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Post by Pruitt » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:09 am

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Post by A_B » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 am

Well, when Joe Thomas was playing, it looked like he was the only one blocking a lot of the time, so this was prescient. Joe handled his assignment.
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Post by Pruitt » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:53 am

Groza put a hell of an arc on that kick.
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Post by The Sybian » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:02 am

And why does it say quarterback? Who is the target audience for this, Browns fans? Giants fans? Fans of FG attempts?
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Post by Rex » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 am

Back in the day where holding for place kicks was the quarterback's most important job

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Post by Gunpowder » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11 am

Jamain Stephens' (former Steelers first round draft pick/mega bust) son died today from corona. With all of these 330+ lb NFL linemen, the NFL has got to be petrified of this happening.
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Post by tennbengal » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:26 pm

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Post by rass » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:07 pm

Burrow looks thrilled. O/U on seasons before he forces his way out?
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Post by Sabo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:08 pm

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Post by tennbengal » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm

Sabo wrote:
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That's a great mustache.
It truly is.

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 pm

tennbengal wrote:
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Awesome, thanks to Gio:
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Post by HaulCitgo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:55 pm

Has to be wondering how it took him so long to get to this look. Outstanding. Definitely jealous and my mustache is creeping onto my lower lip these days.

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 pm

Previously, I wondered the best kind of thread to start for this post (wasn't sure if we would rely on the usual weekly threads or not), but, I'll just put it here.


Despite trimming down their number of tight ends from ten to five, the Bears are stupid. All this optimism coming into the season, but here's what I see/other have pointed out:

Mike Clay of ESPN ranks their offensive position groups thusly: QB - 32nd, RB - 31st, WR - 25th, TE - 16th, OL - 23rd. This all seems right to me. Trubisky/Foles - yep. The injured David Montgomery, the misused Tarik Cohen, and the positionally-adjusted Cordarrelle Patterson at running back. Sure. The offensive line has two good players. Unfortunately, I think they're still going to use five of them at a time.

And the tight ends...

The team and media keep acting like tight ends make the Andy Reid/Doug Pederson offense go and Matt Nagy's scheme is a knock-off of it. If you look at the recent history of those two coaches, though, it’s actually one top-end tight end. Travis Kelce's five seasons as a full-time starter/Pro Bowler (KC has been 10-6 or better in each) have him averaging 88 receptions (on 126 targets) for 1,121 yards and seven TDs. In his four years as a starter under Doug Pederson (just three Pro Bowl appearances), Zach Ertz has led the team in receptions, yards and TDs, save for 2017, when his 8 TDs tied Nelson Agholor and finished one behind Alshon Jeffery. In those four seasons, Ertz missed five games, but averaged 89 receptions (on 127 targets) for 930 yards and seven TDs.

Meanwhile, all the hopes are pinned on a nearly-34-year-old Jimmy Graham and rookie Cole Kmet. If Graham came to the team from 2014, it would make sense. In the four years in New Orleans where Graham was All-World, he averaged 89 receptions (on 138 targets) for 1,099 yards and 12 TDs. Of course, there have been five seasons since then and Graham averaged 53 receptions (on 82 targets) for 626 yards and 5 TDs. His receptions have dropped each of the last four seasons and he has topped out at 636 yards in his last three campaigns. And now, two years for $16 million, although to be fair, only one year and $9 million is guaranteed. Kmet also played baseball in college, so he's focusing on football alone for the first time in his athletic career.

And on defense, Robert Quinn got $70 million over five years (two for $30, in reality) after his first double-digit sack season in five years. He's 30 years old. Eddie Goldman, their starting nose tackle, opted out. Rookie starting cornerback. More kicker stupidity this offseason.

I'm sure I've left out stuff, but...

Really hard to see Matt Nagy landing as an offensive coordinator after he gets fired. He'll have to be a QB coach first, then move up. And the defense was worse last year under Chuck Pagano than under Vic Fangio. Ryan Pace, the GM, said his plan was to draft a quarterback every year. Pace has run six drafts since being hired in Chicago and drafted one quarterback, trading up for Mitchell Trubisky.

