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A_B wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:04 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 am Bipartisanship is such a weird campaign tactic against an unpopular incumbent.
Is it? I feel like appealing to some of those turned off by Trump isn’t a terrible thing.
No, it's not a weird/terrible thing at all.
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You guys bitching about Biden are fucking insane at this point.

Trump and this brand of evil needs to get kicked in the ass.

But, yes, please.. Continue to wring your hands about Biden being a moderate/centrist. That's the fucking point right now.

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A_B wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:04 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 am Bipartisanship is such a weird campaign tactic against an unpopular incumbent.
Is it? I feel like appealing to some of those turned off by Trump isn’t a terrible thing.
One of the reasons some people dislike Trump (or politics in the Trump era) is the nasty partisanship. Appearing bipartisan is how you appeal to them.

And remember that only 25% of the public self-identifies as liberal. So for a Dem to win, he or she needs to appeal to moderates.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:30 am
A_B wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:04 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 am Bipartisanship is such a weird campaign tactic against an unpopular incumbent.
Is it? I feel like appealing to some of those turned off by Trump isn’t a terrible thing.
One of the reasons some people dislike Trump (or politics in the Trump era) is the nasty partisanship. Appearing bipartisan is how you appeal to them.

And remember that only 25% of the public self-identifies as liberal. So for a Dem to win, he or she needs to appeal to moderates.
So, to be clear, was I being nonsensical before or not?
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Joe K wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:32 pm Also gotta love how the unreasonable position here is me taking Biden at his word on questions he was asked with this exact scenario in mind.
There’s nothing reasonable about taking a politician at his word In one particular instance that suits you after you’ve spent months claiming he’s a serial liar.

Obviously neither you or I know what Biden will do if the Rs jam a replacement through. But you appear to be basing your prediction on the supposed fact that Biden cares too much about being liked by Republicans. *That* is nonsense. Biden was involved in ramming the ACA down the GOP’s throat when they united against it.

If your argument depends on ignoring the biggest legislative battle of this century, it’s just not a persuasive argument.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:19 am You guys bitching about Biden are fucking insane at this point.

Trump and this brand of evil needs to get kicked in the ass.

But, yes, please.. Continue to wring your hands about Biden being a moderate/centrist. That's the fucking point right now.

Fucking Hell.
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Maybe just stop taking weird victory laps for your predictions about President Biden when it's still 1.5 weeks from the election?
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:17 am
A_B wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:04 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 am Bipartisanship is such a weird campaign tactic against an unpopular incumbent.
Is it? I feel like appealing to some of those turned off by Trump isn’t a terrible thing.
No, it's not a weird/terrible thing at all.
Whether a bunch of white male liberals believe it or not, this is what a lot of the country wants to see.
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Joe K wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:36 am
Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:30 am
A_B wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:04 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 am Bipartisanship is such a weird campaign tactic against an unpopular incumbent.
Is it? I feel like appealing to some of those turned off by Trump isn’t a terrible thing.
One of the reasons some people dislike Trump (or politics in the Trump era) is the nasty partisanship. Appearing bipartisan is how you appeal to them.

And remember that only 25% of the public self-identifies as liberal. So for a Dem to win, he or she needs to appeal to moderates.
So, to be clear, was I being nonsensical before or not?
Steve of phpBB wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:33 am
Joe K wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:32 pm Also gotta love how the unreasonable position here is me taking Biden at his word on questions he was asked with this exact scenario in mind.
There’s nothing reasonable about taking a politician at his word In one particular instance that suits you after you’ve spent months claiming he’s a serial liar.

Obviously neither you or I know what Biden will do if the Rs jam a replacement through. But you appear to be basing your prediction on the supposed fact that Biden cares too much about being liked by Republicans. *That* is nonsense. Biden was involved in ramming the ACA down the GOP’s throat when they united against it.

If your argument depends on ignoring the biggest legislative battle of this century, it’s just not a persuasive argument.
I think you’re missing the key distinction. There’s a difference between how a candidate needs to appear in order to win election, and what he or she actually does if and when they win. This difference is especially acute for Dems, since liberalism is so much less popular on a nationwide basis than conservatism.

