Do You ... You Know ... Want "It" to Happen?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:44 pm

The day after the election - yes. If he suffers, then I hope it is public enough to show his supporters that the virus is indeed, kind of a big deal.

I tested negative for sympathy.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:44 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:44 pm The day after the election - yes. If he suffers, then I hope it is public enough to show his supporters that the virus is indeed, kind of a big deal.

I tested negative for sympathy.

This, all the way through.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:48 pm

No! Of course not! That would be terr-

NOT EVEN A QUESTION. YES.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:57 pm

Not til the day after election day.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:59 pm

Feels like I didn't ask the question the right way.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:04 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:59 pm Feels like I didn't ask the question the right way.

I agree with TB and SC but that's why I said "strategic no". Him and Limbaugh on the same day would be glorious.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:09 pm

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:10 pm

Professor of emergency medicine at Columbia.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:15 pm

I want to have it occur after the election, just so he has to feel the sting of losing royally.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:22 pm

They waited until after the markets closed to announce they're moving him to Walter Reed. It's gonna happen, you guys.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:24 pm

i have gone nearly full dark on politics etc for nearly 4 years and yet i just had to jump in - i could give a shit about that fatevilmotherfucker - hard yes for this and would stuff the goddamn ballot box.

plus now that i work for the gov i'd get a day off so big win.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:26 pm

Yup. Not a doubt in my mind.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:28 pm

Just need his big, wet, bloated body to hang on close to death for four more weeks and then kick it when the polls close on the West Coast. If this happens, I'll re-think my stance on God.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:36 pm

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:24 pm i
plus now that i work for the gov

OMG, MaxWebster is part of the Deep State!

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:37 pm

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm

Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:47 pm

Never had a president die in office for almost all of our lives (except for hdo).

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:53 pm

"Strategic No" seems like "Yes, but with Maximum Effect".

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:55 pm

Forgetting anything having to do with the election (which is hard because of how inconsequential it is), it would Trump's luck to die in office, which will restore his reputation in the eyes of way, way, way too many people who should know better.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:56 pm

I don't exactly wish it to happen, but if I'm being completely honest there is a bit of excitement in the news. After 4 years of his incessant bullshit, there is some feeling of justice if COVID does him in. What drives me crazy is the brazen criminality, cheating and violating all norms and rules going unchecked. I'd take much more satisfaction out of a criminal conviction and seeing him rot in a prison cell, but that would likely never happen, so this is the next best thing. A heart attack or other natural cause would leave me feeling a lack of justice, but his handling of COVID, lies and disinformation campaign would be sweet justice. Imagine the legacy, a clip of him making fun of Biden for wearing a mask while he was in contact with the people he likely contracted the virus from. Seeing that debate clip linked to his legacy forever would be fitting.

OTOH, I start weighing the political strategic aspects. What happens to the ballots if it happens? Pence gets Trumps votes? Do Trump supporters come out for Pence? They'd have to run a massive effort of voting for Trump posthumously, but would his cult care? Would Pence pardon the kids? I do feel like the dark cloud covering politics for the past 4 years would be lifted. It'd also be nice to go into election day without the sitting President openly calling the integrity of the election into question and calling on his supporters to commit the felony of voter intimidation. It'd be nice to get the rioting over before the election.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:06 pm

One positive of Trump dying in the next few weeks is that if Biden wins, you can already book Donald Trump Jr. as the 2024 GOP presidential candidate. The Trump cult isn't gonna move to Pence in that case, it will look to the next generation.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:13 pm

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:15 pm

brian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:06 pm One positive of Trump dying in the next few weeks is that if Biden wins, you can already book Donald Trump Jr. as the 2024 GOP presidential candidate. The Trump cult isn't gonna move to Pence in that case, it will look to the next generation.

Which brings up the next question. If Trump dies and Pence is the R candidate, does he de-emphasize anything that Trump emphasized? Or, emphasize anything that Trump did not? In other words, if he only has a few weeks to campaign as the candidate, does he change any tactic or strategy?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:17 pm

He acts like Trump never happened and moved forward for America.

Post by **brian** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:20 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:17 pm He acts like Trump never happened and moved forward for America.

I agree but the risk is you could lose some of the Trump Cult by moving too far away.

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:28 pm

I want to see it happen. Embrace the chaos. Roll the dice. Im here for all of it comedically. I was born for this moment in history.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.

