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So the MIckey Tettleton reference in the COVID thread got me thinking...are there players on you always think of being on "Your team" even though most people would never primarily associate them with your team.

For me this really does tie to when I actually paid close attention to the Orioles (mid/late 80s).

- Mickey Tettleton
- Fred Lynn
- Ray Knight
- Steve Finley
- Jose Mesa ---which will always be Joe Table
- Alan Wiggins
- Phil Bradley
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For me it's Al MacInnis. I think around the league, and with you guys, he's a St. Louis Blue. For me he's a Calgary Flame, won the Conn Smythe here.

Others might be Joe Nieuwendyk. Gary Roberts, Gary Suter.
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Willie McGee
Fred McGriff
Bob Tewksbury
Jose Rijo
Doug Drabek
Al Leiter

and of course

Jay Buhner
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Wade Boggs
Roger Clemens
Johnny Damon
Kevin Youkilis
Jacoby Ellsbury
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Ken Griffey Jr.
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:26 pm Wade Boggs
Roger Clemens
Johnny Damon
Kevin Youkilis
Jacoby Ellsbury
In the right company, Doc and Darryl are good answers in this vein, too.
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degenerasian wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:57 am For me it's Al MacInnis. I think around the league, and with you guys, he's a St. Louis Blue. For me he's a Calgary Flame, won the Conn Smythe here.

Others might be Joe Nieuwendyk. Gary Roberts, Gary Suter.
Those guys are all Flames in my mind. I looked at their career stats, and I'm absolutely shocked at how long all of those guys played. I stopped closely following hockey in 94-95, and completely fell off in 98, and it seems like all those guys left the Flames when I stopped following. I remember Al going to the Blues, and I would have guessed he played 2 or 3 years there, can't believe he had 10 years in St. Louis.
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wtf i literally didn't believe you when you wrote 10 yrs! - when degen wrote that at first i was like "oh yeah...i guess i do remember him briefly with the Blues..." i would have said 2-3 years maybe, shit.

sad when you can recall more about ~1985-86 NHL than ~2000.
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degenerasian wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:57 am For me it's Al MacInnis. I think around the league, and with you guys, he's a St. Louis Blue. For me he's a Calgary Flame, won the Conn Smythe here.

Others might be Joe Nieuwendyk. Gary Roberts, Gary Suter.
Those guys are all Flames in my mind. I looked at their career stats, and I'm absolutely shocked at how long all of those guys played. I stopped closely following hockey in 94-95, and completely fell off in 98, and it seems like all those guys left the Flames when I stopped following. I remember Al going to the Blues, and I would have guessed he played 2 or 3 years there, can't believe he had 10 years in St. Louis.
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His jersey is retired in St. Louis but not in Calgary. That says more to the fact that the Flames are run by idiots.
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Does Kirk Gibson win this tread?
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Only pride keeps me from submitting Mark Messier's name here.
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Johnny Carwash wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:52 pm Does Kirk Gibson win this tread?
That's a great one.

So many pop into my head, but I feel like I'm missing some great ones. Not sure if Gary Carter and Keith Hernandez count as Mets. I think the mystique of the 86 Mets probably makes them considered more "Mets" than they otherwise would have been. Vinny Testeverde as a Jet. Pierre Turgeon as an Islander, because he played [checks Google] 13 fucking years after leaving the Islanders!?!? And he only played two full seasons with the Isles? Traded to the Isles 8 games into the 91-92 season, then traded to Montreal about half way through the 94-94 season. Good lord. But his best season by far was with the Isles and he won his only Lady Byng that year.
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Wade Boggs
Roger Clemens
Johnny Damon
Kevin Youkilis
Jacoby Ellsbury
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I think I have about the most debatable - Clyde Drexler.
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:02 pm Only pride keeps me from submitting Mark Messier's name here.
You could put half the 94 Cup winning Rangers on this list. I'd especially add Mike Gartner, even though he was traded during the season. He only played 5 of his 20 years for the Rangers. Seriously, how did every NHL star from the 80s and 90s play more than 20 years? I'd think hockey would have a shorter career span.
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Current:
Marc-Andre Fleury

Previously:
Brendan Shanahan (though arguable)
Chris Chelios
Magglio Ordonez
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Giff wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:07 pm I think I have about the most debatable - Clyde Drexler.
100% Blazer to me.

