NFL Week 13

[Ryan]

I would also fire the corner who bit on Ruggs's 15-yard dig route

[mister d]

Dumb New England football guy: "Lamar Jackson should be cut."

[The Sybian]

Dumb New England football guy: "Lamar Jackson should be cut."

I've been saying that all season, he is fuck awful. Gets burned badly every game. He bit so hard on Ruggs' stop move. How the fuck can you think they are going to throw a 15 yard pass in the middle of the field with 13 seconds left and no timeouts down 4? Insane! Especially with an incredibly fast receiver.

I've been trying to think of a reason the Cover 0 could have possibly made any sense, because I don't believe they are tanking. The coaches all know they are fired at the end of the season, so what's in it for them to lose? No player (or coach) wants the infamy that comes with being part of an 0-16 team. On the previous drive, the Jets were successful when they blitzed, and gave up yards when they didn't. They had a shockingly impressive goal line stand, and when they blitzed, they got to Carr and forced him to throw early and miss his receivers. The play before the TD, the Jets had 4 DBs on Agholor, and he ran right down the middle of all 4, was wide open, Carr had time, and somehow managed to overthrow it. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, because it's an incredibly dumb call, especially when your CBs are horrendous, but maybe Williams felt they had a better shot with a blitz than actually covering the Raiders receivers?

[mister d]

It was a joke about his name.

[The Sybian]

It was a joke about his name.

My bad. He still sucks.

[Pruitt]

I remember a Browns game from a couple years ago when Williams was the defensive coordinator. He blitzed seemingly on every play and the Tight End constantly shredded the defence. I was in a bar with the Toronto Browns Backers and people were screaming for his head that day.

Just looked up the box score - Browns had 3 sacks and gave up 430 yards in the air. The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and waiting for a different result.

[DSafetyGuy]

While the Chiefs offense can get white hot at a moment’s notice, it feels like they spend a couple drives in a row just dicking around in every game I watched them this year.

Those play calls for the "and goal" set of downs on the drive that ended with their second field goal seemed to be more screwing around than trying to score.

if the offense has a weakness it's interior push -- been that way since Mitch Morse got hurt in 2018

eta: the Chiefs offense outside of the 10 is a lot of "screwing around" that tends to result in scoring!

I will take your word for the problem with interior push because I don't watch the Chiefs a lot, but I don't know there is a need to run one play from a diamond formation and an end around in the same set of downs (I don't remember, but was the play with Mahomes in motion in the backfield part of the same set of downs?). Maybe just a slant to from your rocket-armed QB to your All-World TE? Maybe run that with another option on the same play being your electric WR running a jerk route as the only receiver split on his side of the field? That degree of misdirection and window dressing feels much more like an untalented team desperate to score in a rare opportunity against a great defense instead of what the Chiefs are.

[EdRomero]

While the Chiefs offense can get white hot at a moment’s notice, it feels like they spend a couple drives in a row just dicking around in every game I watched them this year.

Those play calls for the "and goal" set of downs on the drive that ended with their second field goal seemed to be more screwing around than trying to score.

if the offense has a weakness it's interior push -- been that way since Mitch Morse got hurt in 2018

eta: the Chiefs offense outside of the 10 is a lot of "screwing around" that tends to result in scoring!

I will take your word for the problem with interior push because I don't watch the Chiefs a lot, but I don't know there is a need to run one play from a diamond formation and an end around in the same set of downs (I don't remember, but was the play with Mahomes in motion in the backfield part of the same set of downs?). Maybe just a slant to from your rocket-armed QB to your All-World TE? Maybe run that with another option on the same play being your electric WR running a jerk route as the only receiver split on his side of the field? That degree of misdirection and window dressing feels much more like an untalented team desperate to score in a rare opportunity against a great defense instead of what the Chiefs are.

I remember when the Patriot had a good offense, I read something about Belichick calling plays that he they wouldn't normally do to mess up teams' scouting for future game and to make them practice to defend even more. I'm guessing that's what KC is doing.

[rass]

I don’t want to complain too much about bonus football but yuck so far

[rass]

Holy shit Moose Johnston is looking old

[degenerasian]

End of half, I didn't know that the defense could line up illegally.

[Sabo]

Holy shit Moose Johnston is looking old

It's the white hair.

[rass]

7 is throwing the ball too hard??? JFC

[sancarlos]

So, Roberto Duran and Eric Ebron have the same nickname?