This is where I am. Just wish I was a creative Canadian.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:15 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:56 pmOTOH, I start weighing the political strategic aspects. What happens to the ballots if it happens? Pence gets Trumps votes? Do Trump supporters come out for Pence? They'd have to run a massive effort of voting for Trump posthumously, but would his cult care? Would Pence pardon the kids? I do feel like the dark cloud covering politics for the past 4 years would be lifted. It'd also be nice to go into election day without the sitting President openly calling the integrity of the election into question and calling on his supporters to commit the felony of voter intimidation. It'd be nice to get the rioting over before the election.

I'm pretty sure that if Trump dies before the electoral college votes in mid-December, any of his electors who are selected on November 3 will get to vote for whomever they want. Presumably the Republican Party would agree on his successor before then, and the Trump electors would fall in line to vote for that person. Pence is a logical choice, and also they might just choose to settle on Pence rather than have everyone fighting each other.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:29 pm

I don't want it to happen....not that he doesn't deserve it for the way he's handled this whole thing...and not because I'm not the kinda person to wish ill on someone like that.

But I want him to live...and to know that he's gonna lose this election (knock on wood). I want him to know that he's been rejected by the country, and to have to live with that.

ETA: Also...I can't live with 'Trump the Martyr" hagiography that we'll be submitted to if he goes because of this.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:42 pm

For what, like a year or two? And he won't even believe under any circumstances he lost anyway. He's too narcissistic to have a come to Jesus moment mentally.

We were all literally wondering what the contingency was if he refused to concede during the "Red Mirage" on election night.

Now we're like "No, no...he needs to atone. He needs to lose first."

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.
This is where I am. Just wish I was a creative Canadian.

It's not as glamorous a you'd think.

Also, Pence is charismatically impaired. He may have the same beliefs as all of the MAGAts that come to the rallies, but he's not inspiring them to schlep to the polls.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:05 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.
This is where I am. Just wish I was a creative Canadian.
It's not as glamorous a you'd think.

Also, Pence is charismatically impaired. He may have the same beliefs as all of the MAGAts that come to the rallies, but he's not inspiring them to schlep to the polls.

You realize I'm a divorce attorney in Florida, right?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:11 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:05 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.
This is where I am. Just wish I was a creative Canadian.
It's not as glamorous a you'd think.

Also, Pence is charismatically impaired. He may have the same beliefs as all of the MAGAts that come to the rallies, but he's not inspiring them to schlep to the polls.
You realize I'm a divorce attorney in Florida, right?

I did not know that.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:13 pm

Told my oldest daughter that we should go to all the Halloween stores and buy all the fake headstones and place them next to all the Trump 2020 signs in yards around town.

She might have peed a little from hysterical laughter.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:13 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:11 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:05 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
govmentchedda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:33 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm Mom used to say that you should never wish ill on another human being.

But when that human being wishes ill on everyone else, fuck him.

Although it would be neat if he survived with really bad health issues.
This is where I am. Just wish I was a creative Canadian.
It's not as glamorous a you'd think.

Also, Pence is charismatically impaired. He may have the same beliefs as all of the MAGAts that come to the rallies, but he's not inspiring them to schlep to the polls.
You realize I'm a divorce attorney in Florida, right?
I did not know that.

Like, nearly every other profession in every other locale is more desirable.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:15 pm

Yikes!

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:29 pm

duff wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:13 pm Told my oldest daughter that we should go to all the Halloween stores and buy all the fake headstones and place them next to all the Trump 2020 signs in yards around town.

She might have peed a little from hysterical laughter.

That IS a pretty inspired idea!

Square Rob · Post by **Square Rob** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:26 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:29 pm I don't want it to happen....not that he doesn't deserve it for the way he's handled this whole thing...and not because I'm not the kinda person to wish ill on someone like that.

But I want him to live...and to know that he's gonna lose this election (knock on wood). I want him to know that he's been rejected by the country, and to have to live with that.

ETA: Also...I can't live with 'Trump the Martyr" hagiography that we'll be submitted to if he goes because of this.

This is known as the ‘vindictive no’ poll vote. This is absolutely where I sit. Told my wife I want him to suffer, recover, and then be faced directly with the reality of his crushing defeat and failure.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 pm

I’m the no. But what bob just described is part of it. I don’t wish death upon anyone but I would really like to see him have to answer for the crimes.

You know ... the thing that could happen ...