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tennbengal wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:37 pm
P.D.X. wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:27 pm And I don't think it's outlandish to think that leo's shooting black people is part of the plan.
I murmured in here that Floyd's shooting seemed rather brazen and...planned? Like if you are trying to set something off planned. It got laughed at. It was probably not a great thought. But it crossed my head again after what happened in Kenosha that...just maybe.
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This is what worries me, Democrats who will vote for Trump.

6 Democrat Minnesota mayors are endorsing Trump cause he does more for working class people then Biden?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB18vpoF
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Looks like Trump’s popularity among the military is dropping big time.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... for-biden/
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That gives me hope, but it ultimately doesn't do much for me.

The fact that it isn't higher actually pisses me off. Just goes to show that the miliary is pulled from mostly red, mostly white, mostly socioeconomically depressed areas of the country where 'patriotism' is high or whatever the fuck.
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Say what you want about the Lincoln Project, but you know if Trump sees this shit it absolutely makes him go nuclear.

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Biden is responding. Seems to be striking a good note from what I can glean. I liked this:

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And unless I miss my guess, this is a GREAT frame- puts the spotlight back on Trump as being weak if he continues to call for brownshirts violence. That may have a chance to slowing him down a bit and shifting narrative:

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Also, delivering this speech in Pittsburgh is a nice strategic choice.
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Posted those last two because those are NOT centrist DNC voices. Sounds like a very good day for Biden. Good deal.
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Well written, poorly presented, IMO. Maybe it's the speech issues that he's got, but that wasn't as effective as it could have been.






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Why President Trump's Big Ten tweets aren't going to make a difference
Trump’s transparent setting up of [Big 10 commish] Warren as a political punching bag this fall to court votes in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan is so obvious that the only surprise is that he didn’t do it sooner.

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Nonlinear FC wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm Sometimes I wish I didn't have to be relatively careful on social media.

"Do you think the RNC is bummed about the timing of the Kenosha shooting? I mean... If this had all happened last week they could've added the 17 year old white murderer to the speaking roster in Charlotte."
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TT2.0 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:56 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm Sometimes I wish I didn't have to be relatively careful on social media.

"Do you think the RNC is bummed about the timing of the Kenosha shooting? I mean... If this had all happened last week they could've added the 17 year old white murderer to the speaking roster in Charlotte."
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TT2.0 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:56 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:58 pm Sometimes I wish I didn't have to be relatively careful on social media.

"Do you think the RNC is bummed about the timing of the Kenosha shooting? I mean... If this had all happened last week they could've added the 17 year old white murderer to the speaking roster in Charlotte."
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Rush2112 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:40 am Image


2 inch heels?
Please tell me this photo is the aftermath of the hurricane that hit Lake Charles and not the results of civil unrest.
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The layers of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance from the Right about the protests and riots are astounding. The Right is constantly attacking for Biden for not calling out rioters, or worse, somehow supporting and encouraging rioting, while he has publicly condemned the violence, looting and destruction numerous times. Meanwhile, Trump praises a murderous 17 year old child who illegally crossed state lines with an AR-15 he can't legally own and sought out violence. The RNC invites the gun-toting nutjobs from St. Louis as speakers, and Trump praises the pickup truck brigades with Trump flags shooting peaceful protesters with paint ball guns, pepper spray and mace.

I'm also sick of hearing about "Portland being on fire!?!?!" for 90 days. If the violence and destruction is really that bad, wouldn't a small city like Portland have been wiped off the map by now? I have a friend who lives in Portland and according to her, there is one block to avoid, but the rest of the city is pretty much normal.
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a Vaccine is going to be available by November 1st.. Imagine that
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psunate77 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:21 pm a Vaccine is going to be available by November 1st.. Imagine that
Hmmmm...

I have a loonie that says there won't be.
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Pruitt wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:22 pm
psunate77 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:21 pm a Vaccine is going to be available by November 1st.. Imagine that
Hmmmm...

I have a loonie that says there won't be.
Won't be available, but I have a Ben Franklin that says Trump will declare that HE created a miracle vaccine. Bonus if Trump declares that if Biden wins, Biden will prevent it from getting to market, as Biden is an authoritarian who wants to control everyone.
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The Sybian wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:48 pm
Pruitt wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:22 pm
psunate77 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:21 pm a Vaccine is going to be available by November 1st.. Imagine that
Hmmmm...

I have a loonie that says there won't be.
Won't be available, but I have a Ben Franklin that says Trump will declare that HE created a miracle vaccine. Bonus if Trump declares that if Biden wins, Biden will prevent it from getting to market, as Biden is an authoritarian who wants to control everyone.
Not going near that wager.
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This is especially interesting in the Fox News polls just out in WI, AZ and NC (8, 9 and 4 Biden leads) - look at these numbers on the sub-questions of policing (poll taken after RNC):

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I'm still not trusting polls in this environment. They're nice to look at, but are ultimately meaningless.
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I'm not asking you to trust them. But I am putting them out there because it's a useful check on the TRUMP-HAS-MOMENTUM-HE'S-WINNING-ON-PROTESTS shit. Turns out, maybe not so much...
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Rally the troops.
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Holy fucking what.

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I understand that there are a lot of idiots out there, and people that will vote R no matter what, but it confounds me that Trump isn't down by double digits everywhere....like how many wannabe fascist racists are there?
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Rush2112 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:08 pm I understand that there are a lot of idiots out there, and people that will vote R no matter what, but it confounds me that Trump isn't down by double digits everywhere....like how many wannabe fascist racists are there?
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It’s a cult. Period.
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If you are on Facebook, read the comments on one of those spam Trump fundraising posts. They are something to behold. These people don’t just support him. They worship him. (I suppose some of the posts are by bots, but still...)
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I think a lot of people just don't pay as much attention as we do.
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govmentchedda wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:26 am I think a lot of people just don't pay as much attention as we do.
This. And many of those folks basically think that taxes and crime are always going up - even though they're both historically low right now - and so a Republican message of "we won't coddle criminals" and "we won't raise your taxes" appeals to them.
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