NFL Week 13

[Sabo]

This Browns-Titans game is insane.

[L-Jam3]

This Browns-Titans game is insane.

And the “walking the red carpet” was a great celebration.

[A_B]

Gunpowder’s formula can suck it.

[rass]

Bwashsjdhdbdbjdjd jets

[rass]

Maybe not the best, but maybe the funniest afternoon of football of the season?

[L-Jam3]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

[degenerasian]

[DSafetyGuy]

Maybe not the best, but maybe the funniest afternoon of football of the season?

I certainly was amused by the events of the last 2+ minutes of the Bears-Lions game.

Down 30-20, the Lions score a TD with 2:18 left. On third down, just after the two minute warning, Trubisky is stripped. Lions recover at the 7 and score a TD two plays later. Trubisky starts at the 25 with 1:37 left, benefits form a horse collar tackle on the rest play, and drives Bears down the field. Allen Robinson steps out of bounds a yard shy of the sticks on third down at the DET 20, Montgomery stuffed on next play.

Six straight losses. Bears scored on the first drive, never trailed until inside the final two minutes.

[Pruitt]

Gregg Williams!!!

What a crazy slate of games.

[Ryan]

Scruffy Colt McCoy has big former child star energy

[A_B]

Maybe not the best, but maybe the funniest afternoon of football of the season?

I certainly was amused by the events of the last 2+ minutes of the Bears-Lions game.

Down 30-20, the Lions score a TD with 2:18 left. On third down, just after the two minute warning, Trubisky is stripped. Lions recover at the 7 and score a TD two plays later. Trubisky starts at the 25 with 1:37 left, benefits form a horse collar tackle on the rest play, and drives Bears down the field. Allen Robinson steps out of bounds a yard shy of the sticks on third down at the DET 20, Montgomery stuffed on next play.

Six straight losses. Bears scored on the first drive, never trailed until inside the final two minutes.

I actually wish Matt stafford had been drafted by another organization.

[Rex]

Scruffy Colt McCoy has big former child star energy

I don’t know if I had forgotten what he looked like, or never knew what he looked like.

[Rex]

The Giants are building an NFC East Voltron out of discarded WFTs and Cowboys

[tennbengal]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

They threw the game, right? That's the only thing that explains that.

[EnochRoot]

Looks like the G-Men withstood that 3rd and 4 where McCoy went deep down the sideline, saving the Seahawks from burning one of their timeouts.

I remember watching the Bucs eek out a win vs the Giants several weeks ago thinking they were the best 1-6 team I'd ever seen. But then how'd you know anyway?

[Rex]

It’s certainly possible now that the Giants only need a Week 17 win vs. Dallas to win the NFC East.

I do give the WFTs a real chance tomorrow, but 7 wins would be a big ask for them.

[DSafetyGuy]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

They threw the game, right? That's the only thing that explains that.

That's a popular opinion, but a reasonable number of football media types are saying zero-man coverage and rushing eight is what Williams does in "and long" situations. And he does.

[mister d]

A friend reasonably asked why a lame duck coaching staff would have any interest in aiding a tank.

[Pruitt]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

They threw the game, right? That's the only thing that explains that.

That's a popular opinion, but a reasonable number of football media types are saying zero-man coverage and rushing eight is what Williams does in "and long" situations. And he does.

I've seen that moron coach in Cleveland and Buffalo. Makes Rob Ryan look like Dick LeBeau.

[Rex]

I’m really confused about what just happened there.

It was a touchdown if anyone had complained about it.

[EdRomero]

Tyreek must have assumed it bounced before landing in his hands. Crazy. Not one coach or someone on the sideline said hold on with the punt?

[sancarlos]

Tyreek must have assumed it bounced before landing in his hands. Crazy. Not one coach or someone on the sideline said hold on with the punt?

Im hoping that play is an omen for the game

[L-Jam3]

While the Chiefs offense can get white hot at a moment’s notice, it feels like they spend a couple drives in a row just dicking around in every game I watched them this year.

[DSafetyGuy]

While the Chiefs offense can get white hot at a moment’s notice, it feels like they spend a couple drives in a row just dicking around in every game I watched them this year.

Those play calls for the "and goal" set of downs on the drive that ended with their second field goal seemed to be more screwing around than trying to score.

[tennbengal]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

They threw the game, right? That's the only thing that explains that.

That's a popular opinion, but a reasonable number of football media types are saying zero-man coverage and rushing eight is what Williams does in "and long" situations. And he does.

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[Brontoburglar]

While the Chiefs offense can get white hot at a moment’s notice, it feels like they spend a couple drives in a row just dicking around in every game I watched them this year.

Those play calls for the "and goal" set of downs on the drive that ended with their second field goal seemed to be more screwing around than trying to score.

if the offense has a weakness it's interior push -- been that way since Mitch Morse got hurt in 2018

eta: the Chiefs offense outside of the 10 is a lot of "screwing around" that tends to result in scoring!

[brian]

A friend reasonably asked why a lame duck coaching staff would have any interest in aiding a tank.

There's just no incentive for literally anyone involved to tank. Players are playing for their jobs -- either with the Jets or for a future gig.

You can say it was an unusual decision to send the house on that play and maybe it was but we could probably find at least 100 posts on the Swamp alone bitching about "prevent defense", so you can't really have it both ways.

[EnochRoot]

A friend reasonably asked why a lame duck coaching staff would have any interest in aiding a tank.

