The Official Mayor Pete/Dept of Transportation thread

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The Official Mayor Pete/Dept of Transportation thread

Post by DaveInSeattle » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:53 am

because who would have thought the Department of Transportation would be such a hot topic?

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wow the topic got transported to another thread
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Just like cross-thread traffic, so hard to get through to you
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Post by brian » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:07 am

This is what will sink the Biden Administration.

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:14 am

And...for the record...I think Mayor Pete will do a decent-to-good job at this gig, because he's the kind of ass-kissing/try-hard who will take it seriously and listen to the right people, and because he totally sees it as a stepping stone to something bigger/better.

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Post by brian » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:11 am

You're all gonna feel pretty stupid when there's like 34 in-air collisions on Jan. 21.

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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:13 am

If only we had someone with a larger bus system experience to prevent it.

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Post by mister d » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:16 am

brian wrote:
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You're all gonna feel pretty stupid when there's like 34 in-air collisions on Jan. 21.
"Oh stop, its his first month on the job. Wait and see how many in-air collisions there are in Q2 before you start complaining."
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Post by Ryan » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:46 am

There are 1,000 issues that Cabinet Departments handle where we need drastic change whether you think it will pass or not. Get better at messaging, hit the ground running and fucking do it. I want the Sec'y of Transportion, for example, to realize and care that this country would benefit greatly from an efficient high-speed rail network and that's not an initiative, then we don't get one. If you also care about that and don't think Pete Buttigieg's track record means this will happen, you are allowed to be skeptical. What the fuck.
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There are 1,000 issues that Cabinet Departments handle where we need drastic change whether you think it will pass or not. Get better at messaging, hit the ground running and fucking do it. I want the Sec'y of Transportion, for example, to realize and care that this country would benefit greatly from an efficient high-speed rail network and that's not an initiative, then we don't get one. If you also care about that and don't think Pete Buttigieg's track record means this will happen, you are allowed to be skeptical. What the fuck.
I’d accept that as a legit complaint. Sec sets the agenda, and if his policy is different than you’d like to see, absolutely legit complaint. But saying he isn’t qualified is a completely different argument.
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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:54 am

If congress approves funding for national high speed rail and it doesn't happen because of Pete, yeah that would suck.

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Post by sancarlos » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:36 pm

We can't even get consensus on high speed rail in the most progressive state in the union. So...
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:25 pm

I’m one of the bigger train fans on here, and I don’t know if a big high-speed rail network is really that great of an idea. I don’t think it makes sense for the West except for a few specific routes. Things are just too far apart out here.
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Re: The Official Mayor Pete/Dept of Transportation thread

Post by Giff » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:59 pm

They've been talking about this for years here to connect Dallas and Houston.
Muh.

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Post by The Sybian » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:59 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:25 pm
I’m one of the bigger train fans on here, and I don’t know if a big high-speed rail network is really that great of an idea. I don’t think it makes sense for the West except for a few specific routes. Things are just too far apart out here.
That's probably true. I'm a fan of Amtrak Acela (as close to a high speed train as we have). If I'm going to Boston or Washington, it's a much better option than flying or driving. When you factor in security and boarding time, the travel time is about the same, but the train drops you off in the middle of the city, and Boston even gives you stops in the city to choose from. It's way more comfortable and convenient, especially when I lived walking distance to an Acela stop. That was the best. I wonder how much of an appetite there is for rail travel in the US. Americans are much more accustomed to driving everywhere in than Europeans and Asians. And even with a high speed train, cross country trips probably aren't going to be worth it, because flying is so much faster.
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Re: The Official Mayor Pete/Dept of Transportation thread

Post by Shirley » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Yeah, high speed rail just really isn't a practical solution for a lot of the US. Out west, everything's too far apart. And in the east, unless you can reuse existing lines, it's just too expensive to put in. They've run a number of studies here in the Triangle (and spent a ton of money studying) and came up with a cost that was WAY out of proportion with the potential benefit.

I'd much rather see us put in major incentives to get to true automated driving and electric vehicles. Then, we could make MUCH more efficient use of the roads we already have.
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Re: The Official Mayor Pete/Dept of Transportation thread

Post by Nonlinear FC » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:05 pm

The Sybian wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:59 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:25 pm
I’m one of the bigger train fans on here, and I don’t know if a big high-speed rail network is really that great of an idea. I don’t think it makes sense for the West except for a few specific routes. Things are just too far apart out here.
That's probably true. I'm a fan of Amtrak Acela (as close to a high speed train as we have). If I'm going to Boston or Washington, it's a much better option than flying or driving. When you factor in security and boarding time, the travel time is about the same, but the train drops you off in the middle of the city, and Boston even gives you stops in the city to choose from. It's way more comfortable and convenient, especially when I lived walking distance to an Acela stop. That was the best. I wonder how much of an appetite there is for rail travel in the US. Americans are much more accustomed to driving everywhere in than Europeans and Asians. And even with a high speed train, cross country trips probably aren't going to be worth it, because flying is so much faster.

