2020-2021 NHL Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2020-2021 NHL Regular Season Thread

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Holy shit, that's great.
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Post by sancarlos » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:54 pm

I also have a little bottle of absinthe! Adds a little je ne sais quoi to certain cocktails.
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Re: 2020-2021 NHL Regular Season Thread

Post by bapo! » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:06 pm

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I also have a little bottle of absinthe! Adds a little je ne sais quoi to certain cocktails.
I hadn't been to a liquor store in probably 10 or 12 years. But I didn't feel like buying another case of IPAs, so I just jumped straight in and bought absinthe. It's intense. Like melting a pack of spearmint gum in a sauce pan, and then trying to drink it.

I don't think I'm going to stick with this Oilers game much longer. Down 3-0. McDavid just cheap-shotted a guy and took a very uncharacteristic bad penalty. There will be no puck-hugging in the bapo residence tonight.

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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:09 pm

Sweet boy Hedman just got helped off the ice! Panic mode, engaged!
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:10 pm

There goes the season.
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:18 pm

Back on the ice! Must've gotten a Miyagi massage.
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Post by bapo! » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:24 pm

That was quite a rollercoaster of posts, chedda. You need to calm down. Drink some absinthe.

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It's been a day.
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Post by brian » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:03 pm

Don’t look now but Buffalo is up 2-0.

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Post by L-Jam3 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:00 pm

The Flyers should be fired. I don’t just mean Vigneault or the GM or the captain. I mean the whole fucking team.
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Post by mister d » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:10 pm

Not a good sign that Hart is falling on the wrong side of the “is this HoF goalie good enough to carry AV” line.
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Post by mister d » Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:07 pm

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VGK appears to have fleeced the Devils in that Gusev trade, which delights and surprises me. VGK get the Devils 2nd rounder this year and it looks to be a high one, so they should have two picks in the top 40.
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Post by bapo! » Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:49 pm

‡ McDavid was fined $5K for his elbow on Koktaniemi earlier this week. I would have been happier with a 1- or 2-game suspension. Dirty play.

‡ Now that the college season is wrapping up, some of the top players are signing with their NHL/AHL teams. Cole Caufield, Matt Boldy, Alex Newhook, Spencer Knight, Cam York, etc. Curious to see how Caufield plays in the pros. I thought that Dylan Holloway might be able to jump right into Edmonton's line-up, but he has a broken thumb.

‡ I checked in on the WHL yesterday to see what's going on. Connor Bedard is leading the league in scoring. Bedard is the latest Canadian kid to be granted exceptional status, so he's playing in the WHL at age 15. He has 19 points in his first 10 games. Yeah, it's a small sample size, but this is insanity. It's time to start tanking for 2023.

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Post by brian » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:12 pm

I wouldn't write off Gusev yet either. It's not always a smooth transition for guys who have played in the KHL for as long as he has. If I were a team like Detroit or Buffalo, I'd absolutely claim him and take a chance. I'm surprised the Devils even went as far to expose him to waivers. I'm not sure he's been THAT bad though I'm guessing it more about freeing cap space.

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Post by BSF21 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:20 pm

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‡ McDavid was fined $5K for his elbow on Koktaniemi earlier this week. I would have been happier with a 1- or 2-game suspension. Dirty play.
I saw a breakdown that alleged that McDavid made 81$ for that elbow.

If they aren't going to suspend people for this shit, they should be fire proportionally to their pay. Maybe that's a deterrent. I don't care who the fuck it is, what McDavid did is inexcusable.
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Post by govmentchedda » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:41 pm

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I wouldn't write off Gusev yet either. It's not always a smooth transition for guys who have played in the KHL for as long as he has. If I were a team like Detroit or Buffalo, I'd absolutely claim him and take a chance. I'm surprised the Devils even went as far to expose him to waivers. I'm not sure he's been THAT bad though I'm guessing it more about freeing cap space.
Stevie Y drafted him.
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Post by brian » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:50 pm

I didn't realize his contract was up at the end of this year. I had thought he had signed a longer term deal. So no reason for Buffalo or Detroit to claim him really. Still, it's a bit of a perplexing move though I guess it doesn't really matter much since NJ's season is in the tank and they apparently have no interest in re-signing him (and the trade market would appear to be limited). Still might be an opportunity there for a team with a little cap space at the outside of a playoff run (like say, LA or Chicago) that might be able to benefit if Gusev just needs a change of scenery. Almost no downside if you have the cap space.

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Re: 2020-2021 NHL Regular Season Thread

Post by bapo! » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:36 pm

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‡ McDavid was fined $5K for his elbow on Koktaniemi earlier this week. I would have been happier with a 1- or 2-game suspension. Dirty play.
I saw a breakdown that alleged that McDavid made 81$ for that elbow.

If they aren't going to suspend people for this shit, they should be fire proportionally to their pay. Maybe that's a deterrent. I don't care who the fuck it is, what McDavid did is inexcusable.
McDavid skated out of his way to make that hit. I don't want to make it sound like the worst play ever, but it was dumb and unnecessary. A small fine is pointless.

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Re: 2020-2021 NHL Regular Season Thread

Post by degenerasian » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:50 pm

Sabres...



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Post by MaxWebster » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:52 am

i mean...who cares, but was that not a clear slash against Skinner?

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Post by mister d » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:57 am

I think Hajek gets officiated on a curve.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:43 pm

Caps sweep NJ for the season. 8 wins against the Devils.