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For me the starkest example is Kenny Lofton. He was a Cub for three glorious months in 2003.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Jamie Moyer, Pete Rose, Pete Incaviglia (I'm guessing most of you guys consider him a Ranger)

Cris Carter, Terrell Owens?, Herschel Walker, Dhani Jones, Jim McMahon, Michael Vick

Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Jerry Stackhouse, Andre Iguoadola

Keith Primeau, Scott Melanby, Brian Boucher, Sergei Bobrovsky
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Alex Rodriguez is a weird one. More years/PAs with the Yankees than everywhere else combined plus a World Series but I think of him as a Mariner first.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:15 pm Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Jamie Moyer, Pete Rose, Pete Incaviglia (I'm guessing most of you guys consider him a Ranger)

Cris Carter, Terrell Owens?, Herschel Walker, Dhani Jones, Jim McMahon, Michael Vick

Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Jerry Stackhouse, Andre Iguoadola

Keith Primeau, Scott Melanby, Brian Boucher, Sergei Bobrovsky
Maybe Owners, I think I'd count Iguodola?, couldn't even tell you where else Boucher played.
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:18 pm Alex Rodriguez is a weird one. More years/PAs with the Yankees than everywhere else combined plus a World Series but I think of him as a Mariner first.
I think of him as a Yankee. (And I was a quasi-Mariners fan when he came up.)
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Ken Griffey, Jr.
Tom Seaver
Kevin Mitchell
Dave Parker
Randy Myers
Buddy Bell
Bo Diaz
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The Sybian wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:08 pm
mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:02 pm Only pride keeps me from submitting Mark Messier's name here.
You could put half the 94 Cup winning Rangers on this list. I'd especially add Mike Gartner, even though he was traded during the season. He only played 5 of his 20 years for the Rangers. Seriously, how did every NHL star from the 80s and 90s play more than 20 years? I'd think hockey would have a shorter career span.
It's normal. Crosby and Ovechkin have played 15 years and show no signs of stopping. Joe Thornton was drafted in 97!
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Ken Griffey, Jr. - Mariners
Tom Seaver - Mets
Kevin Mitchell - Giants
Dave Parker - Pirates
Randy Meyers - *
Buddy Bell - I believe Rangers is right even though I personally think of the Reds
Bo Diaz - Reds

* Myers is a really interesting one. More years elsewhere, especially NY, but he was in the shadows of even other relievers there and his peak notoriety was as a Nasty Boy. I think I go Reds here.
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Red Sox great, Tony Perez
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Oh yeah I'll claim Dave Parker, too.
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How about John Wetteland on the '96 Yankees?

Chili Davis on the '98 and '99 Yankees?

What about Andy Van Slyke in '85 StL before he was shipped to Pittsburgh? Speaking of dumb ass trades...
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Davis is Angels, Van Slyke Pirates and Wetteland prison.
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:50 pm Davis is Angels, Van Slyke Pirates and Wetteland prison.
See I equate Chili to San Fran along with Jeffrey Leonard and Dan Gladden.

Oh Jack Clark was on that '84 SF team too. Of course, they lost 96 games.
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:46 pm Ken Griffey, Jr. - Mariners
Tom Seaver - Mets
Kevin Mitchell - Giants
Dave Parker - Pirates
Randy Meyers - *
Buddy Bell - I believe Rangers is right even though I personally think of the Reds
Bo Diaz - Reds

* Myers is a really interesting one. More years elsewhere, especially NY, but he was in the shadows of even other relievers there and his peak notoriety was as a Nasty Boy. I think I go Reds here.
you think Diaz and Reds first? I think Phillies.

I agree on the others. I was 7 when Seaver came to the Reds and I saw his 3000th K live when I was 11. He will always feel like a "Red" first to me, even though he is clearly team Met for legacy.
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What team comes to mind first for Frank Robinson?

Reds or Orioles?
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tennbengal wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:00 pm What team comes to mind first for Frank Robinson?

Reds or Orioles?
Damn dude. I have to go with the town you won the triple crown. Baltimore.

That trade is worse than Buhner/Phelps.
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EnochRoot wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:03 pm
tennbengal wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:00 pm What team comes to mind first for Frank Robinson?

Reds or Orioles?
Damn dude. I have to go with the town you won the triple crown. Baltimore.

That trade is worse than Buhner/Phelps.
Makes sense. He won the MVP in both leagues, and I think the slight majority of the prime counting stats were in Cincinnati, but, that was why I was curious.
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tennbengal wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:33 pm
Dave Parker
Randy Myers
Buddy Bell
Bo Diaz
I see all of these guys as Reds. As a Mets fan, I'm shocked he played more years with the Mets, and only 2 seasons with the Reds. Really shocked there. The others I knew they played for their previous teams, but I was too young, so knew them as Reds first.

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Hmmm ... Robinson feels like a legit both due to the MVP trivia (but Cincinnati if a decision was necessary).

Chili and the Angels is probably a good example of "where did this guy play when Mister D was a peak fan / baseball card collector".

(Although he has the same number of seasons but more PAs and better stats in California so I'm also correct.)
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I think Giants for Chili Davis. For Tettleton I think Tigers first.
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Kirk Gibson.

Do his heroics in 1988 make everyone think Dodgers as opposed to his longer and more successful time in Detroit?
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mister d wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:26 pm Wade Boggs
Roger Clemens
Johnny Damon
Kevin Youkilis
Jacoby Ellsbury
I think the first one on this list is actually serious.
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