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So Madison Cawthorn is gonna go all Eric Cartman, eh?
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Anytime some Con wants to suggest that America is a meritocracy, remember to point out that Madison Cawthorn:

* lost the ability to walk because he didn’t use a seat belt,
* didn’t get into his first choice of colleges,
* dropped out of college because he partied too hard,
* was credibly accused of multiple acts of sexual misconduct,
* bragged on social media about visiting Hitler’s summer home, something he described on his bucket list,
* bragged by lying on social media about being a world class athlete,
* tried to start a company that resulted in zero clients, zero employees, and zero revenues, and
* named said company after a white supremacist iconography.

And yet, despite all that, because he’s a straight white male, with literally no personal accomplishments of which to speak of,

Won a popularity contest to be in Congress.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:22 pm Anytime some Con wants to suggest that America is a meritocracy, remember to point out that Madison Cawthorn:

* lost the ability to walk because he didn’t use a seat belt,
* didn’t get into his first choice of colleges,
* dropped out of college because he partied too hard,
* was credibly accused of multiple acts of sexual misconduct,
* bragged on social media about visiting Hitler’s summer home, something he described on his bucket list,
* bragged by lying on social media about being a world class athlete,
* tried to start a company that resulted in zero clients, zero employees, and zero revenues, and
* named said company after a white supremacist iconography.

And yet, despite all that, because he’s a straight white male, with literally no personal accomplishments of which to speak of,

Won a popularity contest to be in Congress.
And defeated Democratic candidate Moe Davis...a retired Air Force Colonel who was the Lead Prosecutor at Guantanamo. By a lot (54%-42%).
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L-Jam3 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:22 pm Anytime some Con wants to suggest that America is a meritocracy, remember to point out that Madison Cawthorn:

* lost the ability to walk because he didn’t use a seat belt,
* didn’t get into his first choice of colleges,
* dropped out of college because he partied too hard,
* was credibly accused of multiple acts of sexual misconduct,
* bragged on social media about visiting Hitler’s summer home, something he described on his bucket list,
* bragged by lying on social media about being a world class athlete,
* tried to start a company that resulted in zero clients, zero employees, and zero revenues, and
* named said company after a white supremacist iconography.

And yet, despite all that, because he’s a straight white male, with literally no personal accomplishments of which to speak of,

Won a popularity contest to be in Congress.
His buddy fell asleep at the wheel, approximately 3 hours into a 12 hour drive back to Asheville? Yeah, I’m sure there’s nothing to see there at all.
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We decided to take a vacation election week to get out of Texas and take our minds off the whole things. A) totally didn't work and B) we stayed smack dab in the middle of that mutherfucker's district.
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Giff wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:59 pm We decided to take a vacation election week to get out of Texas and take our minds off the whole things. A) totally didn't work and B) we stayed smack dab in the middle of that mutherfucker's district.
His district is so nice though.
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Lauren Boebert just set off the metal detectors at the Capitol and refused to get swiped by police. When is that ok?? It’s ridiculous.

How long before this Qanon nut uses it?
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This gotta be good for the dems, right?


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If actual media companies could treat Ted Cruz the way Seth Rogen is, that'd be greeeaaaattt.

Seth Rogen Goes On a Tear Against Ted Cruz Over Capitol Mob: ‘You’re a F*cking Fascist, Shut Up and Go Away’
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The scary thing....I wouldn't be at all surprised if she won.
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It's Arkansas. She's going to win.
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Easy win.
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Very disappointed way to start Monday. Trump is going to get away with everything and win in 2024 if he runs isn’t he?

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I doubt Dens have much of a chance, but.

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psunate77 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:16 am Very disappointed way to start Monday. Trump is going to get away with everything and win in 2024 if he runs isn’t he?

Wow, what a fucking lame copout by SCOTUS. While it might be moot wrt Trump, it is an incredibly important question to answer to set precedence for future Presidents. This just gives a green light to the next wannabe oligarch to cash in on the Presidency, since it takes more than 4 years to get the case decided. Not to mention, the issue of all the lost revue to Trump competitors who lost money due to Trump cashing in on his power as President. I don't know if the cases would have done anything to divest ill gotten profits or just prevent future abuses, so that argument may not hold any water. Just lame to drag that case out until it's no longer relevant. Curious what they would have done if Trump were reelected. Couldn't drag it out for another 4 years, so they probably would have found some miniscule technicality to say there was a lack of standing so they could avoid hearing the matter.
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Portman abandoning his seat in 2022.
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mister d wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:46 am Portman abandoning his seat in 2022.
Get ready for Sen. Jim Jordan.
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He would really get statewide support?
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mister d wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:46 am Portman abandoning his seat in 2022.
I could see John Kasich jumping in on this...
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This was far closer to the response I was hoping for.
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Maybe LeBron will retire and run for the seat
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mister d wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:50 am He would really get statewide support?
Unfortunately, yes.
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The Sybian wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:15 am
psunate77 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:16 am Very disappointed way to start Monday. Trump is going to get away with everything and win in 2024 if he runs isn’t he?

