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Re: Bourbon

Post by The Sybian » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:32 pm

teeteebee wrote:Have an unopened bottle of Angels Envy, been sitting there for months. Heard great things.

Might be time...
Tried it once. It is finished in port casks, so it tasted like desert drink.

Currently following AB's advice and drinking bourbon and ginger beer. Fentiman's ginger beer is something special. Great drink.
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Post by A_B » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:49 am

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teeteebee wrote:Have an unopened bottle of Angels Envy, been sitting there for months. Heard great things.

Might be time...
Tried it once. It is finished in port casks, so it tasted like desert drink.

Currently following AB's advice and drinking bourbon and ginger beer. Fentiman's ginger beer is something special. Great drink.
Glad to help! I like that drink a lot too.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by The Sybian » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:47 pm

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teeteebee wrote:Have an unopened bottle of Angels Envy, been sitting there for months. Heard great things.

Might be time...
Tried it once. It is finished in port casks, so it tasted like desert drink.

Currently following AB's advice and drinking bourbon and ginger beer. Fentiman's ginger beer is something special. Great drink.
Glad to help! I like that drink a lot too.
You are my bourbon guru. Will definitely be getting more ginger beer. Fentimans is great, but I couldn't drink more than one bottle of it. Ginger and juniper were too much by the end. So good, though. Haven't had a mixed drink in a ling time.
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Re: Bourbon

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The Sybian wrote:
AB_skin_test wrote:
The Sybian wrote:
teeteebee wrote:Have an unopened bottle of Angels Envy, been sitting there for months. Heard great things.

Might be time...
Tried it once. It is finished in port casks, so it tasted like desert drink.

Currently following AB's advice and drinking bourbon and ginger beer. Fentiman's ginger beer is something special. Great drink.
Glad to help! I like that drink a lot too.
You are my bourbon guru. Will definitely be getting more ginger beer. Fentimans is great, but I couldn't drink more than one bottle of it. Ginger and juniper were too much by the end. So good, though. Haven't had a mixed drink in a ling time.
i like regatta. doesnt have as much of a bite as fentimans.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by A_B » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:53 pm

So I tried some Old Tub Bourbon the other night. It is apparently the "original" Jim beam recipe but I am always skeptical of those types of claims and figure it is more for marketing than anything else.

I did think it was really really good. Definitely reminiscent of Jim Beam, but different enough to notice. Basically an upscale Jim Beam, which is fine by me. Jim Beam is one of my home "well" bourbons. Which means it's cheap enough for me to buy regularly but isn't total shit. Let the record show that I also enjoy Old Fitzgerald, so while I can certainly enjoy a good bourbon, I am by no means a snob.

Really, the only bourbons I avoid are: Maker's Mark - not my bag; Wild Turkey - way better 101s out there (specifically Knob Creek); Four Roses - though the single barrel is decent; and Buffalo Trace - which is odd because their "premium bourbons" are very very good and Eagle Rare is a favorite of mine and is just Buffalo Trace aged longer and the pappy is from the same place)

Received a bottle of Smooth Ambler Old Scout Rye (not a bourbon) from a photographer I use a lot. Looking forward to trying it out. 99 Proof. Will report back.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by P.D.X. » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:15 pm

Yo, bourbon dogs. We're doing a tasting at our office on Friday and I need to bring a bottle. Any recommendations for something good and not terribly common for ~$30?

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Re: Bourbon

Post by Jerloma » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:18 pm

I drink Makers or Knob Creek (both excellent) but I'd probably defer to someone else for something more unique.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by mister d » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 pm

Does Hudson make its way out west? It'll cost around $30 but its a smaller bottle.
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Post by BSF21 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:23 pm

P.D.X. wrote:Yo, bourbon dogs. We're doing a tasting at our office on Friday and I need to bring a bottle. Any recommendations for something good and not terribly common for ~$30?
Bakers, Basil Haydens, Elijah Craig 18 might be around that price point, maybe a bit expensive. We have a nice one available here local called William Henry Harrison but it may not be widely available.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by Sabo » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:31 pm

If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
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Post by brian » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:35 pm

Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
Unless you've been given an explicit price cap, this is probably the way to go. Baller move. (Only like 10 percent joking.) Always best to splurge a little on these work type things. Better to be thought extravagant than cheap or unoriginal.
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Post by P.D.X. » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:39 pm

It's pretty informal. Just a handful of us doing it, rather than a sanctioned "company" thing. If I go the nicer bottle route it'll be because I want something quality to go home with me.

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Post by Jerloma » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:45 pm

Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
How do you pronounce that?
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Re: Bourbon

Post by brian » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:02 pm

Jerloma wrote:
Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
How do you pronounce that?
It's just "bullet".
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Re: Bourbon

Post by Bensell » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:15 pm

brian wrote:
Jerloma wrote:
Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
How do you pronounce that?
It's just "bullet".
Although you can call it Boo-lay if you are feeling douchey
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Re: Bourbon

Post by mister d » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:15 pm

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Post by Jerloma » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:18 pm

Bensell wrote:
brian wrote:
Jerloma wrote:
Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
How do you pronounce that?
It's just "bullet".
Although you can call it Boo-lay if you are feeling douchey
No, I'm happy. Exactly the scenario I was trying to avoid.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by The Sybian » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:22 pm

P.D.X. wrote:It's pretty informal. Just a handful of us doing it, rather than a sanctioned "company" thing. If I go the nicer bottle route it'll be because I want something quality to go home with me.
Find a mini shawl neck sweater to put on the bottle.

