NHL 2021 Offseason

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:20 pm

bapo! wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:06 pm I'll save my Oilers thoughts for the offseason thread. Do we have an offseason thread? No? Great. Let's talk about something else.

We now have an offseason thread!

But it's really to say that Seattle has a coach! Dave Hasktol. Perhaps a bit underwhelming?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:51 pm

Yeah, that's not at all the direction I was expecting Seattle to go in. Maybe's he's deep analytics but that was never the impression I got when he was with the Flyers.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:17 pm

is this where i Eeyore myself and say this will be the worst fng offseason in 10years of horrible offseasons for Buffalo?

I need a new team.

...

and get off my lawn while I'm at it.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:24 pm

I love that every version of the Eichel trade is either "lottery pick + a top 20 NHL prospect" or "Sabres just want out of his salary, they're going to do the O'Reilly trade again". Absolutely nothing in between.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:27 pm

The more I think about it the less I think Buffalo gets. Eichel's injury is such a wild card. I get that it only takes one team to bite, and that he's been great, but how does Anaheim give up Zegras and #3 given the unknowns?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:35 pm

Ha, that's the best example of the "I don't think Buffalo gets either half, let alone both" proposals I've seen. Just insane. Same with the Blackhawks giving their first + Dach or any other iteration.

Huge cap hit plus flat cap plus cash flow issues plus neck injury(!) plus known discontent ... I don't see the leverage even if there are a half dozen teams fishing around.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:36 pm

Yet Buffalo will still be motivated to move now because the NMC kicks in next year.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:36 pm

I think the hiring of Hakstol indicates Seattle will go youth-first in the expansion draft. Before his short stint with the Flyers, he was a longtime, very successful coach in juniors and at the university of North Dakota.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:30 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:36 pm I think the hiring of Hakstol indicates Seattle will go youth-first in the expansion draft. Before his short stint with the Flyers, he was a longtime, very successful coach in juniors and at the university of North Dakota.

You might be right. It’s gonna be interesting for sure. Seattle’s coming into such a shitty division they might consider going a mix of youth and experience because if they get lucky enough might be able to finish 3rd/4th in the Pacific and get fans invested immediately in a playoff series.

I’ll grant that’s probably a best case scenario though. VGK is class of division, the Cali teams are between rebuilding/bad and the Canadian teams are huge question marks.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:10 pm

Maybe they see Vegas as a cautionary tale of an expansion team that build for the short-term but couldn’t get over the hump ; P

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:54 pm

Nice to see MAF finally get some appreciation after years of being shit on in Vegas.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:08 pm

Fox winning the Norris is actually bad.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:22 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:08 pm Fox winning the Norris is actually bad.

I’m surprised Fox won. Nothing against him. They just don’t usually give it to such young guys.

Good luck keeping his next contract manageable.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:07 pm

They just gave a guy an award for scoring on Flyers goaltending.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:55 am

If you read too much Twitter rumoring this could be fireworks related at a team function or atleast with others in the CBJ org.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:43 am

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:55 am

If you read too much Twitter rumoring this could be fireworks related at a team function or atleast with others in the CBJ org.

According the The Athletic, there was a fireworks malfunction while he was in a hot tub. "The deceased, while exiting the hot tub, slipped and fell and hit his head on the concrete,” said Novi police Lt. Jason Meier.

Post by **brian** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:47 am

Nothing good ever comes of mixing Michigan and fireworks.

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:43 pm

Fuck...

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:48 pm

Awful news. I can't stand non-professional fireworks.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:12 pm

My wife and I were talking about that... We used to go down to South Carolina every year for our beach vacation. You can buy INCREDIBLE fireworks off the shelf down there. And it USED to be completely legal on the beaches down there.

Anyways, I was always careful (built a pit so they can't get knocked over or blown over, dug the mortar tube in very securely in the sand), but, still... Always had an edge of being dangerous.

Hearing this news makes you rethink some choices...

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:43 pm

Professional grade fireworks in the hands of amateurs is fucking stupid. The people who threw the party where those fireworks were detonated should be criminally liable for his death.

“Accident” my ass.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:38 pm

The nine-shot firework being used was legal in Michigan, and the person operating it at the time Kivlenieks was struck was in compliance with state laws and allegedly had been "training with the homeowner for the summer and was staying there," Meier said.

Between that quote and the rumor of a deleted twitter pic of a fireworks stash, it sure sounds like its going to be Merzlikins who set it off.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:46 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:12 pm My wife and I were talking about that... We used to go down to South Carolina every year for our beach vacation. You can buy INCREDIBLE fireworks off the shelf down there. And it USED to be completely legal on the beaches down there.

Anyways, I was always careful (built a pit so they can't get knocked over or blown over, dug the mortar tube in very securely in the sand), but, still... Always had an edge of being dangerous.

Hearing this news makes you rethink some choices...

It's all fun and games until the rednecks fifty feet away don't do this and you're trying to protect a six year old from flaming projectiles.

Better to watch from the balcony anyway.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:07 pm

Kids stayed up on the balcony with mom.

No one near us... Litchfield Beach was money for that very reason. Many hundreds of yards of clearance.

Still...

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:07 pm

You traded a player and a pick for a very expensive 38 year old with no salary retained.

Never stop being Edmonton.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:19 pm

:D :D :D

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:26 pm

Indefensible

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:31 pm

Perhaps the Oilers were looking at Keith’s highlights from ten years ago.

His big salary sure doesn’t help their cap situation, either.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:50 pm

We haven't even talked about Regis McGuire getting a front office job in Ottawa.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:14 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:50 pm We haven't even talked about Regis McGuire getting a front office job in Ottawa.

We should all be thankful to the Senators for getting him off TV.

I imagine the first thing Pierre will do is fire anybody on his staff who focuses on analytics.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:37 am

Almost like Ken Holland is a poor GM both without a deep-pocketed owner willing to pay through the nose for Cups in a non-salary cap era.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:58 am

Parise AND Suter bought out!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:04 am

Maybe they had that written into the initial contracts.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:09 pm

Edmonton should have waited a day. Suter for less than 5.5 and don't have to give up anything

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:11 pm

I'm sure his NTC was atleast 3 teams.

Post by **brian** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:49 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:11 pm I'm sure his NTC was atleast 3 teams.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:57 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:58 am Parise AND Suter bought out!

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:20 am

I know of 10 previously vaxxed people who went to the playoffs here, and later tested positive for COVID-19.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:21 am

Did they get tested because they were symptomatic?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:22 am

Why did they all get tested?

(Also I thought vaccines were illegal in Florida.)