Obama ran on a “let’s get rid of partisanship” platform. Then as I pointed out in that quote, he and Biden rammed through massive tax increases and healthcare reforms over complete R opposition.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:52 am Maybe just stop taking weird victory laps for your predictions about President Biden when it's still 1.5 weeks from the election?
I would be less inclined to take a “weird victory laps” if my initial prediction wasn’t derided as “100% wrong” and “nonsense” one month before Biden said that he’ll do the very thing I predicted, for the same reason I said so. Sorry that upsets you.

Probably time for someone to start a separate thread where it’s okay to critique Democrats on matters of national importance like the Supreme Court.
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Joe K wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47 amI’m not sure about Mr. D but not only can I walk and chew gum at the same
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mister d wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:24 am
Joe K wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:47 amI’m not sure about Mr. D but not only can I walk and chew gum at the same
Nope. While complaining about the party bending over backwards to “be fair” to Coney Barrett, I accidentally donated several thousand to Act Red.
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Joe K wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:18 am
P.D.X. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:52 am Maybe just stop taking weird victory laps for your predictions about President Biden when it's still 1.5 weeks from the election?
I would be less inclined to take a “weird victory laps” if my initial prediction wasn’t derided as “100% wrong” and “nonsense” one month before Biden said that he’ll do the very thing I predicted, for the same reason I said so. Sorry that upsets you.

Probably time for someone to start a separate thread where it’s okay to critique Democrats on matters of national importance like the Supreme Court.
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Wait. Joe, what do you think you’ve been proven right about? I think I’m missing something with this talk about victory laps.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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As for tonight, once again, I will NOT be watching this. Good luck to Biden, because Trump is gonna spew so much defamatory and libelous shit I have no idea how it can be handled in a way that avoids being dragged into the mud.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:47 am Wait. Joe, what do you think you’ve been proven right about? I think I’m missing something with this talk about victory laps.
He's apparently from the future.
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tennbengal wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:48 am As for tonight, once again, I will NOT be watching this. Good luck to Biden, because Trump is gonna spew so much defamatory and libelous shit I have no idea how it can be handled in a way that avoids being dragged into the mud.
Yup. I’ll be cowering in the next room, doomscrolling and waiting for it to be over.
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Why would anyone watch that when the NFC East is on?
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Trump is going to be a jerk tonight. His interview with Lesley Stahl was released and its cringe worthy.

Anyways, I think the email scandal is going to crush Biden. Especially with photos of under age girls being with the Delaware Police. Fuckin Dems and their emails.
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Rex wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:07 am Why would anyone watch that when the NFC East is on?
Wouldn’t be surprised if football got higher ratings tonight.

Both in viewership and in quality of the action.
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psunate77 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:19 pm Anyways, I think the email scandal is going to crush Biden. Especially with photos of under age girls being with the Delaware Police. Fuckin Dems and their emails.
You know that the only people claiming 'underage girls' are Rudy and Trump Jr, right?
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Interview seemed pretty standard. Wouldn't even call that walking out. If not for all the hype no one would care.
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It's actually embarrassing they're going with emails again. At least freshen it up with some TikToks they found or some texts or even a carrier pigeon. But the same fucking textbook from last time? This is why the Apprentice got cancelled.
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So Twitter is all aflutter about Trump releasing the video from the upcoming 60 minutes interview that he quit early.

It appears the highlight is him saying he wants the Supreme Court to get rid of Obamacare before the election. When Lesley Stahl pressed him on patients with pre-existing conditions who'd lose coverage, he insisted that they'd be protected. She asked, "How?", and he wouldn't/couldn't say how, and got pissed at the question. Of course, the ACA is the only thing forcing them to cover pre-existing conditions, and Trump insisting they'd be protected without giving a basis for how that would occur just doesn't cut it.

