This Aaron Hernandez thing.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:06 am

I don't know about you guys, but I'm excited to hear new ESPN analyst Ray Lewis discuss this issue!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:24 am

AussieDave wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I'm excited to hear new ESPN analyst Ray Lewis discuss this issue!

Awesome!

But in reality, they will either a) keep Lewis away from this issue or b) Lewis will include the words "faith," "prayer" and "jesus" in his no doubt hard-hitting analysis.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:35 pm

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:50 pm

Raiders below the median?!?!?!

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:46 pm

Go get your free Tebow Jersey!!

The New England Patriots ProShop will offer a free jersey exchange of any #81 Hernandez jersey purchased at the Patriots ProShop or online at PatriotsProShop.com for a new Patriots jersey of comparable value. The free jersey exchange will be available exclusively at the Patriots ProShop the weekend of Saturday, July 6 and Sunday, July 7.

“We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys, but may not understand why parents don’t want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore,” said New England Patriots spokesperson Stacey James. “We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots ProShop for another player’s jersey will be well received by parents.”

This opportunity for a free exchange of jerseys is limited to the weekend of July 6-7 and is available only at the Patriots ProShop located at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Mass. The hours of operation are from 10:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. on Saturday, July 6 and from 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. on Sunday, July 7. The exchange is for jerseys available in the Patriots ProShop only and is limited to one per person

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:56 pm

degenerasian wrote:Go get your free Tebow Jersey!!

I think they just want to get the Hernandez jerseys off the streets. Hilarious.

So all this stuff coming out now about what a horrible person he is, was any of this known before? I never heard a bad thing about him, but he was suspended in college and I just don't follow college football. The guy clearly has anger and behavioral issues, but was this a well kept secret, or am I just oblivious?

bfj · Post by **bfj** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:27 pm

AussieDave wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I'm excited to hear new ESPN analyst Ray Lewis discuss this issue!

This guy makes Ray look like a rank amateur.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:21 am

The Sybian wrote:I think they just want to get the Hernandez jerseys off the streets. Hilarious.

So all this stuff coming out now about what a horrible person he is, was any of this known before? I never heard a bad thing about him, but he was suspended in college and I just don't follow college football. The guy clearly has anger and behavioral issues, but was this a well kept secret, or am I just oblivious?

As Charles Pierce wrote days ago:

Of course, we will have endless bloviating about what in Hernandez's "background" may have warned off the poor, misguided Patriots, had they only known, which I guarantee you they did. But, seriously, how are you supposed to "vet" a player so as to know whether he might get involved in killing a guy? Because he smoked some weed in college? Please, do not be stupid. Because of the "influences" around him while he was growing up? Please, do not go there at all.

But then he says it's the prevalence of guns. And he loses me.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:37 am

Though JOhn as I said to BSF earlier, its a difference between being raised around guns as a tool for hunting, etc. and growing up in the gun culture to "solve one's problems." Supposedly Lloyd was a target because he spoke some people at a club that Hernandez had a problem during previous trips to the club. If you are using guns to solve "problems" with people there is a problem.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:27 am

I can certainly get behind the notion that the dude wasn't raised with the correct respects for firearms. This picture tells me everything I need to know about how Aaron Hernandez and firearms interact. It's an iPhone selfshot taken when he was 19 at UF. (Which makes me ask "Who bought him that watch?") Also, apologies for the TMZ all over it, but they posted the photo.

But if you want to tell me that too many guns are at least partially to blame for this, please stop. Just because a lot of something that can kill you exists, doesn't mean it's the impetus for what makes you want to kill. The aforementioned attitude towards it all will certainly do that.

howard · Post by **howard** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:09 am

If that is a .45 in the photo, irony alert. (Lloyd was shot repeatedly by .45 slugs)

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:52 am

howard wrote:If that is a .45 in the photo, irony alert. (Lloyd was shot repeatedly by .45 slugs)

Yup. From 2 days ago:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... urder-case" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prosecution mentioned a Hernandez photo that has circulated on the Internet during the past 24 hours.

"There was a photo that was shown on the Internet of the defendant holding a Glock .45. That Glock -- there's good reason to believe the firearm that killed Mr. Lloyd was a Glock because the Glock has a rifling system that is different than most firearms," McCauley said.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:02 pm

Johnnie wrote:I can certainly get behind the notion that the dude wasn't raised with the correct respects for firearms. This picture tells me everything I need to know about how Aaron Hernandez and firearms interact. It's an iPhone selfshot taken when he was 19 at UF. (Which makes me ask "Who bought him that watch?") Also, apologies for the TMZ all over it, but they posted the photo.

But if you want to tell me that too many guns are at least partially to blame for this, please stop. Just because a lot of something that can kill you exists, doesn't mean it's the impetus for what makes you want to kill. The aforementioned attitude towards it all will certainly do that.

I think solely blaming the parents for not raising him with the correct respect for firearms would be just a 180 from the blaming the guns argument. If you dismiss the notion that guns are at least partially to blame, you can't shift it all onto his parents/family system.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:04 pm

I don't follow. What do you mean?