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Post by tennbengal » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:45 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 pm
tennbengal wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:26 pm
Awesome, thanks to Gio:
He should have been permitted, nay, REQUIRED, to give the "Isaac from The Love Boat" finger guns in that photo.
Agreed.

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Post by Gunpowder » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:07 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 pm
Previously, I wondered the best kind of thread to start for this post (wasn't sure if we would rely on the usual weekly threads or not), but, I'll just put it here.


Despite trimming down their number of tight ends from ten to five, the Bears are stupid. All this optimism coming into the season, but here's what I see/other have pointed out:

Mike Clay of ESPN ranks their offensive position groups thusly: QB - 32nd, RB - 31st, WR - 25th, TE - 16th, OL - 23rd. This all seems right to me. Trubisky/Foles - yep. The injured David Montgomery, the misused Tarik Cohen, and the positionally-adjusted Cordarrelle Patterson at running back. Sure. The offensive line has two good players. Unfortunately, I think they're still going to use five of them at a time.

And the tight ends...

The team and media keep acting like tight ends make the Andy Reid/Doug Pederson offense go and Matt Nagy's scheme is a knock-off of it. If you look at the recent history of those two coaches, though, it’s actually one top-end tight end. Travis Kelce's five seasons as a full-time starter/Pro Bowler (KC has been 10-6 or better in each) have him averaging 88 receptions (on 126 targets) for 1,121 yards and seven TDs. In his four years as a starter under Doug Pederson (just three Pro Bowl appearances), Zach Ertz has led the team in receptions, yards and TDs, save for 2017, when his 8 TDs tied Nelson Agholor and finished one behind Alshon Jeffery. In those four seasons, Ertz missed five games, but averaged 89 receptions (on 127 targets) for 930 yards and seven TDs.

Meanwhile, all the hopes are pinned on a nearly-34-year-old Jimmy Graham and rookie Cole Kmet. If Graham came to the team from 2014, it would make sense. In the four years in New Orleans where Graham was All-World, he averaged 89 receptions (on 138 targets) for 1,099 yards and 12 TDs. Of course, there have been five seasons since then and Graham averaged 53 receptions (on 82 targets) for 626 yards and 5 TDs. His receptions have dropped each of the last four seasons and he has topped out at 636 yards in his last three campaigns. And now, two years for $16 million, although to be fair, only one year and $9 million is guaranteed. Kmet also played baseball in college, so he's focusing on football alone for the first time in his athletic career.

And on defense, Robert Quinn got $70 million over five years (two for $30, in reality) after his first double-digit sack season in five years. He's 30 years old. Eddie Goldman, their starting nose tackle, opted out. Rookie starting cornerback. More kicker stupidity this offseason.

I'm sure I've left out stuff, but...

Really hard to see Matt Nagy landing as an offensive coordinator after he gets fired. He'll have to be a QB coach first, then move up. And the defense was worse last year under Chuck Pagano than under Vic Fangio. Ryan Pace, the GM, said his plan was to draft a quarterback every year. Pace has run six drafts since being hired in Chicago and drafted one quarterback, trading up for Mitchell Trubisky.

The housecleaning can't come soon enough.

By my calculations, the Bears face the worst defenses this year (by a wide margin). It's gonna get an extension for Trubisky.

How Pace still has a job baffles me.
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Post by A_B » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11 pm

Falcons up 29-9 on Dolphins late.



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Post by DSafetyGuy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:40 am

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Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:07 pm
By my calculations, the Bears face the worst defenses this year (by a wide margin). It's gonna get an extension for Trubisky.

How Pace still has a job baffles me.
You're not helping. But, I still think he's not going to be good enough, particularly with the line in front of him.
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Post by Giff » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:50 am

Cooks being out the first game is the most predictable development of week 1.
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Post by brian » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:08 pm

This is fascinating to me. Maybe people are taking the pandemic more seriously than I thought?


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Post by tennbengal » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:15 pm

brian wrote:
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This is fascinating to me. Maybe people are taking the pandemic more seriously than I thought?

