EPL 2020/21

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Shirley » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:33 am

Chelsea finally signed a new goalie. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54274909

Kepa is now our league cup goalie.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by govmentchedda » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:36 am

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Now that I'm officially an expert, here are some things that should change about soccer:
- The entire 18 yard box shouldn't be a penalty, it should be reshaped
- The player who draws the penalty or has the last touch should take the penalty
The Football Ramble podcast read a listener email from a guy named Dave about resizing the penalty area like basketball's 3 pt line today.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:44 am

Ha, but that's not what I would have said and maybe kinda the opposite? Something closer to this:
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Because isn't the blue X a more dangerous direct position than the red X?
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by govmentchedda » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:57 am

mister d wrote:
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Ha, but that's not what I would have said and maybe kinda the opposite? Something closer to this:
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Because isn't the blue X a more dangerous direct position than the red X?
Definitely.

Also, it looks like the Peacock programming is a little more normal this week.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:59 am

This is all from KDB's penalty. Like obviously it was a universal positive, but the location seems like its begging players to go down if they can.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:16 pm

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Nonlinear FC » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:41 pm

govmentchedda wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:57 am
mister d wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:44 am
Ha, but that's not what I would have said and maybe kinda the opposite? Something closer to this:
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Because isn't the blue X a more dangerous direct position than the red X?
Definitely.

Also, it looks like the Peacock programming is a little more normal this week.
Not really sure about that. Totally depends on what's going on in both spots.

If a guy has the ball at the blue X, but the defending team is organized, that's not a big deal. If a guy has the ball at the red X, the goalie is an extremely vulnerable situation. Red X can shoot near or far post or pass to the middle or back post and the goalie is kind of in a fucked situation. Blue X, as a goalie, I can see all of his potential options Red X, I've got my side/back to almost 60 percent of the field.

I would agree that a three point line/arc is a good solution. The top corners of the box just aren't as threatening as they are made to be with the current penalty box.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Nonlinear FC » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:45 pm

But I WOULD agree that if the ball is out closer to the bottom corner of the box, towards the endline, that is not an especially dangerous position, so I'd be in favor of shrinking the penalty area by 4 or 5 yards on each side.

What would be interesting is whether that would be the demarcation of where a goalie can handle the ball. Shrinking that area would be an interesting wrinkle, for sure.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Shirley » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:48 pm

Yeah, I was thinking that as well. Balls get to the blue X area many times in games. It's not always a big deal. But when an offense gets possession in the red X area, it seems like goals result a lot. It's very hard to defend both all three of a shot, a square cross, and a pass back to a central attacker.
Totally Kafkaesque

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Post by Rex » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:49 pm

It’s probably measurable. xG is pretty widespread now, can it measure things other than goals? Like the probability of a goal from a crossing position? Red X is pretty dangerous if it has space to cross and isn’t someone who sucks.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Nonlinear FC » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:50 pm

Shirley wrote:
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Yeah, I was thinking that as well. Balls get to the blue X area many times in games. It's not always a big deal. But when an offense gets possession in the red X area, it seems like goals result a lot. It's very hard to defend both all three of a shot, a square cross, and a pass back to a central attacker.
Yeah, a good exercise for the weekend is to note how many times the ball gets to the Blue X and the attacking team pretty much resets, or just dumps it out wide. Typically there are going to be 4 or 5 defenders stopping the ball and clogging up passing lanes.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:51 pm

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent, but I thought it was direct goal-scoring position versus dangerous position. I would think the blue X would be a more frequent foot-to-goal area than red X? Like in the example that made me write this, KDB could have crossed or theoretically could have cut back inside, but his position at the time of the foul wasn't dangerous without another City player in support.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by rass » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:23 am

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by rass » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 am

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by rass » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:25 pm

Exciting but ultimately disappointing bit of hate-watching today.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:54 am

I guess what we’re learning most about soccer in the VAR era is that people touch the ball with their hands a lot.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:56 am

Oh man please broadcast Jose’s press conference to the entire world

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Nonlinear FC » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:55 pm

I'll tell you another fun team I'm watching because of a TV series is Leeds.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by wlu_lax6 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:33 am

Nonlinear FC wrote:
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I'll tell you another fun team I'm watching because of a TV series is Leeds.

6 points from 9.
Yeah they are fun. Attacking football, very likeable cast of characters...plus Jack Harrison, US Prep school instead of Man U Academy and a year at Wake Forrest.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by tennbengal » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:39 am

Co-sign the above. They've been tremendous fun to watch already.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:57 am

I'm just surprised they are doing so well with very little addition from the team that got promoted. I mean, they took care of business last season, but I thought they'd need more up top. But Bamford is proving a lot folks wrong so far.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:39 am

Anyone familiar enough with Ruben Dias to convince me his profile doesn't just sound like "Otamendi but younger so he could evolve out of the aggressive mistakes"?
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:17 pm

I assume everyone watching the match beat me to the Dierrhea jokes.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Pruitt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:28 pm

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I assume everyone watching the match beat me to the Dierrhea jokes.
Been making that joke for years... now it finally makes sense.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Pruitt » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:37 pm

WTF Spurs?!

On a transfer rampage.

Spurs fans have been screaming for 3 years that the team needs another striker...

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Sabo » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:54 pm

They signed Clippy?

What a shit signing.
Mallards rule.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Baloney » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:27 am

Nice looking day on Murkeyside, Everton one up

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:19 am

NBC's fake noise guy needs to work in some Bronx cheers anytime Pickford does something right.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by DaveInSeattle » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:25 am

Rex wrote:
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NBC's fake noise guy needs to work in some Bronx cheers anytime Pickford does something right.
Everton looks...good?

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Sabo » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:01 am

Fuck Erik Lamela forever. Fucking disgraceful.

ETA: Regardless of Lamela’s bullshit, Man U’s defense is pathetic.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by rass » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:43 am

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by govmentchedda » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:21 pm

Woodward out, please.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by DaveInSeattle » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:33 pm

Sabo wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:01 am
ETA: Regardless of Lamela’s bullshit, Man U’s defense is pathetic.
"Shambolic" is one of my favorite announcer words.

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by govmentchedda » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:35 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:33 pm
Sabo wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:01 am
ETA: Regardless of Lamela’s bullshit, Man U’s defense is pathetic.
"Shambolic" is one of my favorite announcer words.
It's great. I like Talisman as well.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:58 pm

What got into the soccer today?

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Sabo » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:32 pm

2020 is so freaking weird.
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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:36 pm

Of course the game I chose to watch was Wolves v Fulham

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by Rex » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:44 pm

Villa starting to look like a real challenger to Everton

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by DaveInSeattle » Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:33 pm

Rex wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:58 pm
What got into the soccer today?
Good lord Liverpool. What in the hell....

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Re: EPL 2020/21

Post by mister d » Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:49 pm

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