I used to have to travel from DC to NYC (and back, of course) for bidness about 4 times a year and I always took the train. Even if it wasn't Acela, I'd rather have taken the train (express version, which skipped multiple stops in Philly and a number of other stops.)

Like you said, once you factor in getting to/from the airport and security, it's almost a wash. And when you factor in the relative comfort/ability to do work, it's a no brainer.
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Post by Ryan » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:19 pm

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Post by Johnnie » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:15 pm

When I was 8 my family moved to California from Boston via Amtrak. Boston to Chicago. Chicago to LA. LA to Salinas. When we moved back to Boston, we did the same thing. As a kid, it was awesome as hell to me. Sure, it wasn't as fast as a plane, but that isn't the point.

As an adult living in Europe, getting to Paris in a few hours from Germany was also pretty awesome.

The fact that cities are far apart is precisely why you want a high speed rail to connect them. At least in my opinion. Sure it'll cost money, but so does everything. The problem people have is that it isn't an immediate dopamine hit that "fixes" anything. It would take a long time.

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Post by duff » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:28 pm

Sure! You have training in logistics with the air force. Served the country. I imagine you would do a fine job. Plus you would only report to one person, so no more insubordination from you!
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Post by TT2.0 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:06 pm

i almost reposted the train joke i made in the other thread but I decided everyone but Chedda just politely ignored it. I was trying to see if it was good enough to try on stage and i'm leaning no. I appreciate you' guys involunatary participation in my makeshift focus group. You will not be compensated.
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Post by Johnnie » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:20 pm

TT2.0 wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:06 pm
i almost reposted the train joke i made in the other thread but I decided everyone but Chedda just politely ignored it. I was trying to see if it was good enough to try on stage and i'm leaning no. I appreciate you' guys involunatary participation in my makeshift focus group. You will not be compensated.
I saw it and liked it. I was just preoccupied trying to argue a very specific point and getting chastised for being hysterical.

It was a nice alternate to the Rhodes Scholar ones.
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Post by duff » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:24 pm

TT2.0 wrote:
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i almost reposted the train joke i made in the other thread but I decided everyone but Chedda just politely ignored it. I was trying to see if it was good enough to try on stage and i'm leaning no. I appreciate you' guys involunatary participation in my makeshift focus group. You will not be compensated.
It is a good one. You should try to incorporate it into your act.
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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:33 pm

Johnnie wrote:
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The fact that cities are far apart is precisely why you want a high speed rail to connect them.
Word. It's still cultural hurdle though.

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Post by mister d » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:47 pm

Ignoring that I’m not even sure the train joke makes sense relative to Pete, it’s pretty simple. This is the 3rd place I’ve seen a variation of it.
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mister d wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:47 pm
Ignoring that I’m not even sure the train joke makes sense relative to Pete, it’s pretty simple. This is the 3rd place I’ve seen a variation of it.
That was also a question. I live in a bubble sometimes and get hit by parallel thoughts
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duff wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:24 pm
TT2.0 wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:06 pm
i almost reposted the train joke i made in the other thread but I decided everyone but Chedda just politely ignored it. I was trying to see if it was good enough to try on stage and i'm leaning no. I appreciate you' guys involunatary participation in my makeshift focus group. You will not be compensated.
It is a good one. You should try to incorporate it into your act.
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Post by brian » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:17 pm

I wasn’t sure if this was true but learned today it is that Mayor Pete will be the first LBGTQ Cabinet member in history which is another good reason to have him be Secretary of Transportation.

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Post by HaulCitgo » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:21 pm

For real? It's a good pick because he's gay? How about knowledge of transportation? Besides almost certainly not the only gay secretary just the first out one.

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Post by brian » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:34 pm

Representation matters. Symbolism matters.

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Post by mister d » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:25 pm

And where are you going to find someone who both has transportation experience AND is a member of the LGBTQ community?
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Post by duff » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:31 pm

With name recognition?

It is all optics.
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mister d wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:47 pm
Ignoring that I’m not even sure the train joke makes sense relative to Pete, it’s pretty simple. This is the 3rd place I’ve seen a variation of it.
I hate the whole idea of the joke, to be honest. I know it's the schtick and all, but just not my jam.
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A_B wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:22 pm
mister d wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:47 pm
Ignoring that I’m not even sure the train joke makes sense relative to Pete, it’s pretty simple. This is the 3rd place I’ve seen a variation of it.
I hate the whole idea of the joke, to be honest. I know it's the schtick and all, but just not my jam.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:35 pm

I'm not, like, upset by the train joke, I just don't think it makes a lot of sense. If running a train was a gay-specific thing, sure... But it's really not.
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Post by mister d » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:13 pm

Right. Like maybe I have different weekends than you guys, but I default to straight with that term.
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