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Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:03 pm
by rass
Drew did his research for that NYG WYTS because Totowa is shady and pretty racist.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:31 pm
by sancarlos
I'm sorry if this has been explained upthread. But, I am not (yet) a subscriber, and I was able to read articles on the site. Is there an article limit for non-subscribers? Is this a free trial period?

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:41 pm
by Ryan
I assume it’s free right now because of sponsorship

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:39 pm
by sancarlos
Ryan wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:41 pm I assume it’s free right now because of sponsorship
Ok, great. I think somebody posted upthread that it would be subscription-based.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:50 pm
by A_B
I started getting the login page after a few articles. I’ll subscribe soon.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:41 pm
by DaveInSeattle
Was nice to have it back. Made me realize how much I'd missed it over the past few months. Even though I don't watch football anymore, I still enjoy the WYTS posts, and releasing 4 at a time wasn't great for my work productivity today.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:33 pm
by A_B
Just signed up for this and the athletic at the discounted rate. Have to think the athletic discount was a direct result of the defector.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:05 am
by DSafetyGuy
A_B wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:33 pm Just signed up for this and the athletic at the discounted rate. Have to think the athletic discount was a direct result of the defector.
I don't think so. The two are vastly different sites. Athletic has been promoting that they just got their millionth subscriber and had a deal to "celebrate" that fact.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:58 am
by blundercrush
Deadspin was one of the few sports sites where if someone did something wrong/shady, you'd likely actually get the truth from Deadspin. There were a lot of bullshit articles as well, and I wouldn't read it for actual sports analysis, though why your team sucks is fun. Immediately signed up to defector.

Both the Ringer and The Athletic have done a horrible job hiring women and POC. ESPN ironically is the one stand out.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am
by A_B
Defector is sucking shit this week.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:30 am
by L-Jam3
The final mailbag question on the podcast regarding Jameis made me chuckle loud enough to interrupt my fiancee's work meeting.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:36 am
by DaveInSeattle
L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:30 am The final mailbag question on the podcast regarding Jameis made me chuckle loud enough to interrupt my fiancee's work meeting.
Yep...thinking about Jameis "eating the W" on a landing craft in 'Saving Private Ryan' is a funny visual.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:48 am
by mister d
A_B wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am Defector is sucking shit this week.
The Dwight Howard article was (1) written for me and (2) a foreshadowing of how people will eventually view late career Embiid.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:06 am
by DaveInSeattle
The interview with the competitive gardener from Wales that just posted is a delight.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 am
by tennbengal
A_B wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am Defector is sucking shit this week.
?

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:21 am
by A_B
tennbengal wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 am
A_B wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am Defector is sucking shit this week.
?
I don't think the articles have been very good.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:44 am
by DSafetyGuy
L-Jam3 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:30 am The final mailbag question on the podcast regarding Jameis made me chuckle loud enough to interrupt my fiancee's work meeting.
Last week's pod with Bomani was excellent.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:50 am
by tennbengal
A_B wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:21 am
tennbengal wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 am
A_B wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:18 am Defector is sucking shit this week.
?
I don't think the articles have been very good.
Ah. I haven't gotten to read much this week.

I don't like the new layout - I liked the newest article on top style. I can get over that.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:04 pm
by tennbengal
<skims the site>

Is this because of the Bauer piece?

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:35 pm
by rass
Read a lot this week. Really liked the piece on the cluster eff during the Sydney 2000 gymnastics competition. Enjoyed having a place to go and browse.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:13 pm
by brian
Looks like I finally gotta pay to get my David Roth fix. Anyone seen any discount codes yet? I'll pay the full price if I have to, but if I can save $20 or so, well that's good!

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by sancarlos
brian wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:13 pm Looks like I finally gotta pay to get my David Roth fix. Anyone seen any discount codes yet? I'll pay the full price if I have to, but if I can save $20 or so, well that's good!
Yeah. What he said.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:53 pm
by Steve of phpBB

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:58 pm
by tennbengal
It was perfect.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:47 pm
by DSafetyGuy
I adore Albert Burneko's column on the end of Quibi from today.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 am
by rass
DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:47 pm I adore Albert Burneko's column on the end of Quibi from today.
That was great.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:14 am
by rass
The quick article on The Trip last night was also great

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 am
by tennbengal
Feels like they are shaking the rust off.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:22 am
by A_B
tennbengal wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 am Feels like they are shaking the rust off.
And the ringer is ripping them off, too. They had an article on the Arsenal Women's striker a couple of days ago and now The Ringer does, too. I think this type of thing has happened a couple of times since the defector launch.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:18 pm
by A_B
DIana Moskovitz is great, too.

"Perhaps Lauren McCluskey’s memory will be a revolution or, at the very least, a step toward it. Her face will be forever frozen in amber, a permanent 21, as students and visitors over the coming years and decades see her name on buildings and on her foundation and ask who she was. She will not grow old, or get her first job after college, or stress out about her taxes, or get embarrassed when she still has to ask her parents for help. Instead, the story of her life will be the story of an unnecessary loss that, if leaders do what they say, will make the place where she died safer for all women."