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:00 am

howard wrote:If that is a .45 in the photo, irony alert. (Lloyd was shot repeatedly by .45 slugs)

Oh, Doc...

ZMan · Post by **ZMan** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:32 am

Johnnie wrote:But if you want to tell me that too many guns are at least partially to blame for this, please stop. Just because a lot of something that can kill you exists, doesn't mean it's the impetus for what makes you want to kill. The aforementioned attitude towards it all will certainly do that.

I would have no problems with a law stating that if you plan on photographing yourself holding your gun, you're banned from owning a gun.

That pic tells me all I need to know about him..."Avoid at all Costs"

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:42 am

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:58 am

What the fuck does that even mean?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:10 pm

“Instead of cursing the darkness, light a candle.”

- Aaron Hernandez

Shrew · Post by **Shrew** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:48 pm

kranepool wrote:
Shrew wrote:I move to Attleboro and look what happens?
Do you have a sprawling estate too?

Yes, I am also mistaken for NFL tight ends because of my rather grand physique. I am just less murdery

I kind of forgot about the whole arrest thing on the day he was transported to prison. It took forever to get from one end of the town to the other with all the media.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:54 pm

Jerloma wrote:What the fuck does that even mean?

It's funny, because the quote is actually attributed to this conch shell not Aaron Hernandez:

ZMan · Post by **ZMan** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:41 pm

Jerloma wrote:What the fuck does that even mean?

He obviously didn't want Odin Lloyd to have any ideas. No brain? No ideas!

Post by **Sabo** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:10 am

The Bengals passed on drafting Aaron Hernandez because of concerns about his off-field shenanigans.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:41 am

Sabo wrote:The Bengals passed on drafting Aaron Hernandez because of concerns about his off-field shenanigans.

Eye. Rone. Eee.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:25 am

ZMan wrote:I would have no problems with a law stating that if you plan on photographing yourself holding your gun, you're banned from owning a gun.

What if you're 'Hernandezing'?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:36 am

Johnnie wrote:
ZMan wrote:I would have no problems with a law stating that if you plan on photographing yourself holding your gun, you're banned from owning a gun.
What if you're 'Hernandezing'?

I love the handcuffed version.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:44 pm

It took longer than many thought it would, but the story has finally gone full Tebow.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:08 pm

rass wrote:It took longer than many thought it would, but the story has finally gone full Tebow.

He drank in a bar as an underage freshman? Clearly he is a bad seed! Or is it the refusing to pay and suckerpunching the bouncer in the ear? What a dick.

teeteebee · Post by **teeteebee** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:33 am

howard wrote:
Sabo wrote:The Bengals passed on drafting Aaron Hernandez because of concerns about his off-field shenanigans.
Eye. Rone. Eee.

Annnnnnnnnd...the Bengals enter the equation.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2013 ... llegation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:03 am

teeteebee wrote:http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2013 ... llegation/

Leave Maurkice out of this!

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:39 am

I don't know if this has been answered anywhere...but he allegedly shot a dude in the face? And the guy lost an eye? And he wasn't charged by the police for that? Fuck the heck?

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:24 am

teeteebee wrote:
howard wrote:
Sabo wrote:The Bengals passed on drafting Aaron Hernandez because of concerns about his off-field shenanigans.
Eye. Rone. Eee.
Annnnnnnnnd...the Bengals enter the equation.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2013 ... llegation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So much stretching.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:25 am

There is no stretching required to make it hilarious that like, the day after Mike Brown said "oh yeah we knew he was a bad seed we wouldn't have touched him in any round, homeys don't play that" the news was "well, Mike, your safety was riding with him during one drive-by".

I'll lol.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:06 am

rass wrote:
teeteebee wrote:http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2013 ... llegation/
Leave Maurkice out of this!

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:25 am

I like that Jack Nicholson shirt.

And those dudes obviously didn't get those hats made in Korea. They look shitty.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:27 am

Also, this:

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:09 pm

Dion Lewis of the Browns, and the folks from Bristol are pissed that Carlos Ortiz apparently informed on Aaron Hernandez.

I don't understand people who think there is honor in not snitching on a murderer.

link

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:40 pm

I'll say that there is no honor in snitching when you helped to kill the guy and all you want is 10 instead of 30. Vastly different scenario when you are a bystander vs a co-conspirator.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:27 am

Anyone catch the ESPN multi-gasm between the Belichick presser, the Meyer presser, and Hernandez's court appearance?

Belichick made me chuckle. Never said his name once and kept reiterating to everyone in the press that he couldn't speak about "people in ongoing judicial cases" or something to the effect. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that Belichick went to the same "conduct after capture" course I did prior to my Iraq deployment. The non-answer answers he gives are excellent.

ETA

Wait, did he say his name exactly once? I think ESPN cut in a minute or so late.

Keg · Post by **Keg** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:42 am

Heard on the radio that Hernandez might be facing the death penalty. That would be insane...