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:08 am

Wings won a regular season game in Tampa yesterday for the first time in 10+ years (they had won there twice in the first round of the 2015 postseason, but lost that series, including Game 7 on the road). Glad they ended that streak.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:24 am

So for those of us who are not so knowledgeable about hockey tactics...I could use some education. Caps are playing man-to-man defense. This is a change from the previous coach and looks very different from most games I watch. Is man-to-man common and I just never noticed it or are the Caps doing something very different? I feel like man-to-man was something that Gretzky abused in his Oilers days (it is very noticeable in the old highlights as Gretzky is just pumping in goals).


Does it really matter? Guessing most goals come from transition as they enter the zone and power plays and what this really is about is board battles for puck control.

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Post by mister d » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:30 am

When I think man-to-man, I think Alain Vigneault and then I think about four defenders below the blue line or along the same boards or something. It just seems too hard to be worthwhile because the lost players and mistakes always seem to lead to wide open chances.
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Post by sancarlos » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:33 pm

I wonder if they've considered just shutting down the Canucks for the rest of the season.

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Post by mister d » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm

I really like the devils getting a 1st rather than the standard 2nd + 4th + B prospect that package might usually returns.
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Post by degenerasian » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:30 pm

So basically a 1st round pick, conditional 4th and two AHL contracts. Definitely a buyers market this year. Pageau went for a 1st and a 2nd last year and a conditional 3rd.
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Post by rass » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:26 pm

With Palmieri gone everyone left on the Devils looks like they’re younger than my kids.
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Post by brian » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:47 am

MAF tied Ed Belfour in career wins (4th all-time) and Patrick Roy in shutouts (15th all-time) yesterday.

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Post by Ryan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:49 am

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Post by DSafetyGuy » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:47 pm

Did not expect Mantha to get traded.

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Post by Nonlinear FC » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:56 pm

Huh. Welp.

Think the Caps might be eating it a little on that one giving up those picks.

That said, that's a pretty massive upgrade in the top six rotation. Vrana wasn't likely to get signed (he's a UFA), so I don't mind that one. And Panik is a nothingburger, who is pretty much replaced by picking up Raffl today.

I also like that it isn't a rental, with Mantha still sitting on contract for another 2-3 years.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:11 pm

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Huh. Welp.

Think the Caps might be eating it a little on that one giving up those picks.

That said, that's a pretty massive upgrade in the top six rotation. Vrana wasn't likely to get signed (he's a UFA), so I don't mind that one. And Panik is a nothingburger, who is pretty much replaced by picking up Raffl today.

I also like that it isn't a rental, with Mantha still sitting on contract for another 2-3 years.
ETA - Correction on Vrana, he's an RFA after this season.

There's been some ongoing drama between him and Laviolette. He got scratched for 2 games a week ago, and after scoring an OT winner the other night, he stared down the bench, presumably the coaches. He's dipped down in minutes, sometimes only getting about 10 a night. Something was off, which is a shame, because he's incredibly talented and much liked by fans for his help winning the Cup.

That said, the more I read, the more I like this trade. They are freeing up a good chunk of cap space with Panik, who had turned into a taxi squad guy that was put on waivers not that long ago. Caps need to start worrying about re-signing Ovi, and this is a step in that direction. Also, draft picks are wonky, and the Caps are still pretty loaded in the minors (reportedly). The rebuild years are likely going to start in 2024/25, so... Try and get what you can now, and Mantha is a pretty massive addition.
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Post by sancarlos » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:24 pm

Regardless of how one shades it, I think that's a surprisingly high price paid for Mantha. Might have been par for the course in a different season, but not compared to other trades this season.
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Post by DSafetyGuy » Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:03 pm

That tweet was about two minutes old when I saw it and the responses at that point were overwhelmingly in favor of the price extracted from the Caps, but that was to be expected from the team account (#Yzerplan is still terrible, although the actual plan gives plenty of reason for optimism). Wings had cap space to give up in exchange for draft picks and the team has seemed to have done really well with their picks since the regime change, so getting high picks is a plus, even though the Caps' pick will be near the end of the round.

I have no clue if they want to extend Vrana or not, but Yzerman would have familiarity with Panik from their mutual time with the Lightning and his remaining contract is pretty modest (two years, $5.6 million, $2.75 million cap hit per year).

I cannot help but feel this nudges back the timetable on when they contend for a playoff spot by another season, though. That part is disappointing, but not anything to really get upset about, especially with the sheer number of picks they have in the next couple years - two in each of the first five rounds next season, save for three second-rounders, and an extra second and two extra fourths in 2022. Just seems like 2023-24 is when things should get interesting unless they start using cap space the season before that (their sheet for 2022-23 is clean except for Larkin and now Panik).
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Post by mister d » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:19 pm

Panik! At the ... Motown club ... in Detroit. Where Motown is famously from.
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Post by DSafetyGuy » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:35 am

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Panik! At the ... Motown club ... in Detroit. Where Motown is famously from.
Might be Panik at St. Andrew's or the State Theater, in that case. The latter was where the boxing event in "Out of Sight" took place.

Anyway, Panik gives the Wings another option for a player to be exposed in the expansion draft, allowing them to not risk Namestnikov.
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Post by govmentchedda » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:31 am

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Panik! At the ... Motown club ... in Detroit. Where Motown is famously from.
Might be Panik at St. Andrew's or the State Theater, in that case. The latter was where the boxing event in "Out of Sight" took place.

Anyway, Panik gives the Wings another option for a player to be exposed in the expansion draft, allowing them to not risk Namestnikov.
I remember overvaluing Namestnikov.
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mister d wrote:
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Panik! At the ... Motown club ... in Detroit. Where Motown is famously from.
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