There's just no incentive for literally anyone involved to tank. Players are playing for their jobs -- either with the Jets or for a future gig.

You can say it was an unusual decision to send the house on that play and maybe it was but we could probably find at least 100 posts on the Swamp alone bitching about "prevent defense", so you can't really have it both ways.

The bitch about prevent defense defense is usually predicated on at least 60 yards that become too-easily traversed. And rushing 7 guys on a hail mary, while bold, is all shades of stupid.

[Gunpowder]

A friend reasonably asked why a lame duck coaching staff would have any interest in aiding a tank.

There's just no incentive for literally anyone involved to tank. Players are playing for their jobs -- either with the Jets or for a future gig.

You can say it was an unusual decision to send the house on that play and maybe it was but we could probably find at least 100 posts on the Swamp alone bitching about "prevent defense", so you can't really have it both ways.

You're not defending a zero blitz with ten seconds left against a team with no timeouts that can only beat you with a 50+ yard TD by comparing it to running a prevent defense for an entire drive, are you? I'm going to assume you're not.

I didn't agree with the Lions rushing three on that Aaron Rodgers play a few years ago, but this ain't the only alternative. This isn't bringing an extra defender on a final play. Between the blitzers and the guy he had essentially spying the QB, he dropped three guys in a Hail Mary situation. GREGGGG

[Gunpowder]

A friend reasonably asked why a lame duck coaching staff would have any interest in aiding a tank.

There's just no incentive for literally anyone involved to tank. Players are playing for their jobs -- either with the Jets or for a future gig.

You can say it was an unusual decision to send the house on that play and maybe it was but we could probably find at least 100 posts on the Swamp alone bitching about "prevent defense", so you can't really have it both ways.

The bitch about prevent defense defense is usually predicated on at least 60 yards that become too-easily traversed. And rushing 7 guys on a hail mary, while bold, is all shades of stupid.

It's some of the dumbest, Gregg-iest shit I've ever seen. I wouldn't defend that Colts fake punt fiasco by saying "well people say coaches are too conservative on 4th down".

[Gunpowder]

Just saw this, as luck would have it:

1. Mac Jones: 4.6 passes per game of 20-plus yards, 57% completion rate, 26.4 yards per pass, 10-2 TD-INT, 99.9 raw QBR
2. Zach Wilson: 4.3 per game, 69% completion rate, 27.2 yards per pass, 7-0 TD-INT, 99.9 raw QBR
3. Justin Fields: 3.0 per game, 73% completion rate, 27.2 yards per pass, 5-1 TD-INT, 99.9 raw QBR on said passes
4. Kyle Trask: 4.4 per game, 57% completion rate, 19.9 yards per pass, 8-1 TD-INT, 99.5 raw QBR
5. Ian Book: 3.3 per game, 40% completion rate, 15.9 yards per pass, 1-0 TD-INT, 89.0 raw QBR
6. Trevor Lawrence: 4.9 per game, 38% completion rate, 16.1 yards per pass, 5-2 TD-INT, 85.2 raw QBR

Obviously a lot goes in this other than how good the QB is.

Kyle Trask just had to throw it in the vicinity of his TE (who is an insane monster) and it's a completion.

The main issue I can see with Lawrence on these is that if he's going deep, it's determined before the snap. Same with Fields but to a lesser degree. I've only watched a very little bit so far, to be fair.

To Trask's credit, he was 49-of-64 passing for 739 yards and 9 TDs in the two games that Pitts missed after he got knocked out vs. Georgia.

I'm not dismissing Trask, haven't really watched him. Was just commenting on how awesome Pitts is.

[Gunpowder]

You can rough a wide receiver on a reverse when he throws it? That’s a new one.

I guess he's a passer but yeah I get the concerns here. It's almost like those plays where Russell Wilson fake slides or Lamar Jackson acts like he's going to go out of bounds but stops and cuts back inside.

[Gunpowder]

Gunpowder’s formula can suck it.

I'm like 4-9 this week so it sucked a whole bunch of it. Nailed the over on that game though!

The only game I bet was the only game I got right (Green Bay). Lucky me.

[Gunpowder]

Gggggood. Fuck Gggggggregggggggggg.

They threw the game, right? That's the only thing that explains that.

That's a popular opinion, but a reasonable number of football media types are saying zero-man coverage and rushing eight is what Williams does in "and long" situations. And he does.

I agree with this. He went GREGGGGG. Doesn't help that the Dolphins did something similar against the Steelers last year to fuel the tank talk, but Gregg and Gase just inherently tank.

[Gunpowder]

Suddenly the shitty WRs that no QB can play with are wide open for Jalen Hurts...

[BSF21]

Gunpowder’s formula can suck it.

I'm like 4-9 this week so it sucked a whole bunch of it. Nailed the over on that game though!

The only game I bet was the only game I got right (Green Bay). Lucky me.

Rough week all over. Even the top tier teams struggled to cover in most games. I got slaughtered and lost my survivor pick. Rough week.

[tennbengal]

[L-Jam3]

Gggggggreggggggggg's gggggggggggggone.

[Sabo]

Gggggggreggggggggg's gggggggggggggone.

I'm not worried for Gregggggggg. I'm sure plenty of head coaching offers will come his way.

[EdRomero]

That was a really nice play by Carr moving in the pocket and making a great throw. Still a stupid defensive play call.