Wow, what a fucking lame copout by SCOTUS. While it might be moot wrt Trump, it is an incredibly important question to answer to set precedence for future Presidents. This just gives a green light to the next wannabe oligarch to cash in on the Presidency, since it takes more than 4 years to get the case decided. Not to mention, the issue of all the lost revue to Trump competitors who lost money due to Trump cashing in on his power as President. I don't know if the cases would have done anything to divest ill gotten profits or just prevent future abuses, so that argument may not hold any water. Just lame to drag that case out until it's no longer relevant. Curious what they would have done if Trump were reelected. Couldn't drag it out for another 4 years, so they probably would have found some miniscule technicality to say there was a lack of standing so they could avoid hearing the matter.
There is now no doubt now Trump will use this as his defense at impeachment and he won’t come close to a conviction. Really gotta wonder if this is why Mitch wanted the hearing pushed back. He can also use this to unite the Repubs and Trump.
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Realistically, there really wasn't time to get a full hearing together prior to the 20th.

I think, for some reason, a lot of people feel like more time passed from the 6th to the actual inauguration. I heard multiple newscasters talk about the timeframe as "weeks" which to many ears can be 3-4. Gayle King on CBS repeatedly cited 3 weeks have passed until (thankfully) someone on set stepped in and reminded/corrected that it was only two weeks.

You basically have to discount the week it happened... a lot of those lawmakers were in legit shock... And then you have a lot of moving parts getting ready for the change of power in the Senate.

So, no... I don't think there was some big nefarious plot to delay things. It just wasn't going to happen in the 10 day window with everything going on.
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Also, I can't imagine a non-ruling on the Emoluments Clause cases having any bearing on the outcome of the impeachment trial.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Yeah, I didn't really want to get into that.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:33 pm Also, I can't imagine a non-ruling on the Emoluments Clause cases having any bearing on the outcome of the impeachment trial.
Their non-ruling was due to him not being in office anymore, this will be his same defense in the impeachment. The US has never impeached a non-standing President. Repubs will use this as an excuse not to convict him. It's a total waste of time to even have the hearing. He isn't going to get convicted.
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psunate77 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:03 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:33 pm Also, I can't imagine a non-ruling on the Emoluments Clause cases having any bearing on the outcome of the impeachment trial.
Their non-ruling was due to him not being in office anymore, this will be his same defense in the impeachment. The US has never impeached a non-standing President. Repubs will use this as an excuse not to convict him. It's a total waste of time to even have the hearing. He isn't going to get convicted.
Unless some damning evidence comes out in the next few weeks, I don't think there is a chance he gets convicted, but it does force Republican Senators, on the record, to either side with Trump and defend his calls for insurrection or stand against him and support defending Democracy, so that is very valuable.
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I don't think there was ever a chance they'd convict Trump in the Senate. Republicans will skirt the issue by saying it doesn't matter now that he's not president any more and they just want us all to heal now.
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Looks like Ron Johnson is considering retiring as well.

I hope Dems have a good candidate in line. Johnson, Burr, Tommey seats are winnable.

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/01/25 ... onsin.html
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I don’t know who this guy is. But hopefully he wins.



And it’s amazing what a 1.3b dollar lawsuit will do to you.

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No, it's amazing what happens when someone stops paying you to lie.
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What he said.

Plus, it's really said in a "We tried to ratfuck as hard as possible, but couldn't come through and in the end we lost only because we ran out of time" kind of way.

He isn't suddenly enlightened.
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Yeah, saying "Biden is the President now" is maybe ten percent of what's needed.

Another sixty percent is "And he legitimately won the election."

And the last thirty percent is "And we're sorry we lied about that."
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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We’re going to disagree again, but “an apology” isn’t 100% of what I think is needed from Giuliani.
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Really hope at his trial he demands trial by combat.
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Democratic Senators Manchin and Sinema are assholes.

Dems gotta figure out how to get DC and Puerto Rico statehood to get two more Senate seats. This has been talked about but I believe DC is going to be difficult.
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psunate77 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:09 am Democratic Senators Manchin and Sinema are assholes.
Their voters are, anyway.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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