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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm Keep in mind, that show isn't owned by ABC.

Someone else could pick it up.
Which would be interesting in terms of her supporting actors. Would they go along with her?
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Pruitt wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:26 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm Keep in mind, that show isn't owned by ABC.

Someone else could pick it up.
Which would be interesting in terms of her supporting actors. Would they go along with her?
Isn't Sara Gilbert pretty far left? I was surprised when she agreed to be on the reboot, but money talks.
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duff wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:28 pm
Pruitt wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:26 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm Keep in mind, that show isn't owned by ABC.

Someone else could pick it up.
Which would be interesting in terms of her supporting actors. Would they go along with her?
Isn't Sara Gilbert pretty far left? I was surprised when she agreed to be on the reboot, but money talks.
She's an EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of the show. Money does indeed talk.
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Wanda Sykes was the head writer up until this morning.

ETA - There is absolutely something to say about the lack of shows "speaking to" the Venn diagram of folks that are middle class/blue collar/MAGA Trumpers. And there's a way to go about it where you have kind of an Archie Bunker type character... Out of touch with the changes going on in America, stubborn, slightly offensive (to some), but endearing overall.

I stopped watching original Roseanne after 3 or 4 seasons because I can't stand her voice and the plot lines were getting loopy. And I never even considered watching this pile of shit. So I don't know if that's how they were using her.

But there's a show out there that someone could cash in on, if they can hold their nose long enough to pull it off.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:33 pm Wanda Sykes was the head writer up until this morning.

ETA - There is absolutely something to say about the lack of shows "speaking to" the Venn diagram of folks that are middle class/blue collar/MAGA Trumpers. And there's a way to go about it where you have kind of an Archie Bunker type character... Out of touch with the changes going on in America, stubborn, slightly offensive (to some), but endearing overall.

I stopped watching original Roseanne after 3 or 4 seasons because I can't stand her voice and the plot lines were getting loopy. And I never even considered watching this pile of shit. So I don't know if that's how they were using her.

But there's a show out there that someone could cash in on, if they can hold their nose long enough to pull it off.
Archie was endearing to America because everybody had an Archie Bunker in their extended family. Also, he was but a character played by Carroll O'Connor, who managed to infuse humanity into the archetypal character.

I think that story can definitely be told again, btw.
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How does Wanda Sykes even take that job.
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Ryan wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 1:18 pm PLEASE TWEET, DONNY T. DO IT NOW.

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EnochRoot wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:08 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:33 pm Wanda Sykes was the head writer up until this morning.

ETA - There is absolutely something to say about the lack of shows "speaking to" the Venn diagram of folks that are middle class/blue collar/MAGA Trumpers. And there's a way to go about it where you have kind of an Archie Bunker type character... Out of touch with the changes going on in America, stubborn, slightly offensive (to some), but endearing overall.

I stopped watching original Roseanne after 3 or 4 seasons because I can't stand her voice and the plot lines were getting loopy. And I never even considered watching this pile of shit. So I don't know if that's how they were using her.

But there's a show out there that someone could cash in on, if they can hold their nose long enough to pull it off.
Archie was endearing to America because everybody had an Archie Bunker in their extended family. Also, he was but a character played by Carroll O'Connor, who managed to infuse humanity into the archetypal character.

I think that story can definitely be told again, btw.

I over-stated Wanda's role. She was a consultant or something.

I think it says a lot that almost 20M people were tuning into this show. Like it or not, a lot of people are finding out with Trump that they have a Roseanne in their extended family.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:41 pm I think it says a lot that almost 20M people were tuning into this show. Like it or not, a lot of people are finding out with Trump that they have a Roseanne in their extended family.
Sad to say, but I think a lot of those folks are proud to have a Roseanne in their extended family.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:43 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:41 pm I think it says a lot that almost 20M people were tuning into this show. Like it or not, a lot of people are finding out with Trump that they have a Roseanne in their extended family.
Sad to say, but I think a lot of those folks are proud to have a Roseanne in their extended family.
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brian wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:51 pm Also relevant:
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degenerasian wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:30 pm How does Wanda Sykes even take that job.
Freelancers will take almost any job. It's how porno films get made.

And just because she's a black lesbian doesn't mean that she can turn down a well-paying gig.

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Nonlinear FC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:14 pm Keep in mind, that show isn't owned by ABC.

Someone else could pick it up.
Fox already opted to revive "Last Man Standing" with Tim Allen a couple weeks ago after a year off television, acknowledging the success of "Roseanne" as part of the reason.
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degenerasian wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 3:30 pm How does Wanda Sykes even take that job.
Freelancers will take almost any job. It's how porno films get made.
And, with the "consulting producer" title, she gets closer to membership (or maintaining her membership) in the Producers' Guild of America and is not required to write any scripts for the show, but work solely in a "punch up" role. Getting some sort of "producer" credit like this (or co-executive producer, etc.) is essentially a promotion when someone is a writer but there is no traditional place to move up to.
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I think in the comedy world Rosanne and Sykes have run in the same circles. I enjoyed Last Comic Standing (despite all of its issues).
Wanda Sykes was the EVP for Season 8 of the show......and that was the year they had Roseanne Barr, Keenen Ivory Wayans, and Russell Peters served as the judges with JB Smoove as the host.

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Season 9 (the last one they did) was also Sykes with Barr as a judge.
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So Roseanna blamed the fact she was taking Ambien when she was tweeting.
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She also called Susan Rice a man with big swinging ape balls back in 2013.

