To the extent it comes up: Trump crap post-WH years

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Re: To the extent it comes up: Trump crap post-WH years

Post by Pruitt » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:23 pm

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A huge issue with the GOP until Trump is that they could dog whistle all their fear buttons, but the vast majority of well-off folks in the suburbs could ignore the racism, misogamy, etc etc because they were KIND OF subtle.

Trump and his kind are so completely off the rails, these folks can't pretend it's not what is staring everyone in the face.

So, yes, I've agreed with your statement in the past. But now, with Trump fucking up their game completely, a huge accelerant to the whole process.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 pm

A lot of folks on here, understandably, focus on the here-and-now. I get it, I really do.

But I've been intently following shit since the early 80s. This is not going well for the GOP.

Kind of like how the NCAA bagmen didn't care about the long term implications of their bullshit.
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:25 am

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 pm
A lot of folks on here, understandably, focus on the here-and-now. I get it, I really do.

But I've been intently following shit since the early 80s. This is not going well for the GOP.

Kind of like how the NCAA bagmen didn't care about the long term implications of their bullshit.
I guess my main skepticism about these “GOP in disarray” stories is that I fully expect them all to come together (or stay together) to oppose the Dems. They’ll keep voting in lockstep in Congress on votes that matter, and they’ll unite behind their candidates at election time. And while I think Dem voters will stay energized for midterms etc., elections will ultimately come down to the fickle middle.

I expect things will be better economically and pandemically by 2022, so I don’t expect the Dems to lose their power then. But 2024 is such a wild card, especially if Biden can’t or doesn’t run again.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by L-Jam3 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:50 am

HERE is the webcam if you want to watch the Trump Plaza be imploded at 9 am EST today.
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Is that Boardwalk Hall in the background?

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Post by L-Jam3 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:55 am

That it is.
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Post by Rex » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:15 am

Well the foreground now.

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Post by Rex » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:19 am

Who has the tallest building in Atlantic City now?

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Post by L-Jam3 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:25 am

Hard Rock, right? (The old Taj.)
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Post by rass » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:32 am

From a distance whatever Revel became looks the tallest, esp if you count the ball thing on top.
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Post by psunate77 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:40 am



People think DT is going to just fade away..LOL.. He is going to be a huge Pain for 4 years and IF he runs he will be a shoe in for the Repub Nomination.
I still don't get why Repubs who have Presidential hopes in 2024 like Cruz, Hawley didn't vote to convict. You would think they want Trump gone cause there is no way they will beat him.

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Post by Pruitt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:58 am

Call me when the primaries begin.

8 years ago, the Republican polling the highest was Marco Rubio.

I know Trump is different, but just enjoy the sight of the republican party tearing itself apart for at leas a few months.
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Post by mister d » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 am

Did they forget about Bobby Jindal?
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Post by DaveInSeattle » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:08 pm

Perfectly normal...

Promotions for Female Generals Were Delayed Over Fears of Trump’s Reaction
Last fall, the Pentagon’s most senior leaders agreed that two top generals should be promoted to elite, four-star commands.

For then-Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the tricky part was that both of the accomplished officers were women. In 2020 America under President Trump, the two Pentagon leaders feared that any candidates other than white men for jobs mostly held by white men might run into turmoil once their nominations got to the White House.
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Re: To the extent it comes up: Trump crap post-WH years

Post by The Sybian » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:20 pm

Pruitt wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:58 am

I know Trump is different, but just enjoy the sight of the republican party tearing itself apart for at leas a few months.
I'm torn. I would love for the entire Trump clan to just disappear or go to jail, but on the other hand, I'd love to see all the ass kissing Conservatives who sold their souls to bow to Trump have to decide between remaining in the GOP or joining the Patriot Party or whatever Trump drums up. Ultimately, he is far too stupid and lazy to actually found a viable party, but he is a master at letting others do the work under his brand. Get a Steve Bannon or some smart behind the scenes people to use Trump as the face of the Party, and maybe it's possible. It'd be fun to watch the GOP implode and face consequences for throwing their lot in with Trump and failing to stand up to him at any of the 1000s of clear points they should have, but my fear is giving voice and power to Trump keeps the crazies at the table for longer. The more time that passes, Trump will continue to lose power and influence. His staunchest followers need a Daddy to guide them, and they will latch on to something or someone else, and Trump's influence will vanish. The question is, will his followers cling to a vocal, politically active cause, or will they crawl back under their rocks and return to irrelevancy?
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Post by mister d » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Maybe the Lincoln Project group could reunite to run Trump's campaign, but badly (while collecting obscene amounts of funding from center-left).
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Post by Rams Fanny » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:31 pm

