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The advent of HD drone cameras seems like it would really lend itself to this type of filmmaking.

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Interesting thread about Ted Lasso screenwriting...

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Great return of Ted. Though going back to the pre-binging method of watching is hard man. I need more.
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rass wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:02 am Kate Winslet is good at acting.

I spent the majority of the show somehow convinced Detective Zabel was Mikey Day from SNL and was almost shocked when I finally got around to googling him and realized it was that guy from the X-Men movies.
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RIP Zabel - though other than the initial scene when he drunkenly sort of hit on her I wasn't a big fan of the Mare/Zabel possibly romantic relationship part of the show
We finished it last night and loved it. We did have one big question though:
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Why didn't they show Erin's dad's reaction to it? I mean, his brother fucked his daughter and impregnated her, and we don't get to see what he thought about all this?
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Rush2112 wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:17 pm Great return of Ted. Though going back to the pre-binging method of watching is hard man. I need more.
Do they release all episodes at once or once a week?
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Giff wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:47 pm
rass wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:02 am Kate Winslet is good at acting.

I spent the majority of the show somehow convinced Detective Zabel was Mikey Day from SNL and was almost shocked when I finally got around to googling him and realized it was that guy from the X-Men movies.
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RIP Zabel - though other than the initial scene when he drunkenly sort of hit on her I wasn't a big fan of the Mare/Zabel possibly romantic relationship part of the show
We finished it last night and loved it. We did have one big question though:
[+] spoiler
Why didn't they show Erin's dad's reaction to it? I mean, his brother fucked his daughter and impregnated her, and we don't get to see what he thought about all this?
Dunno.
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*Cousin, not brother. But yeah. He was in jail, and the identity of the killer wasn't going to change that, and Mare probably wasn't really the appropriate person to go tell him, so I guess they didn't want to shoehorn it in?
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Giff wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:47 pm
Rush2112 wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:17 pm Great return of Ted. Though going back to the pre-binging method of watching is hard man. I need more.
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Damn, we were going to have a family binge party next week on our trip.
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Rush2112 wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:17 pm Great return of Ted. Though going back to the pre-binging method of watching is hard man. I need more.
I loathe once-a-week television. It's manipulative to keep you a slave to some preordained schedule.

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I can understand why Apple is using that model though. They have what, 2-3 shows that people are into it's smart to week by week otherwise people are just going to subscribe then binge and cancel before the free trial gives out.
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It kills me that at the beginning of the streaming revolution and the cult of cut-the-cord the talk was all about the death of broadcast and cable TV and how much cheaper it would be.

All we did was trade who gets our money and the technical engine that drives the medium.
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GoodKarma wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:59 pm It kills me that at the beginning of the streaming revolution and the cult of cut-the-cord the talk was all about the death of broadcast and cable TV and how much cheaper it would be.

All we did was trade who gets our money and the technical engine that drives the medium.
Still a lot cheaper
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brian wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:51 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm Digging the Dale "documentary." As advertised, a very odd yet compelling approach.
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Really enjoyed it and was not surprising to see what a piece of shit Tucker Carlson’s father is.
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sancarlos wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:03 pm
GoodKarma wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:59 pm It kills me that at the beginning of the streaming revolution and the cult of cut-the-cord the talk was all about the death of broadcast and cable TV and how much cheaper it would be.

All we did was trade who gets our money and the technical engine that drives the medium.
Still a lot cheaper
Depending on how much content you want I don’t think it is. YouTube TV, Hulu + Live TV, etc are all $65/month or more. Add on the cost of Netflix, Apple TV, etc and the network streaming services the advantage streaming has narrows considerably. I’m paying $120/month for DirecTV and that includes HBO and Sunday Ticket. If you’re fine with less content then yeah it’s a lot cheaper.
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GoodKarma wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:45 pm
sancarlos wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:03 pm
GoodKarma wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:59 pm It kills me that at the beginning of the streaming revolution and the cult of cut-the-cord the talk was all about the death of broadcast and cable TV and how much cheaper it would be.