[brian]

I like him as a person, but he's a shit TE.

[rass]

Duran could block!

[Gunpowder]

Well it was nice while it lasted

[rass]

Well it was nice while it lasted

Happy to flip the “they’re the worst undefeated team ever” discussion to “they can play like absolute shit and still almost win”. Wish the chefs would lose.

[L-Jam3]

Screw it. I’m rooting for Washington to win the division. Lesser of two evils.

[A_B]

Well it was nice while it lasted

Happy to flip the “they’re the worst undefeated team ever” discussion to “they can play like absolute shit and still almost win”. Wish the chefs would lose.

Well the Steelers still hold the tiebreak, no? Their loss was out of conference.

[Pruitt]

Weirdest thing about this very weird year is that both the Bills and the Browns are 9-3.

[Brontoburglar]

if the offense has a weakness it's interior push -- been that way since Mitch Morse got hurt in 2018

eta: the Chiefs offense outside of the 10 is a lot of "screwing around" that tends to result in scoring!

I will take your word for the problem with interior push because I don't watch the Chiefs a lot, but I don't know there is a need to run one play from a diamond formation and an end around in the same set of downs (I don't remember, but was the play with Mahomes in motion in the backfield part of the same set of downs?). Maybe just a slant to from your rocket-armed QB to your All-World TE? Maybe run that with another option on the same play being your electric WR running a jerk route as the only receiver split on his side of the field? That degree of misdirection and window dressing feels much more like an untalented team desperate to score in a rare opportunity against a great defense instead of what the Chiefs are.

I remember when the Patriot had a good offense, I read something about Belichick calling plays that he they wouldn't normally do to mess up teams' scouting for future game and to make them practice to defend even more. I'm guessing that's what KC is doing.

The Chiefs have run three different plays in three straight games with Mahomes in motion. Along with what Ed said, it's pretty clear that they're wanting teams to feel that they have to defend multiple looks out of that set.

And besides, the conversation around this is way different if Kelce completes the pass to Mahomes in Tampa or runs it in for the TD. Instead, the spector of the red zone streak (seven straight without a TD) colors all of this. They've been extremely creative in the red zone for a long time -- everyone fawned over Rose Bowl Right in the Super Bowl because it worked -- and are continuing to be so. That creativity is just in the midst of a drought right now.

I'll also be frank and say that there's also still the PTSD of what happened the last time Mahomes tried a QB sneak. The Chiefs haven't called one with him since the knee injury and clearly seem reluctant to again for understandable reasons, even if the odds of an injury like that happening again are very low.

[brian]

Hurts starting this week. Yikes.

[L-Jam3]

According to FO, the best Eagles fans could hope for in Wentz is Fucking Matt Cassel.

[duff]

According to FO, the best Eagles fans could hope for in Wentz is Fucking Matt Cassel.

Will Wentz absorb super backup powers while fucking Cassel? Or getting fucked?

[rass]

This was after warming up with the team. His first test of the day was inconclusive, and he tested positive in the retest.

[rass]

Probably not unreasonable?

[mister d]

It’s amazing no one in the media is on them putting people at risk for a game.

[rass]

Glazer *repeatedly* mentioned that Bryant showed up early for warmups so the ravens had no concerns about contact tracing.

[rass]

didn’t see that on the portion of the pregame I saw

Troy and Joe think Dez is emotional right now and may change his mind about being done for the season

[mister d]

[Giff]

7 real minutes in one league (because I didn't read rules) and 28 game seconds away in another league from making the playoffs in both (Tate's TD in week 8 cost me a win). Ugh.

[BSF21]

7 real minutes in one league (because I didn't read rules) and 28 game seconds away in another league from making the playoffs in both (Tate's TD in week 8 cost me a win). Ugh.

My buddy has been spiked on 250$ payouts in consecutive weeks by the Bills in garbage time. Thems the breaks.

[The Sybian]

7 real minutes in one league (because I didn't read rules) and 28 game seconds away in another league from making the playoffs in both (Tate's TD in week 8 cost me a win). Ugh.

You not making the playoffs in D-Safe's league has to be the worst Bad Beat story I've seen in my close to 30 years playing fantasy football. Most points scored and best Breakdown record in a 12 man league, and not making the playoffs. Even worse, 1-10 Sabo knocked both of us out of the playoffs in the final 2 games. Looks like I would have gotten in if I beat Sabo. Moral of the story, Fuck Sabo!