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Holy shit, man. That story is nuts.
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If all that is true, Gaetz (and the tax collector) are going to jail for a very long time.
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Or until they’re pardoned in early 2025.
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How would you bulletproof a case like that? Like, only charge him with some crimes for now, until he’s pardoned, and then charge him for more at a later date?
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mister d wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 am Or until they’re pardoned in early 2025.
This. I know it's only been a couple months, but if the Trump Crime Family isn't going to get in trouble for any of the things they did while running a presidential administration, then nothing actually matters.

The SF86 shit with Jared and Ivanka alone is grounds for some sort of investigation now that there's a new AG under Biden. Along with the Hatch Act violations along the way from others.
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That whole Twitter thread is a giant holy shit. I Googled Joel Greenberg, and the MSM is ALL over this story. Can't wait to dig in to this one. Suddenly makes sense why Gaetz was the one House Member to vote against the human trafficking bill.
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The Sybian wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:45 pm Suddenly makes sense why Gaetz was the one House Member stupid enough to vote against the human trafficking bill.
Fixed.

It's not comforting that the only thing between democracy and a full-blown fascist, white, ethno-state is that these mf'ers are so fucking stupid.

Being the only person to vote against a trafficking bill when you know that you're... trafficking? Like who ties your shoes in the morning?
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I can only imagine how the Q folks are twisting in the wind.
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We've said that a lot the last 4 years... Kind of hammers home the point that people that are inclined towards racism/fascism/etc are typically not that bright.
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The depths still astound me.
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Similarly, I worry the next time a pseudo-populist has the same sway as Trump and isn't a lazy fucking idiot.
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P.D.X. wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:14 pmLike who ties your shoes in the morning?
Probably not his girlfriends
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The

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What the fuck are those second things because they sure as hell aren't pull-ups.
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Twitter says it’s some weird CrossFit shit.
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I'll let Johnnie speak with authority on it, but I doubt those would even count in Crossfit.
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Chest to bar CrossFit pull ups. They count for CrossFit.

These are of the "butterfly" variety.
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It just gets deeper for Gaetz...



And for journalist Matt Gertz...

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And now let's add some ecstasy!

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From Mother Jones in 2019:

Why is Matt Gaetz Defending Katie Hill?
Not many of Hill’s Democratic colleagues have stepped forward with full-throated defenses of the 32-year-old member of Congress. But Gaetz did. Last week, as the allegations were unfolding, he tweeted: “Who among us would look perfect if every ex leaked every photo/text?”
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Pruitt wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:18 am From Mother Jones in 2019:

Why is Matt Gaetz Defending Katie Hill?
Not many of Hill’s Democratic colleagues have stepped forward with full-throated defenses of the 32-year-old member of Congress. But Gaetz did. Last week, as the allegations were unfolding, he tweeted: “Who among us would look perfect if every ex leaked every photo/text?”
IIRC, Hill also defended Gaetz when stories about Nestor first started circulating.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Not to bury Katie Hill, but "don't fuck your subordinates" is a pretty bright-line rule.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:06 am Not to bury Katie Hill, but "don't fuck your subordinates" is a pretty bright-line rule.
Yup. I’m seeing a lot of complaining online about how it was unfair that she was forced to resign for nude photos. Yeah, that’s not what happened.

I wish she hadn’t resigned, though. She had won a mostly red seat, and now it’s gone back to the Republicans.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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L-Jam3 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:06 am Not to bury Katie Hill, but "don't fuck your subordinates" is a pretty bright-line rule.
Yes it is...but she was also a victim of her ex circulating 'Revenge Porn' to various right wing websites.
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Johnnie wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:07 am And now let's add some ecstasy!

odds his venmo notes say "hot teenage sex" or some such?
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brian wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:04 am
That's great.
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These Text Messages Pointed the Feds to Matt Gaetz
In late January 2020, U.S. Secret Service agents received information that Rep. Matt Gaetz had accompanied a Florida county tax official they were already investigating on an unusual nighttime visit to a government office—where the local official was allegedly making fake IDs, a source close to the investigation told The Daily Beast.

That tip to the feds came in a text message conversation that Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg had with an employee explaining why they were both in the office one weekend two years earlier, according to this person.

A timestamp visible in the text message thread indicated the conversation took place on Monday, April 16, 2018.

According to three people with direct knowledge of the incident: Greenberg visited the Lake Mary, Florida branch of his tax collection agency that weekend. Grainy surveillance footage captured Greenberg standing near a manager’s desk with another man. Greenberg forgot to set the alarm on the way out, which concerned the assistant branch manager when she walked into the office Monday morning. That employee was surprised to find that driver licenses—which are normally turned in when expired at the tax office for shredding—were scattered all over the desk instead of in the appropriate disposal basket. She reviewed the camera footage and alerted her boss, who in turn contacted Greenberg via text.

“Did you happen to visit the Lake Mary Office on the weekend?” the text message read.

The image obtained by The Daily Beast shows that Greenberg allegedly responded: “Yes I was showing congressman Gaetz what our operation looked like. Did I leave something on?”
When doing illegal stuff....you should really clean up after yourself. Geez....what idiots...
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:14 am These Text Messages Pointed the Feds to Matt Gaetz
In late January 2020, U.S. Secret Service agents received information that Rep. Matt Gaetz had accompanied a Florida county tax official they were already investigating on an unusual nighttime visit to a government office—where the local official was allegedly making fake IDs, a source close to the investigation told The Daily Beast.

That tip to the feds came in a text message conversation that Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg had with an employee explaining why they were both in the office one weekend two years earlier, according to this person.

A timestamp visible in the text message thread indicated the conversation took place on Monday, April 16, 2018.

According to three people with direct knowledge of the incident: Greenberg visited the Lake Mary, Florida branch of his tax collection agency that weekend. Grainy surveillance footage captured Greenberg standing near a manager’s desk with another man. Greenberg forgot to set the alarm on the way out, which concerned the assistant branch manager when she walked into the office Monday morning. That employee was surprised to find that driver licenses—which are normally turned in when expired at the tax office for shredding—were scattered all over the desk instead of in the appropriate disposal basket. She reviewed the camera footage and alerted her boss, who in turn contacted Greenberg via text.

“Did you happen to visit the Lake Mary Office on the weekend?” the text message read.

The image obtained by The Daily Beast shows that Greenberg allegedly responded: “Yes I was showing congressman Gaetz what our operation looked like. Did I leave something on?”
When doing illegal stuff....you should really clean up after yourself. Geez....what idiots...
And not put in writing that your US Congressman friend was with you.
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The Sybian wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:31 amAnd not put in writing that your US Congressman friend was with you.
Yeah, pretty transparent humblebrag.
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That Boehner clip is gold!
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Fuck Boehner. Fucking piece of shit lowlife.
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Johnnie wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:03 pm Fuck Boehner. Fucking piece of shit lowlife.
Speaking of lowlifes...



So...."The Snitch"? My first thought was Sarah Palin.
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My guess was that this was all Florida politics, and the snitch was Pam Bondi.
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govmentchedda wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:15 pm My guess was that this was all Florida politics, and the snitch was Pam Bondi.
Yeah...that makes sense.

When do we get the report on the other politicians playing along?
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Johnnie wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:01 pm
mister d wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:51 am Or until they’re pardoned in early 2025.
This. I know it's only been a couple months, but if the Trump Crime Family isn't going to get in trouble for any of the things they did while running a presidential administration, then nothing actually matters.

The SF86 shit with Jared and Ivanka alone is grounds for some sort of investigation now that there's a new AG under Biden. Along with the Hatch Act violations along the way from others.
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