All we did was trade who gets our money and the technical engine that drives the medium.
Still a lot cheaper
Depending on how much content you want I don’t think it is. YouTube TV, Hulu + Live TV, etc are all $65/month or more. Add on the cost of Netflix, Apple TV, etc and the network streaming services the advantage streaming has narrows considerably. I’m paying $120/month for DirecTV and that includes HBO and Sunday Ticket. If you’re fine with less content then yeah it’s a lot cheaper.
YouTube TV is trying to have it both ways. You're spending $70+ a month to be chained to a schedule.

And for the record: I can create a streaming package that would offer what, 3, 4x the content than DirecTV if I had $120/mo to build it.
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Schedule? YTTV has unlimited DVR.
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Yeah, I don't understand that at all. With YTTV, you can pretty much watch anything whenever you want.
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Unlimited DVR or not, it’s still $65+ a month to primarily watch cable TV channels. I like it (though I’ve temporarily paused it over the summer), but I can get a lot more content with that money if I spend it on actual streaming services, which really was pointed at GoodKarma’s contention that we’re back where we started. YTTV pushes us backwards to the cable format (cloud DVR notwithstanding, cuz we had TiVo, and cable companies like Comcast offer cloud DVR functionality anyway). It costs that much money because Google is paying those cable channels $.

eta: the bigs: Hulu is owned by Disney, but at least there is Hulu-exclusive content. Netflix is still owned by its founders (LOL at Blockbuster for turning down their offer), and obv Amazon is Amazon.
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Episode one of Season 2 of Ted Lasso was kind of meh for me. Hoping that this show doesn’t start taking itself too seriously and stops being funny.
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bfj wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:01 pm Episode one of Season 2 of Ted Lasso was kind of meh for me. Hoping that this show doesn’t start taking itself too seriously and stops being funny.
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EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:26 pm Unlimited DVR or not, it’s still $65+ a month to primarily watch cable TV channels. I like it (though I’ve temporarily paused it over the summer), but I can get a lot more content with that money if I spend it on actual streaming services, which really was pointed at GoodKarma’s contention that we’re back where we started. YTTV pushes us backwards to the cable format (cloud DVR notwithstanding, cuz we had TiVo, and cable companies like Comcast offer cloud DVR functionality anyway). It costs that much money because Google is paying those cable channels $.

eta: the bigs: Hulu is owned by Disney, but at least there is Hulu-exclusive content. Netflix is still owned by its founders (LOL at Blockbuster for turning down their offer), and obv Amazon is Amazon.
My bad…I realize I wasn’t very clear before. My point wasn’t that we’re back where we started…my point was streaming isn’t some life changing screaming deal compared to traditional cable. It was when YTTV was $25/month. Now that it’s approaching $70 a basic cable package with a comparable channel lineup is not that much more. If I want all the best content out there I have to subscribe to multiple streaming services I order to get it whereas pre-streaming cable was the only place to get it.

For example, I like the show Evil that came out on CBS a couple years ago. CBS decided to put season 2 on Paramount +…now I have to pay extra to see a show that I would have seen either for free (OTA) or as part of my basic cable package. Corporations get their money eventually. Streaming may kill Comcast, AT&T or whoever but that’s just shifting the delivery method…content providers aren’t going to settle for getting less $$$ overall.
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GoodKarma wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:28 pm
EnochRoot wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:26 pm Unlimited DVR or not, it’s still $65+ a month to primarily watch cable TV channels. I like it (though I’ve temporarily paused it over the summer), but I can get a lot more content with that money if I spend it on actual streaming services, which really was pointed at GoodKarma’s contention that we’re back where we started. YTTV pushes us backwards to the cable format (cloud DVR notwithstanding, cuz we had TiVo, and cable companies like Comcast offer cloud DVR functionality anyway). It costs that much money because Google is paying those cable channels $.

eta: the bigs: Hulu is owned by Disney, but at least there is Hulu-exclusive content. Netflix is still owned by its founders (LOL at Blockbuster for turning down their offer), and obv Amazon is Amazon.
My bad…I realize I wasn’t very clear before. My point wasn’t that we’re back where we started…my point was streaming isn’t some life changing screaming deal compared to traditional cable. It was when YTTV was $25/month. Now that it’s approaching $70 a basic cable package with a comparable channel lineup is not that much more. If I want all the best content out there I have to subscribe to multiple streaming services I order to get it whereas pre-streaming cable was the only place to get it.