I feel like by and large people are. The exceptions make the news cycles and create a bigger impression of non-compliance than may be reality.

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Post by Ryan » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:22 pm

I had zero idea fans were allowed at some stadiums until now
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Post by mister d » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:23 pm

I'm sure a solid portion of the sellers of those 1,000 tickets are sitting at home screaming they should be allowed to do all these things they're choosing not to do.
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Post by sancarlos » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:29 pm

Come for the football!

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Post by A_B » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:55 pm

“I went to the first nfl game of the 2020-21 season and all I got was this lousy virus”
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Post by sancarlos » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:47 pm

I kind of hoped we wouldn’t have another Baker Mayfield advertising campaign on the NFL games this season.
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Post by A_B » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:48 pm

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I kind of hoped we wouldn’t have another Baker Mayfield advertising campaign on the NFL games this season.
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Post by degenerasian » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:25 pm

Just what the Chiefs need, a running game.
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Post by Pruitt » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:06 pm

The Texans O-Line is garbage.
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Post by degenerasian » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:11 pm

Is there anyone good in the AFC besides KC? Who's 2nd? Buffalo?

NFC seems stacked with the rest of the contenders.
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Post by mister d » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:32 pm

If ESPN is acknowledging fans booing ... player unity? ... that seems like a bit of a statement, no?
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mister d wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:32 pm
If ESPN is acknowledging fans booing ... player unity? ... that seems like a bit of a statement, no?
Definitely you could hear the boos when watching live.
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degenerasian wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:11 pm
Is there anyone good in the AFC besides KC? Who's 2nd? Buffalo?

NFC seems stacked with the rest of the contenders.
Bills fans get very uncomfortable reading things like that...

The Ravens at the top, Steelers, Bills, Titans and maybe the Colts?
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Pruitt wrote:
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degenerasian wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:11 pm
Is there anyone good in the AFC besides KC? Who's 2nd? Buffalo?

NFC seems stacked with the rest of the contenders.
Bills fans get very uncomfortable reading things like that...

The Ravens at the top, Steelers, Bills, Titans and maybe the Colts?
If Cam is anything like what he was pre-injuries, Patriots will be better than at least a few of those team. And I don’t even mean 2015 MVP level. The level he played at in 2017 and early 2018 is good enough to be the best QB in the AFC East.

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mister d wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:32 pm
If ESPN is acknowledging fans booing ... player unity? ... that seems like a bit of a statement, no?
That was something... My wife was watching, and she was shocked. She was asking how anyone could boo unity. I told her it's because Trump tells them too. She was all, "but they are football fans, and they are booing the players' calling for unity among races." Yup. I started to explain the backlash against the NBA players, but she was glazing over. Yes, we are that fucking divided that the few die hard fans who will go to a stadium during a pandemic will boo the players symbolically calling for racial unity.
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Post by A_B » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:37 am

The Sybian wrote:
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:32 pm
If ESPN is acknowledging fans booing ... player unity? ... that seems like a bit of a statement, no?
That was something... My wife was watching, and she was shocked. She was asking how anyone could boo unity. I told her it's because Trump tells them too. She was all, "but they are football fans, and they are booing the players' calling for unity among races." Yup. I started to explain the backlash against the NBA players, but she was glazing over. Yes, we are that fucking divided that the few die hard fans who will go to a stadium during a pandemic will boo the players symbolically calling for racial unity.
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Post by Joe K » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:55 am

I think the scoreboard had a message stating that the teams were united against racism and police brutality (among other things). I’d guess that a not insignificant percentage of NFL fans thinks that racism is dead and that there’s literally no such thing as police brutality. Last time I went to an NFL game (in NJ) a drunk-ass fan ran on the field and some Ted Cruz lookalike in my section took that as an opportunity to lecture anyone within earshot about how this was why we needed to support the police.

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Post by mister d » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:59 am

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Post by Johnnie » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:28 am

And you could hear the booing with a small crowd too. A packed stadium would've been even more embarrassing.
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Post by duff » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:37 am

Even more reason I have given less than two fucks about football for the past three or four years.
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