right now

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu May 14, 2020 8:16 am

Also, do Hatch chiles cure cancer or something? Jesus.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu May 14, 2020 8:20 am

Ryan wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 8:16 am Also, do Hatch chiles cure cancer or something? Jesus.

They're trying, Ryan.

Post by **Sabo** » Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:34 pm
Rex wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:14 pm Lol, enjoy beignets and cornmeal for breakfast every day, losers!
The existence of grits alone should give the win to the North.

You do know grits and polenta are virtually identical, right?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 14, 2020 9:00 am

I swear Johnnie is intentionally ignoring the fun rules.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu May 14, 2020 9:10 am

It ain't no fun if the homies can't have none*.

*Mexican food

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu May 14, 2020 9:15 am

THE WHOLE POINT IS TO HAVE TO MAKE EITHER/OR DECISIONS!!!

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu May 14, 2020 9:50 am

Shrimp and grits are fucking delicious.

If you could only eat food from the continental 48 above or below this line, which are you picking?