The Swamp

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:18 pm FFS. Doing something like that will lose the Dems 75% of the voters.

Yeah, joking aside this seems like a very terrible idea.

Giff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:26 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:18 pm FFS. Doing something like that will lose the Dems 75% of the voters.

Yeah, joking aside this seems like a very terrible idea.

They tried to do something like this in Utah in the most recent legislative session. It didn't go very far.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:18 pm FFS. Doing something like that will lose the Dems 75% of the voters.

And, make it pretty damned hard for a company to hire a truck driver.

OK, I'm reading more about it and it sounds interesting. Seems less regressive than the current taxes on gas.

Don’t like it? Take the train

sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:30 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:18 pm FFS. Doing something like that will lose the Dems 75% of the voters.

And, make it pretty damned hard for a company to hire a truck driver.

Surely the part about the drivers was a joke?

Giff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:35 pm OK, I'm reading more about it and it sounds interesting. Seems less regressive than the current taxes on gas.

It's probably a great idea in the abstract.

But it's something for a lame-duck Democratic congress and administration to do *after* they've lost, because it will be hated.

Plus, didn't Biden just say that he won't raise taxes on families making less than $400K?

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:50 pmSurely the part about the drivers was a joke?

I thought it was an obvious lame corporatist joke.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:56 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:35 pm OK, I'm reading more about it and it sounds interesting. Seems less regressive than the current taxes on gas.

It's probably a great idea in the abstract.

But it's something for a lame-duck Democratic congress and administration to do *after* they've lost, because it will be hated.

Plus, didn't Biden just say that he won't raise taxes on families making less than $400K?

Assuming it replaces the gas tax, which in some states hasn’t changed in 40 years, it could at least be a more efficient and fair way to distribute the burden. Those electric vehicle pansies would finally pull their weight for one thing.

I've been told that even if people save money or receive greater services, anything that's called a tax is DOA and the country can and should never consider it.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:13 pm I've been told that even if people save money or receive greater services, anything that's called a tax is DOA and the country can and should never consider it.

I'll throw tea right in the middle of I-75 I don't give a fuck, man.

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:14 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:13 pm I've been told that even if people save money or receive greater services, anything that's called a tax is DOA and the country can and should never consider it.

I'll throw tea right in the middle of I-75 I don't give a fuck, man.

Do it on the Sault Ste Marie end, nobody will notice

Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:17 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:14 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:13 pm I've been told that even if people save money or receive greater services, anything that's called a tax is DOA and the country can and should never consider it.

I'll throw tea right in the middle of I-75 I don't give a fuck, man.

Do it on the Sault Ste Marie end, nobody will notice

Hey i was in that game!

Ryan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:09 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:56 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:35 pm OK, I'm reading more about it and it sounds interesting. Seems less regressive than the current taxes on gas.

It's probably a great idea in the abstract.

But it's something for a lame-duck Democratic congress and administration to do *after* they've lost, because it will be hated.

Plus, didn't Biden just say that he won't raise taxes on families making less than $400K?

Assuming it replaces the gas tax, which in some states hasn’t changed in 40 years, it could at least be a more efficient and fair way to distribute the burden. Those electric vehicle pansies would finally pull their weight for one thing.

I agree that in the long run, when electric cars are commonplace, we’ll need VMTs to fund highways. But I don’t think we’re anywhere near that point yet. Plus I think it’s too early to remove one of the incentives to buy electric.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:13 pm I've been told that even if people save money or receive greater services, anything that's called a tax is DOA and the country can and should never consider it.

You’re learning.

Ha. That's actually kinda funny.

“I also again plan to advocate for M4A.

Buh! April Fools! For profit entities must remain in between patients and their medical providers!”

I can't believe this thread has fallen all the way to the bottom of the second page. SMDH.

Anyway ...

Learned today that Sec. Buttigieg is now officially a resident of the great state of Michigan. (He and his husband bought a home in Traverse City and sold their home in South Bend. I was presuming he might soon re-establish residency in Indiana for a possible future run for Congress or the governorship, but given how red of a state it is he might just decide to stay in Michigan and try to succeed Debbie Stabenow in 2024 if she retires.)

A hearty Mazel Tov to the Buttigiegs. Sincerely wishing them a lifetime of happiness with their new kids...



But why are they in a hospital bed?

It’s a stupid photo for sure but presumably the children were born in a hospital.

Another (empty) bed in the hospital is as good/likely a place as any for that shot. If this is (presumably) a few minutes after they were born.

This post has nothing to do with Mayor Pete, but this thread seemed the best place to drop it.

That said, here is a fascinating article about the fucked up state of our ports and the clogs getting products into and through the country. Costs and prices are going through the roof and delivery times are growing ever-longer. This WaPo article (thanks, Pruitt!) is a great exploration of what is causing all this. (I worked in the global transportation industry for most of my life and have been hearing about this issue from old friends all year long - so it was great to read a well-researched piece on the subject.)

Inside America's Broken Supply Chain

NOW is the time to hoard toilet paper.

Half kidding, but this doesn't look good. At the very least, Christmas shop now though.

You could cut off my hand and try to use it to press play and it would still somehow resist.

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:40 am You could cut off my hand and try to use it to press play and it would still somehow resist.

Just out of curiosity (and there's not really a "right" or "wrong" answer here I don't think), but would you watch a similar documentary about Bernie or someone like AOC?

No, but for a different reason. Or for one reason rather than two (the other being I read, not watch).

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:27 pm NOW is the time to hoard toilet paper.

Half kidding, but this doesn't look good. At the very least, Christmas shop now though.

https://us.whogivesacrap.org/

When is infrastructure week?

Needed more support. No Steely McBeams lying around?

Disclaimer: At the time of posting this pic, it is believed there were 3 or 4 cars on the bridge and no serious injuries.

Seems like a good time for Biden to talk about infrastructure spending.

Fucking Republicans.

EnochRoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:52 am Seems like a good time for Biden to talk about infrastructure spending.

Fucking Republicans.

How long before someone in the FoxNews extended universe says the bridge collapse was a 'false flag' operation? It's probably already happened.

If any of those fuckheads want to blame the Dems for this, ask them how many bridges Trump's multiple Infrastructure Weeks ended up repairing. Fucking nubs.

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:32 amHow long before someone in the FoxNews extended universe says the bridge collapse was a 'false flag' operation? It's probably already happened.

And if this were two years ago, its 100% "an obvious assassination attempt in a liberal US city".

Just in case anyone still thinks this was anything more than a reward for screwing over Bernie...

- "Ever since I was a child, I've loved transportation."

- "Oh, perfect. Let's put you in charge of this massively important thing then."

I can't.