Fuckin' A, right, it's a damned good question. I have a big-ass pre-existing condition, and i'm on ACA. No insurance company is going to cover me if they don't have to. Keeping the ACA is kind of a big deal.
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That's a great example sancarlos.
Man what a mess. It seems the more I learn about US healthcare the less I know. There are so many gaps.
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Yeah I was without insurance for a few months before ACA kicked in because no one would accept me as a 36 y/o with a couple of degenerative disks.
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psunate77 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:19 pm

Anyways, I think the email scandal is going to crush Biden. Especially with photos of under age girls being with the Delaware Police. Fuckin Dems and their emails.
Dude, the journalist who worked on the story for the Post refused to put his name on it, because he doesn't believe the authenticity of the documents. Rudy said in an interview he brought the story to the Post because they were the only publication that wouldn't vet the story. Rudy first brought the story to FoxNews, and they refused to run it until the Post ran the story, and they could cite the Post. THERE IS NO FUCKING STORY HERE!!?!?!? Other than Rudy planting a story, potentially with the help of the known Russian Intel agent he runs around with. Give it up with this.
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sancarlos wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:29 pm So Twitter is all aflutter about Trump releasing the video from the upcoming 60 minutes interview that he quit early.

It appears the highlight is him saying he wants the Supreme Court to get rid of Obamacare before the election. When Lesley Stahl pressed him on patients with pre-existing conditions who'd lose coverage, he insisted that they'd be protected. She asked, "How?", and he wouldn't/couldn't say how, and got pissed at the question. Of course, the ACA is the only thing forcing them to cover pre-existing conditions, and Trump insisting they'd be protected without giving a basis for how that would occur just doesn't cut it.

Fuckin' A, right, it's a damned good question. I have a big-ass pre-existing condition, and i'm on ACA. No insurance company is going to cover me if they don't have to. Keeping the ACA is kind of a big deal.

He's been saying the same thing for 5 years about the ACA and pre-existing conditions. It's pretty remarkable this is one of the very few times he's been asked about it directly.

The guy just lies out of his ass about EVERYTHING.
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I think the emails are probably authentic, or most of them anyway, but they don't actually constitute evidence of a scandal.

I fear that the focus on authenticity could backfire - like the focus on collusion - because it's not the real issue. So if there is some more reliable report that "The Emails are Real!" it could be like finding "more emails" on Huma Abedin's laptop last time around. There was nothing remotely scandalous about emails to or from Hillary Clinton being on the laptop of a top aide. But it became a scandal just because it was something that was discovered right before the election.

I just want people to keep getting those early votes in while Biden has a big lead. Just in case.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:02 pm I think the emails are probably authentic, or most of them anyway, but they don't actually constitute evidence of a scandal.

I fear that the focus on authenticity could backfire - like the focus on collusion - because it's not the real issue. So if there is some more reliable report that "The Emails are Real!" it could be like finding "more emails" on Huma Abedin's laptop last time around. There was nothing remotely scandalous about emails to or from Hillary Clinton being on the laptop of a top aide. But it became a scandal just because it was something that was discovered right before the election.

I just want people to keep getting those early votes in while Biden has a big lead. Just in case.
Nothing is going to stick. People were actively looking for reasons not to vote for Hillary. She was really unpopular with a ton of folks, not just those that watch Fox.

There just isn't that vibe with Joe. The best shot you can take at him is he's old and kind of doddering. That still stack up better than your creepy/angry Uncle that gets drunk and tells racist stories at T'giving.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:23 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:02 pm I think the emails are probably authentic, or most of them anyway, but they don't actually constitute evidence of a scandal.

I fear that the focus on authenticity could backfire - like the focus on collusion - because it's not the real issue. So if there is some more reliable report that "The Emails are Real!" it could be like finding "more emails" on Huma Abedin's laptop last time around. There was nothing remotely scandalous about emails to or from Hillary Clinton being on the laptop of a top aide. But it became a scandal just because it was something that was discovered right before the election.

I just want people to keep getting those early votes in while Biden has a big lead. Just in case.
Nothing is going to stick. People were actively looking for reasons not to vote for Hillary. She was really unpopular with a ton of folks, not just those that watch Fox.

There just isn't that vibe with Joe. The best shot you can take at him is he's old and kind of doddering. That still stack up better than your creepy/angry Uncle that gets drunk and tells racist stories at T'giving.
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Already voted. Wouldn't care even if I hadn't. I'm going to vote for Trump because the other guy is corrupt?
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Yay batshit insane! Great idea to constantly remind the country that you’re the candidate that brings that to the table.
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Good luck being more insane than Jason Garrett’s pass route concepts
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Football coach does seem to be the one occupation that takes masks less seriously than the President
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