The Swamp

Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:31 pm I really couldn't give a fuck less if these lowlife scumbags grifted their supporters using the same techniques as companies that will give you 3 months free of their service when you input credit card info on the front end and make it difficult to cancel later.

In fact, I'm glad their money was stolen. And if the voters who were scammed don't learn their lesson, I hope it keeps happening again and again.

At some point you lose sympathy for the ignorant because the alternative is "their guy won and the rest of us suffer."

Fuck them all.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:26 pm I’d imagine some eager blue-state AG will bring a consumer protection lawsuit on behalf of the state’s citizens who donated.

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:39 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:26 pm I’d imagine some eager blue-state AG will bring a consumer protection lawsuit on behalf of the state’s citizens who donated.

And I wonder how many of those defrauded donors will object to it.

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:48 am This whole thing with Trump predictably scamming his supporters... I'm ultimately happy I got off Facebook when I did for a multitude of reasons, but things like that scam, and when he got COVID, and when he got fired, and when he lied about the votes when he got fired, and when he went 1-60 in court cases to reverse him getting fired, and when he goaded the terror attack on the Capitol to reverse him getting fired, and the successful vaccine rollout, successful because Trump was fired and someone competent took the reins... would just seem so fun to rub in the faces of all the Trump dipshits.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:43 am

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Biden is so bland and vanilla and hasn't done or said a single controversial thing so far, yet he elicits this kind of anger. Imagine if a controversial Dem won... actually, it wouldn't be much different, would it? They are going to paint a centrist as far left, so an actual far left President wouldn't be much different. Yet, they will blame Obama and Biden for being divisive while Trump wanted to unify all Americans

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:46 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:43 am

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Biden is so bland and vanilla and hasn't done or said a single controversial thing so far, yet he elicits this kind of anger. Imagine if a controversial Dem won... actually, it wouldn't be much different, would it? They are going to paint a centrist as far left, so an actual far left President wouldn't be much different. Yet, they will blame Obama and Biden for being divisive while Trump wanted to unify all Americans

Jesus Christ himself would elicit anger from these people because he's not Trump and therefore they can't feel superior to all those Liberals, professors and MSM anchormen.

Angry, angry people.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:25 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:46 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:43 am

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Biden is so bland and vanilla and hasn't done or said a single controversial thing so far, yet he elicits this kind of anger. Imagine if a controversial Dem won... actually, it wouldn't be much different, would it? They are going to paint a centrist as far left, so an actual far left President wouldn't be much different. Yet, they will blame Obama and Biden for being divisive while Trump wanted to unify all Americans

Jesus Christ himself would elicit anger from these people because he's not Trump and therefore they can't feel superior to all those Liberals, professors and MSM anchormen.

Angry, angry people.

Not to mention, Jesus preached some hardcore Socialist values. I’m surprised the GOP and Evangelicals haven’t tried to memory hole all of Jesus’ attributed values and replace them with anti-regulation corporate freedom bullshit.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:02 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:25 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:46 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:43 am

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Biden is so bland and vanilla and hasn't done or said a single controversial thing so far, yet he elicits this kind of anger. Imagine if a controversial Dem won... actually, it wouldn't be much different, would it? They are going to paint a centrist as far left, so an actual far left President wouldn't be much different. Yet, they will blame Obama and Biden for being divisive while Trump wanted to unify all Americans

Jesus Christ himself would elicit anger from these people because he's not Trump and therefore they can't feel superior to all those Liberals, professors and MSM anchormen.

Angry, angry people.

Not to mention, Jesus preached some hardcore Socialist values. I’m surprised the GOP and Evangelicals haven’t tried to memory hole all of Jesus’ attributed values and replace them with anti-regulation corporate freedom bullshit.

I thought they did that a long time ago. That and heavy weaponry of course.

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:37 am Why do so many Conservative pundits and whatever Lindell is constantly scream their points? Is it that they know they have no merit and feel screaming an asinine argument is more likely to be believed?

The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:37 am Why do so many Conservative pundits and whatever Lindell is constantly scream their points? Is it that they know they have no merit and feel screaming an asinine argument is more likely to be believed?

Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:07 pm "If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell."

Carl Sandburg.

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:22 amI don't think that's quite right.

If you don't have the facts, pound the law. If you don't have the law, pound the facts. If you don't have the facts or the law, pound the ...a...

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Reaper wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 10:35 pm

MaxWebster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 am i don't know if it belongs here or not but this weekend i was in Geneva NY (somewhere between Rochester and Syracuse) and on the main thoroughfare - route 20 - on a giant flagpole right at the street there was/is a flag in huge lettering that says

FUCK BIDEN
And fuck you for voting for him

in that same Tr*mp font.
(right under Old Glory, of course)

had to drive past it 4x. I was/am slightly pearl-clutching, I admit, but what the actual fuck.

Also not sure if it belongs here, but I had to change one of my running routes last October to avoid a house with a Trump flag, still with the Hillary for prison signs, and a car out front with a TRUMP20 vanity plate, etc. I just got annoyed every time I saw them so I cut out a quarter mile and added it somewhere else. I ran by a couple times in mid-November, maybe for a little schadenfreude, but it stayed up through the end of 2020 and I just got tired of seeing it again. I believe he finally took it down sometime around January 6th so I went back to the route because I just like that route more than the other one. Today I noticed a "Not My President" sign with a picture of Joe in a circle with the red line, as well as a brand new "Trump 2024" flag. I wanted to laugh still, but then it just started to annoy me again and I really wish it didn't.

Debra Ell, a Republican organizer in Michigan and fervent supporter of former president Donald Trump, said she has good reason to believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

“I think I speak for many people in that Trump has never actually been wrong, and so we’ve learned to trust when he says something, that he’s not just going to spew something out there that’s wrong and not verified,” she said, referring to Trump’s baseless claims that widespread electoral fraud caused his loss to President Biden in November.

In fact, there is no evidence to support Trump’s false assertions, which culminated in a deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. But Ell, a Republican precinct delegate in her state, said the 2020 election is one of the reasons she’s working to censure and remove Jason Roe from his role as the Michigan Republican Party’s executive director — specifically that Roe accepted the 2020 results, telling Politico that “the election wasn’t stolen” and that “there is no one to blame but Trump.”

“He said the election was not rigged, as Donald Trump had said, so we didn’t agree with that, and then he didn’t blame the Democrats for any election fraud,” said Ell, explaining her frustration with Roe. “He said there was no fraud — again, that’s something that doesn’t line up with what we think really happened — and then he said it’s all Donald Trump’s fault.”

A network of conservative activists, aided by a British former spy, mounted a campaign during the Trump administration to discredit perceived enemies of President Trump inside the government, according to documents and people involved in the operations.

The campaign included a planned sting operation against Mr. Trump’s national security adviser at the time, H.R. McMaster, and secret surveillance operations against F.B.I. employees, aimed at exposing anti-Trump sentiment in the bureau’s ranks.

The operations against the F.B.I., run by the conservative group Project Veritas, were conducted from a large home in the Georgetown section of Washington that rented for $10,000 per month. Female undercover operatives arranged dates with the F.B.I. employees with the aim of secretly recording them making disparaging comments about Mr. Trump.

The campaign shows the obsession that some of Mr. Trump’s allies had about a shadowy “deep state” trying to blunt his agenda — and the lengths that some were willing to go to try to purge the government of those believed to be disloyal to the president.

Central to the effort, according to interviews, was Richard Seddon, a former undercover British spy who was recruited in 2016 by the security contractor Erik Prince to train Project Veritas operatives to infiltrate trade unions, Democratic congressional campaigns and other targets. He ran field operations for Project Veritas until mid-2018.

It's hard to even know where to start with this one: James O'Keefe, the conservative filmmaker whose undercover videos essentially destroyed community organizing group ACORN, apparently attempted to lure CNN Correspondent Abbie Boudreau onto a boat potentially strewn with dildos and pornography, where he planned to faux-seduce her as hidden cameras filmed the whole thing.