One of the lasting legacies of Trump is that it has emboldened prominent Republicans to attempt pivoting tragedy toward issues they "care" about. Except none of them have the "appeal" of Trump or his 40% vocal support. Texas politician attempts to frame the blackout/water issues as a States' rights issue is as appalling as it is stupid.
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Post by The Sybian » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:27 pm

Rams Fanny wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:31 pm
One of the lasting legacies of Trump is that it has emboldened prominent Republicans to attempt pivoting tragedy toward issues they "care" about. Except none of them have the "appeal" of Trump or his 40% vocal support. Texas politician attempts to frame the blackout/water issues as a States' rights issue is as appalling as it is stupid.
Even worse, Abbott blaming AOC and the Green New Deal for the blackouts. Bitch, they haven't even made the plans let alone rolled out the GND.
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Post by Pruitt » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:59 pm

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Post by DaveInSeattle » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:11 pm

Trump's speech at CPAC on Sunday: On a scale from 1-10...how badshit loony will it be? I'm going with 346567.87.

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Post by Pruitt » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:13 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:11 pm
Trump's speech at CPAC on Sunday: On a scale from 1-10...how badshit loony will it be? I'm going with 346567.87.
I'm envisioning a Nuremberg rally scenario with everyone in attendance sieg heiling.
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Post by mister d » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:19 pm

I hope he incites the crowd to attack republican congress members.
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Post by Pruitt » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:04 pm

mister d wrote:
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I hope he incites the crowd to attack republican congress members.
Oh would that be marvellous!
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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:35 am

Getting an Alfred E Newman vibe.


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Post by Pruitt » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:34 pm

If there was going to be a ricin attack anywhere this weekend...
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Post by Pruitt » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:24 pm

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Post by mister d » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:42 pm

Mary Jo Buttafuoco looking good.
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Post by psunate77 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:31 am

Dems better start working to go against all the voter suppression. Cause I see Trump winning if he runs in 2024.

The Dems had to work their asses off to beat him. Abrahams, Beto, and others worked tirelessly to get people to vote. Trump talked for 15mins at rallies and got 75m votes.

What scares me is in 2024 there will not be a Abrahams, Beto to get people out to vote and people will hit not give a crap by then with the suppression to vote.

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Post by Pruitt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:20 am

mister d wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:42 pm
Mary Jo Buttafuoco looking good.
That is outstanding.
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:38 am

100% of the time when Buttafuco comes up I think about
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Post by Steve of phpBB » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:33 pm

psunate77 wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:31 am
The Dems had to work their asses off to beat him. Abrahams, Beto, and others worked tirelessly to get people to vote. Trump talked for 15mins at rallies and got 75m votes.
Not that it's going to stop the incessant bed-wetting, but I was under the impression that the GOP had massive GOTV efforts the last two elections, which is one reason why they were able to get out the vote so well.
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Post by P.D.X. » Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:28 am

This doesn't seem tenable for party unity


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P.D.X. wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:28 am
This doesn't seem tenable for party unity
Tenable for laughing at Republicans though thinking they could hitch their cart to a grifter.

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Post by mister d » Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:39 am

I'd argue Haberman shouldn't be releasing that statement. Just summarize without his words or links.
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Post by brian » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:50 pm

Now that he's not in office you really just have to laugh and marvel at the narcissism.


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Post by Johnnie » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:18 pm

Parler Users Furious That Site Sent Violent Posts to FBI Ahead of Capitol Riot

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Post by Pruitt » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:00 am

No surprise here, but so sleazy (so Trumpian...)

How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations
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Post by tennbengal » Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:43 pm

Pruitt wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:00 am
No surprise here, but so sleazy (so Trumpian...)

How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations
Literally, they stole millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions, straight from supporters. And the story passes by in an eye blink.

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Post by Johnnie » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:31 pm

I really couldn't give a fuck less if these lowlife scumbags grifted their supporters using the same techniques as companies that will give you 3 months free of their service when you input credit card info on the front end and make it difficult to cancel later.

In fact, I'm glad their money was stolen. And if the voters who were scammed don't learn their lesson, I hope it keeps happening again and again.

At some point you lose sympathy for the ignorant because the alternative is "their guy won and the rest of us suffer."

Fuck them all.
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Post by DSafetyGuy » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:31 pm

Johnnie wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:31 pm
I really couldn't give a fuck less if these lowlife scumbags grifted their supporters using the same techniques as companies that will give you 3 months free of their service when you input credit card info on the front end and make it difficult to cancel later.

In fact, I'm glad their money was stolen. And if the voters who were scammed don't learn their lesson, I hope it keeps happening again and again.

At some point you lose sympathy for the ignorant because the alternative is "their guy won and the rest of us suffer."

Fuck them all.
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