For example, I like the show Evil that came out on CBS a couple years ago. CBS decided to put season 2 on Paramount +…now I have to pay extra to see a show that I would have seen either for free (OTA) or as part of my basic cable package. Corporations get their money eventually. Streaming may kill Comcast, AT&T or whoever but that’s just shifting the delivery method…content providers aren’t going to settle for getting less $$$ overall.
Yeah, we're on the same page with that.
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The White Lotus is really good (so far).

Some truly odd and some truly horrible characters and it's pretty funny.
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Seconded.

And you could do worse for a show than having to look at Alexandra Daddario in a bikini and less for most of the episodes. She's a good actress, of course. But wowsers.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:33 am Seconded.

And you could do worse for a show than having to look at Alexandra Daddario in a bikini and less for most of the episodes. She's a good actress, of course. But wowsers.
Ummm, I wasn't familiar with her work. Big fan now.

Also, Jennifer Coolidge is off the charts great in the show.
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Reaper wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:43 pm
Ryan wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:27 am ON THE RECORD TAKE: Aaron Rodgers should be the permanent host of Jeopardy
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LeVar Burton is pretty poor at the hosting. Other than Bill Whitaker and Mayim Bialik (didn't watch the Dr. Oz episodes), he has been the worst.
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Pruitt wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:48 pm
Nonlinear FC wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:33 am Seconded.

And you could do worse for a show than having to look at Alexandra Daddario in a bikini and less for most of the episodes. She's a good actress, of course. But wowsers.
Ummm, I wasn't familiar with her work. Big fan now.

Also, Jennifer Coolidge is off the charts great in the show.
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Pruitt wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:49 pm
Reaper wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:43 pm
Ryan wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:27 am ON THE RECORD TAKE: Aaron Rodgers should be the permanent host of Jeopardy
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LeVar Burton is pretty poor at the hosting. Other than Bill Whitaker and Mayim Bialik (didn't watch the Dr. Oz episodes), he has been the worst.
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An old friend from work retired and he and his wife bought a sweet town home in Napa. So the wife and I just got back from three awesome days up there hanging out with them. Ate great food and drank shittons of excellent wine. But perhaps the highlight was (finally) getting to binge all the Ted Lasso episodes!

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So great, all of this. Watched "Lavender" tonight.
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sancarlos wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:37 pm An old friend from work retired and he and his wife bought a sweet town home in Napa. So the wife and I just got back from three awesome days up there hanging out with them. Ate great food and drank shittons of excellent wine. But perhaps the highlight was (finally) getting to binge all the Ted Lasso episodes!

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Pruitt wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:24 am The White Lotus is really good (so far).

Some truly odd and some truly horrible characters and it's pretty funny.
Watching Ep 1 now. Yeah, will stay with this one.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am We watched the first episode of 'McCartney 3,2,1' last night (Paul McCartney talking music and life with producer Rick Rubin) as a palatte cleanser after watching 'Handmaid's Tale'.

It was good, and interesting, but my god....there wasn't a PA brave enough to tell Sir Paul that he shouldn't be chewing gum during a filmed interview? Very distracting!
Between the gum chewing, strange black and white camera work, and the personalities of McCartney and Rubin, this would perfect for an SNL parody --someone, get Dana Carvey on the phone.

It is great Beatles porn though.
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Ted Lasso is as great as advertised but do all Apple TV shows have as much Apple product placement? It’s almost a little distracting sometimes.
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brian wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:38 pm Ted Lasso is as great as advertised but do all Apple TV shows have as much Apple product placement? It’s almost a little distracting sometimes.
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Really enjoying For All Mankind on Apple TV now. Alternate history of the US space program in a world where the Russians beat the US to the Moon. Show creator and EP is the guy behind Battlestar Gallactica (the remake) which is a decent enough pedigree.
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Ted Lasso still rules.
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GaTa on "Dave" is one of the best television characters of the last couple decades. There's a much better show about him in there.
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