Bring a bottle of Elmer T. Lee. BSF named some good ones, but they are all in the high $40s or $50s here.
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Post by sancarlos » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:25 pm

Blanton's is great bourbon and has a cool bottle. I am also a big fan of Booker's.
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Post by govmentchedda » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:33 pm

sancarlos wrote:Blanton's is great bourbon and has a cool bottle. I am also a big fan of Booker's.
Blanton's is great, but it's gotten pricey in the last few years. IIRC, it's between 40 and 50 for a fifth.
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Post by cerrano » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:59 pm

Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
thirded.

also a fan of the four roses single barrel. probably around $35
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Post by A_B » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:33 am

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Sabo wrote:If you don't mind going into the $40 bracket, the 10-year Bulleit is an excellent bourbon.
thirded.

also a fan of the four roses single barrel. probably around $35

If you're gonna buy Four Roses (which I wouldn't recommended, presonally) then the Single Barrel is the way to go.
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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:33 pm

The line-up:

Hudson Baby Bourbon
Four Roses Small Batch
Redemption High Rye
Redemption Straight Bourbon
Woodford Reserve
Elijah Craig 12 Year
Bulleit
Corner Creek

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Post by A_B » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:35 pm

If it ain't kentucky, it's crap.
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Post by mister d » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:44 pm

In hindsight, you should have gotten a garbage brand as a control for the group.
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Post by The Sybian » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:34 pm

P.D.X. wrote:The line-up:

Hudson Baby Bourbon
Four Roses Small Batch
Redemption High Rye
Redemption Straight Bourbon
Woodford Reserve
Elijah Craig 12 Year
Bulleit
Corner Creek
The results?

I had Bulleit for the first time at my office holiday party. Despite ordering it neat, it came with a full glass of ice. I quickly scooped out the ice, but wasn't a fan. My friend told me it is a completely different drink neat, so I ordered another (can't beat an open bar with quality booze). Amazing how much better it was warm. Not one of my favorites, but pretty good. I feel like it would make a great Manhattan though. The price is usually surprisingly low, so probably one of the best values on the shelf if you don't want to pay much.
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Post by P.D.X. » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:42 pm

Maker's 46 showed up late, and was the unanimous winner.

The worst was Hudson Baby Bourbon.

Everything else in the middle was pretty close, and really came down to personal preference. As for Bulleit, I went back to it after trying everything and I could find nothing to complain about. It stacks up pretty well.

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Post by mister d » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:51 pm

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Post by P.D.X. » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:13 pm

Some dingus brought a bottle of Redemption Rye, which of course no one liked (except me, because I like rye, even though it doesn't work well up against bourbons) so I may just walk home with it.

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Post by Pruitt » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:50 pm

Just learning to appreciation quality bourbon - grew up referring to whiskeys like Old Turkey as "liquid violence."

Guy at the liquor store recommended Woodford Reserve and it is great stuff.
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Post by The Sybian » Thu May 07, 2015 10:55 am

Since it isn't my dime, I tried the most expensive Bourbon on the menu. Widow Jane. It is the smoothest bourbon I've ever had, but not the best or most flavorful. Awesome stuff, but not worth the money IMO. It is typically the same price for a 375 ml bottle as decent bourbons go for 750 ml. It is made in Brooklyn, so AB will probably have a problem with it. Long story short, if you can expense it, go for it. If not, not worth it.

Been working on a bottle of Blanton's at home. Fucking love it. So good. I really like AB's ginger beer with Bourbon, but Blanton's tastes too good to mix.
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Post by A_B » Thu May 07, 2015 10:59 am

Yeah, blanton's doesn't need a mixer. I put ginger beer/ale in my cheap weekend bourbon, not good drinking bourbon. That gets rocks or just a splash of water.

And I actually don't mind NY making bourbons because they have the limestone water to make it right as well. I would like to try that one for sure.
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Post by The Sybian » Thu May 07, 2015 11:01 am

AB_skin_test wrote:Yeah, blanton's doesn't need a mixer. I put ginger beer/ale in my cheap weekend bourbon, not good drinking bourbon. That gets rocks or just a splash of water.

And I actually don't mind NY making bourbons because they have the limestone water to make it right as well. I would like to try that one for sure.
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Post by A_B » Thu May 07, 2015 11:04 am

My preference will always be for Kentucky Bourbon, but I'm not going to turn my nose up at good whiskey! One of my favorite is Westward from Oregon. It's more like a scotch, but i think it holds up against most every scotch I've had.
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Post by govmentchedda » Thu May 07, 2015 11:34 am

Isn't it not bourbon if it's not from Kentucky, or am I just thinking of champagne?
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Post by BSF21 » Thu May 07, 2015 11:36 am

govmentchedda wrote:Isn't it not bourbon if it's not from Kentucky, or am I just thinking of champagne?
Bourbon must be at least 51% corn and aged in new charred oak barrels. The idea that it must be made in KY is a misnomer.
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Post by sancarlos » Thu May 07, 2015 11:37 am

govmentchedda wrote:Isn't it not bourbon if it's not from Kentucky, or am I just thinking of champagne?
Yeah. If it's not from Kentucky, you have to call it Sparkling Whiskey.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by mister d » Thu May 07, 2015 11:42 am

You think champagne comes from Kentucky? Fucking redneck.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by A_B » Thu May 07, 2015 11:47 am

Yeah, the Kentucky bourbon com[anies are usually careful to put Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey on there for marketing, but new barrels is the main thing.
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Re: Bourbon

Post by mister d » Thu May 07, 2015 12:02 pm

I got to try Pappy about a month ago and I'm pretty insecure about whether or not I would have known how good it was. Like it was smoother, but would I have known that without knowing it? You know?
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