NHL 2021 Offseason

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:26 pm

Seattle’s forwards all look to be third-liners.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:17 pm

For sure, but most all of the non-Gourde top 6 guys were all on pretty poisonous contracts. I'm wondering if they're going to regret going Geekie over Bean which was probably for F/D balance unless it was comped by Carolina.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:24 pm

Expecting to hear of quite a few trades during tonight's broadcast.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:29 pm

Really hoping the Rangers don't play the role of the 2017 Panthers.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:17 pm

They are really ESPNing this.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:24 pm

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:39 pm

All of the Kraken gear is badass.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:47 pm

If Niles Crane doesn’t show up to reveal a pick, what are we even doing here?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:50 pm

Im just getting more mad. Flames miss the playoffs, don't have a lot of depth, and somehow lost the best played in the expansion draft. This sums up being a Flames fan

GoodKarma · Post by **GoodKarma** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:51 pm

The production quality makes me think the crew is staffed by all interns

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:00 pm

Shawn Kemp, a noted expert in leaving things unprotected.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:15 pm

No side deals! Then that is a absolutely terrible job by Francis. Thinks he's the smartest guy in the room I bet.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:26 pm

Trades will be announced tomorrow. BUT...it does not look good for Francis at the moment. Some real headscratchers.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:17 pm

I’m going to dissent and say every GM was so terrified of a bad side deal there were no deals to make.

Post by **brian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:38 pm

They were definitely trying to go young and cheap. Jury’s out on how that goes I guess. Taking Donskoi off Colorado and Giordano off Calgary hurts those two teams so nothing but good news for Vegas near as I can tell.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:45 pm

I bet the pass-throughs, especially on defense, make tonight’s analysis change drastically.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:26 pm

Not happy.... :(

Just the worst management. If you told me in 2019 that the Flames would lose both Brodie and Giordano for nothing, I'd call you crazy.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:22 am

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:14 am Pretty sure none of them wore masks.

Lightning anthem singer Sonya Bryson-Kirksey hospitalized with COVID. She has MS already. No word on whether she'd been vaxxed.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:34 am

That sucks. Hope she's OK.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:41 am

And I guess I'll ask this here since we, unfortunately, don't have any anthem-related threads - when/how did a dedicated anthem singer (more or less?) become the norm in the NHL? Because Canada? And how has the league not managed to ruin that yet?

I mean, how great is this?

In 1996, then New Jersey Devils GM Lou Lamoriello met Roxburgh on the streets of New York City on 2nd Avenue. He noticed that she was singing in a restaurant and watched for a while. Lamoriello was very impressed by her musical talent, so he asked Roxburgh if she could perform The Star-Spangled Banner before the Devils home games.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:53 am

Amirante before Game 7 in ‘94 is the most iconic anthem no one has ever heard.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:29 am

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:09 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:04 pm Just move #26 to Houston already.
Frankly, before this year, I have no idea how the Panthers didn't get moved. They seemed to finally get their barn to at least 50% capacity (although who knows, given COVID restrictions). That team seems to be on the up, but it really hurts to put your arena in such a horrible location. It's very analogous to the Rays.

I haven't traveled to a lot of other NHL venues, but the Panthers site was one of the most random, depressing professional venues I've ever seen. Like.. Is it a mall? Is it on a reservation?

And the crowd was so not into it.

Say what you want about Buffalo as a franchise, that location is sweet.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:55 am

So like 30 hours left before NYR either does or doesn't acquire Eichel and I still have no idea where I stand on him even before considering the prospect cost. That neck injury seems troubling as hell unless he's partially using it to escape.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:01 am

rass wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:41 am And I guess I'll ask this here since we, unfortunately, don't have any anthem-related threads - when/how did a dedicated anthem singer (more or less?) become the norm in the NHL? Because Canada? And how has the league not managed to ruin that yet?

I mean, how great is this?

In 1996, then New Jersey Devils GM Lou Lamoriello met Roxburgh on the streets of New York City on 2nd Avenue. He noticed that she was singing in a restaurant and watched for a while. Lamoriello was very impressed by her musical talent, so he asked Roxburgh if she could perform The Star-Spangled Banner before the Devils home games.