Just like with Trump, she spews so much nonsense, people just tune it out and ignore it. And of course, back then she wasn't in the spotlight.
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So a guy I went to high school with whined on Facebook, (paraphrased), “so Roseanne got fired by ABC for her tweet, but how come ABC didn’t fire the women on The View who made a disrespectful comment about Christianity? Double standard!” Got lots of “likes”. Sheesh.
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Anyone else watching The Americans?

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sancarlos wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:13 am So a guy I went to high school with whined on Facebook, (paraphrased), “so Roseanne got fired by ABC for her tweet, but how come ABC didn’t fire the women on The View who made a disrespectful comment about Christianity? Double standard!” Got lots of “likes”. Sheesh.
They're all about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a cunt last night now.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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Rush2112 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:34 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:13 am So a guy I went to high school with whined on Facebook, (paraphrased), “so Roseanne got fired by ABC for her tweet, but how come ABC didn’t fire the women on The View who made a disrespectful comment about Christianity? Double standard!” Got lots of “likes”. Sheesh.
They're all about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a cunt last night now.
And for crying out loud, Samantha Bee isn't even an American!
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Pruitt wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:48 pm
Rush2112 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:34 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:13 am So a guy I went to high school with whined on Facebook, (paraphrased), “so Roseanne got fired by ABC for her tweet, but how come ABC didn’t fire the women on The View who made a disrespectful comment about Christianity? Double standard!” Got lots of “likes”. Sheesh.
They're all about Samantha Bee calling Ivanka a cunt last night now.
And for crying out loud, Samantha Bee isn't even an American!
I thought Feckless cunt was a pretty good description of that fucking twat
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Pretty ridiculous to call anyone a cunt (at least in America.)

That's a third rail word for most of the country. And not just MAGA people.
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She should know better for sure. Silly to give the professional victims on the right any chance to flex their ability to try and compare things that have nothing to do with each other -- like a personal insult (Bee) vs. blatant racism (Barr) -- to further their shitty agendas.
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I assumed they had some clever grand plan in mind, because how could you not foresee this reaction (especially after the Roseanne controversy earlier in the week), but they folded almost instantly.
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brian wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 3:00 pm She should know better for sure. Silly to give the professional victims on the right any chance to flex their ability to try and compare things that have nothing to do with each other -- like a personal insult (Bee) vs. blatant racism (Barr) -- to further their shitty agendas.
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I just saw a headline that said Bee used a "slur" against Ivana.

I can't roll my eyes far enough back on that one. Give me fucking break.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 2:52 pm Pretty ridiculous to call anyone a cunt (at least in America.)

That's a third rail word for most of the country. And not just MAGA people.
Third rail, or just towards women? Because I’ve referred to her father and her brothers as cunts many a times, including here.

And can’t women, especially comedians, call other women cunts? Sort of how black comedians can call other blacks the n-bomb?
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L-Jam3 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:03 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 2:52 pm Pretty ridiculous to call anyone a cunt (at least in America.)

That's a third rail word for most of the country. And not just MAGA people.
Third rail, or just towards women? Because I’ve referred to her father and her brothers as cunts many a times, including here.

And can’t women, especially comedians, call other women cunts? Sort of how black comedians can call other blacks the n-bomb?
Not from what women have told me. It's never said as anything less than a vicious insult.

Even though she's from toronto, I'm not a huge fan of Samantha Bee. She's like other news comics. Sometimes funny, but usually shooting fish in a barrel. That's what makes John oliver better - the fact that his show does good investigative work as well - at least inasmuch as the show will have a lengthy piece that explains an issue (with a specific POV).

ETA - She''s right about Ivanka.
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Samantha Bee can fuck off.
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Feckless cunt is a fantastic term to describe Ivanka Trump, as explained by Rebecca Traister.

Here's some more words by Rebecca on the subject.
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Pruitt wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:10 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:03 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 2:52 pm Pretty ridiculous to call anyone a cunt (at least in America.)

That's a third rail word for most of the country. And not just MAGA people.
Third rail, or just towards women? Because I’ve referred to her father and her brothers as cunts many a times, including here.

And can’t women, especially comedians, call other women cunts? Sort of how black comedians can call other blacks the n-bomb?
Not from what women have told me. It's never said as anything less than a vicious insult.


Again, mileage absolutely varies on this, but I'd agree with Pruitt... It's considered by many women to be roughly equivalent to the n word or the f word for homosexuals.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 5:07 pm
Pruitt wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:10 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 4:03 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 2:52 pm Pretty ridiculous to call anyone a cunt (at least in America.)

That's a third rail word for most of the country. And not just MAGA people.
Third rail, or just towards women? Because I’ve referred to her father and her brothers as cunts many a times, including here.

And can’t women, especially comedians, call other women cunts? Sort of how black comedians can call other blacks the n-bomb?
Not from what women have told me. It's never said as anything less than a vicious insult.


Again, mileage absolutely varies on this, but I'd agree with Pruitt... It's considered by many women to be roughly equivalent to the n word or the f word for homosexuals.
And that's why she chose the right word.
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Rush2112 wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:34 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:13 am So a guy I went to high school with whined on Facebook, (paraphrased), “so Roseanne got fired by ABC for her tweet, but how come ABC didn’t fire the women on The View who made a disrespectful comment about Christianity? Double standard!” Got lots of “likes”. Sheesh.
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Maybe they're up in arms because they don't know what feckless means?
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Yeah, FOH with taking the high road when they go low. That's how you lose elections.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:21 pm Anyone else watching The Americans?

Damn, awesome finale.
It was maybe the best episode of the series. That showdown in the parking garage...holy shit.
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