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm
by EnochRoot
Deadspin didn’t just better as it aged, it got a lot better. Delaware aptly pointed out it was basically one of the only places on the internet speaking truth to power. Or at least, in North American society anyway.

Was it simply a corporate raider that bumbled Deadspin to death, or was it a coordinated silencing? And if it was, who would tell that story?

And did you have to pay to stay-out-of the grays? Was that a donation thing? I had an account, OhBrotherWhereArtHowe, and I suppose I had a few posts over the years get un-grayed but the whole “you better write a great one to get seen” thing was too off-putting. There were commenters in the black, seemingly always so, that really didn’t add much other than low-grade snark that kept me wondering.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:54 pm
by A_B
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Deadspin didn’t just better as it aged, it got a lot better. Delaware aptly pointed out it was basically one of the only places on the internet speaking truth to power. Or at least, in North American society anyway.

Was it simply a corporate raider that bumbled Deadspin to death, or was it a coordinated silencing? And if it was, who would tell that story?

And did you have to pay to stay-out-of the grays? Was that a donation thing? I had an account, OhBrotherWhereArtHowe, and I suppose I had a few posts over the years get un-grayed but the whole “you better write a great one to get seen” thing was too off-putting. There were commenters in the black, seemingly always so, that really didn’t add much other than low-grade snark that kept me wondering.

Well, Deadspin themselves told the story on Deadspin and then they either got fired or resigned.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:58 pm
by EnochRoot
A_B wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:54 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Deadspin didn’t just better as it aged, it got a lot better. Delaware aptly pointed out it was basically one of the only places on the internet speaking truth to power. Or at least, in North American society anyway.

Was it simply a corporate raider that bumbled Deadspin to death, or was it a coordinated silencing? And if it was, who would tell that story?

And did you have to pay to stay-out-of the grays? Was that a donation thing? I had an account, OhBrotherWhereArtHowe, and I suppose I had a few posts over the years get un-grayed but the whole “you better write a great one to get seen” thing was too off-putting. There were commenters in the black, seemingly always so, that really didn’t add much other than low-grade snark that kept me wondering.

Well, Deadspin themselves told the story on Deadspin and then they either got fired or resigned.
Yeah, I suppose I should’ve acknowledged that. I’m talking about a sourced piece from an uninterested party.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:41 pm
by DaveInSeattle
A_B wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:22 am
tennbengal wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 am Feels like they are shaking the rust off.
And the ringer is ripping them off, too. They had an article on the Arsenal Women's striker a couple of days ago and now The Ringer does, too. I think this type of thing has happened a couple of times since the defector launch.
The Ringer has recently brought the Stadio podcast under their umbrella, and the two guys from there, Musa Okwonga and Ryan Hunn, are the guys who have been doing those stories for the Ringer. They are big supporters of the FA WSL.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:57 pm
by DSafetyGuy
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:58 pm
A_B wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:54 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Deadspin didn’t just better as it aged, it got a lot better. Delaware aptly pointed out it was basically one of the only places on the internet speaking truth to power. Or at least, in North American society anyway.

Was it simply a corporate raider that bumbled Deadspin to death, or was it a coordinated silencing? And if it was, who would tell that story?

And did you have to pay to stay-out-of the grays? Was that a donation thing? I had an account, OhBrotherWhereArtHowe, and I suppose I had a few posts over the years get un-grayed but the whole “you better write a great one to get seen” thing was too off-putting. There were commenters in the black, seemingly always so, that really didn’t add much other than low-grade snark that kept me wondering.

Well, Deadspin themselves told the story on Deadspin and then they either got fired or resigned.
Yeah, I suppose I should’ve acknowledged that. I’m talking about a sourced piece from an uninterested party.
Well, it goes back to Peter Thiel bankrolling Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against Deadspin (created the bankruptcy/money issues that resulted in Deadspin being sold multiple times). To my knowledge, that has never been reported on by a third party.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:37 pm
by rass
Not sure where else to put this, but a slow boil is finally coming to a head. If you don’t know him from KSK might now be so interesting. Never been in the position he claims he is in, but I agree with the first reply guy there.



Re: Defector.com

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:34 pm
by sancarlos
I also agree with that first commenter. I was unaware of this whole beef. It's hard to have too strong of an opinion, not knowing what Drew specifically did to Mike Tunison to earn such grim animosity. To some degree it appears to be professional jealousy - in that Drew publicly mea culpa'd for his past sexist behavior and didn't get canceled, and apparently, Tunison says he received harsh treatment, himself, and didn't get the professional forgiveness Drew received. But, for him to be this pissed, there has to be more, doesn't there? What did Drew do to him, personally?

I've always loved Magary's work, so this is sad.

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:06 am
by tennbengal

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:15 am
by govmentchedda
Quite good

Re: Defector.com

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:18 am
by mister d
sancarlos wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:34 pmBut, for him to be this pissed, there has to be more, doesn't there? What did Drew do to him, personally?
I would have been more inclined to agree with this before reading the whole post.