Around the same time. They played God Saved the King on the NHL in 1918. Dedicated singer? Probably would depend on team? Roger Doucet was probably the first "celeb"

They started anthems for Olympic winners in Paris 1924.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:06 am

I take solace in the fact that the Red Wings were able to keep the name of the player lost in the draft a secret the longest.

It's also hard to get upset about losing a defenseman (Dennis Cholowski) about whom the first comment is perpetually a variation of "needs to get better at playing defense".

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:23 am

mister d wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:24 pm

I didn't watch it. Was that just a misspelling of the white Seattle rapper or did they bust out Mariners legend Mark McLemore to make a selection?

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am

Fwiw, the Sharks don’t have a dedicated anthem singer. The hold tryouts in the offseason for some of the dates and fill in the rest with local pseudo-celebrities (and when they made the playoffs - real celebrities).

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:52 pm

Well Goodrow signed for the rumored amount (6 x $3.65MM) BUUUTTT ... not backloaded like expected. Mostly a bell curve. No logic here.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:09 pm

Flyers trade Gostisbehere, a second-rounder and a seventh-rounder to the Coyotes for...absolutely nothing.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:14 pm

Kinda wonder why Seattle wasn't on that in the first place, although apparently there were "other teams" that asked for either a 1st or York so maybe they thought holding out would pay.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:19 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:14 pm Kinda wonder why Seattle wasn't on that in the first place, although apparently there were "other teams" that asked for either a 1st or York so maybe they thought holding out would pay.

We're definitely only 1/2 way through this process, and VGK wasn't expected to do much at this point in their process, but it really seems like Francis has not done a great job.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 pm

Maybe its still coming, but I expected them to have made a half dozen or so moves by now today.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:37 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:09 pm Flyers trade Gostisbehere, a second-rounder and a seventh-rounder to the Coyotes for...absolutely nothing.

How is that possible? Not even a PTBNL? Do they have that in hockey?

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:41 pm

L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:37 pm
brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:09 pm Flyers trade Gostisbehere, a second-rounder and a seventh-rounder to the Coyotes for...absolutely nothing.
How is that possible? Not even a PTBNL? Do they have that in hockey?

You can trade players for cash I believe with a cap on the amount (maybe a million?), so maybe they got like $100 from the Yotes or something?

ETA: They were technically traded for "Future Considerations" which means a fourth-line grinder in the ECHL or a bag of pucks or something.

Post by **brian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:44 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 pm Maybe its still coming, but I expected them to have made a half dozen or so moves by now today.

They did trade Tyler Pitlick to CGY for a fourth-rounder next year today.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:51 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:44 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 pm Maybe its still coming, but I expected them to have made a half dozen or so moves by now today.
They did trade Tyler Pitlick to CGY for a fourth-rounder next year today.

Grrrrrrrr

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:52 pm

brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:41 pm
L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:37 pm
brian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:09 pm Flyers trade Gostisbehere, a second-rounder and a seventh-rounder to the Coyotes for...absolutely nothing.
How is that possible? Not even a PTBNL? Do they have that in hockey?
You can trade players for cash I believe with a cap on the amount (maybe a million?), so maybe they got like $100 from the Yotes or something?

ETA: They were technically traded for "Future Considerations" which means a fourth-line grinder in the ECHL or a bag of pucks or something.

You can trade for nothing. Just to eat the contract. Isles did it last week.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:03 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:19 pm
mister d wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:14 pm Kinda wonder why Seattle wasn't on that in the first place, although apparently there were "other teams" that asked for either a 1st or York so maybe they thought holding out would pay.
We're definitely only 1/2 way through this process, and VGK wasn't expected to do much at this point in their process, but it really seems like Francis has not done a great job.

Exhibit A

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:49 pm

The national hockey writers for the Athletic each gave the Red Wings an A for their part in the Alex Nedeljkovic trade and the 'Canes a C- and D+.

That seems good.