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Post by MaxWebster » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:29 pm

quickly reading that my brain dictated: "ClubFoot Montreal"

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Post by mister d » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:30 pm

I like it. Definite upgrade.
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Post by The Sybian » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:27 pm

mister d wrote:
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I like it. Definite upgrade.
Meh, the new logo lost their Impact.
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The Sybian wrote:
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mister d wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:30 pm
I like it. Definite upgrade.
Meh, the new logo lost their Impact.
Looks like the entire club did

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Post by Baloney » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:49 am

Wayne Rooney is Derby's new manager officially.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55646923

Now can we get the takeover done before the transfer window shuts

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:25 am

Baloney wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:49 am
Wayne Rooney is Derby's new manager officially.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55646923

Now can we get the takeover done before the transfer window shuts
Is he any good at managing? He always struck me as a knucklehead. Though I guess he was a lot younger then.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Steve of phpBB wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:25 am
Baloney wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:49 am
Wayne Rooney is Derby's new manager officially.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55646923

Now can we get the takeover done before the transfer window shuts
Is he any good at managing? He always struck me as a knucklehead. Though I guess he was a lot younger then.
He's a knucklehead about things that aren't soccer. When it's all you've done your whole life it may be easier to not be a knucklehead about that.
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Post by Baloney » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:35 am

He's done OK since he took over from Cocu but it's hardly a body of work, time will tell

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Post by wlu_lax6 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:47 pm

The impression I got from his time at DC was he was a player-coach and the players benefited from it. But I am not sure making him the Gaffer will prevent Derby from playing Blackpool next year.

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Post by govmentchedda » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:35 pm

Spent a lot of yesterday on the couch like so many Sundays of my past, except this time without a hangover. What to think of Barcelona? The Supercopa was played (Barca v. Athletic (not Atletico)). Two teams that take their identity seriously, one even more so than the other. Bilbao will only sign players with Basque heritage, or those who have come up through Basque youth systems. It was a pretty entertaining game held at a stadium in Seville that was not the home stadium of either Sevilla or Betis. The in place of fans signage was half in arabic, featuring Saudi companies, and the distance from the stands to the pitch was such that there was room for a full running track. Barca went up 1-0 late in the first half, Athletic tied it shortly thereafter. Barca went up 2-1 in the second half, Athletic tied it again shortly thereafter. The match went to the two full 15 minute periods of A.E.T. and Iñaki Williams scored an absolute worldie to put the Basque side up 3-2. Barca pressed a bunch after, and had a lot of chances, but couldn't bring it back level. Messi was sent off with a straight red that somewhat liked he punched a player from behind. It's likely more of a couple of poorly designed slaps, but either way just abject stupidity from him. The craziest thing about it is that it was Messi's first red card in his 753 matches with Barcelona.

I took a two hour nap and cried during parks and Rec. it was awesome and terrifying.

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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:55 pm

Jordan Morris loaned to Swansea

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Jordan Morris loaned to Swansea
WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HIS DOG?
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Post by wlu_lax6 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:30 am

Another Brazil Soccer Team airplane crash. 4 players and club owner.

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Post by brian » Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:22 pm

The Club World Cup game today is a big deal in Mexico I can tell you.

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Post by wlu_lax6 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:14 pm

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The Club World Cup game today is a big deal in Mexico I can tell you.
First time a concacaf team has made the final right?

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Post by brian » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:41 pm

Soccer needs to do away with offsides beyond about 25 or so yards from the goal. An offsides at midfield is ridiculous.

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Post by wlu_lax6 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:46 pm

brian wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:41 pm
Soccer needs to do away with offsides beyond about 25 or so yards from the goal. An offsides at midfield is ridiculous.
I want to go the other way. Once the ball is below the 18, no offsides.

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Soccer needs to do away with offsides beyond about 25 or so yards from the goal. An offsides at midfield is ridiculous.
So you're saying NASL had it right, with a 35-yard line for offsides.

Shootouts were also more exciting and fairer than penalties.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by HaulCitgo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:30 pm

Offsides could only be a made up rule to address a particular problem (cherry picking?). Not sure how that could be a bigger problem than the ones it has caused.

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:42 pm

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Offsides could only be a made up rule to address a particular problem (cherry picking?). Not sure how that could be a bigger problem than the ones it has caused.
I do think it'd be worth doing away with offsides entirely in one of the lower leagues, just to see how it changes the game.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by Nonlinear FC » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:44 pm

I mean, it's a fundamental part of the game. I don't mind bringing the line down to 35 yards, as long as it's clearly marked. I don't like the idea of doing away with it below the 18, because now you're just going to be actively fucking with GK like hockey. It's a difficult enough job (large goal to cover) without having someone constantly posted up in your grill.

On this point, I'm surprised more teams don't fuck with GK on corner kicks. I HATED having someone impede me on those plays, and unless I specifically talked to the ref about it, teams that did it got away with it more the half the time.

ETA - And, wlu, I'm surprised teams didn't do more of this in that men's league up at the Plex. I've played on a few teams up there, and there was just one team that had figured this out and was in my business (by the rules) all night and it sucked.
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Post by Nonlinear FC » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:51 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
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Offsides could only be a made up rule to address a particular problem (cherry picking?). Not sure how that could be a bigger problem than the ones it has caused.
I do think it'd be worth doing away with offsides entirely in one of the lower leagues, just to see how it changes the game.
Kind of to my point above, I've played in leagues that do this and it would radically change the game. I'm not sure for the better.

For example, I'm defending and I know I can't let my mark get behind me. Guess what the natural response of the defending team is going to be: Packing the entire team from goal line to the 30 yard line. It's not like the defending team is just going to play like there's still an offsides rule.
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Post by HaulCitgo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:56 pm

Not everyone though. At least one stays very very high at all time right. Probably two. That would require the team in possession to keep at least two and probably three behind those players. Tons of space in between. Would require at least 2 more for some sort of balance. Maybe it wouldn't work but I'd like to see it too.

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Post by Nonlinear FC » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:02 pm

I'm just saying, it's not going to magically unlock the field.

And the GK union is going to insist on a crease of some kind where you can enter with the ball or be in there for a few seconds, but can't just camp out indefinitely. Waive it off on corners.
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Post by HaulCitgo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:05 pm

Great point. Feels like that's the problem. Guys camped out in the smaller box like every play is a corner. Could easily a box that can't be entered at all with the ball.

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Post by P.D.X. » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:09 pm

What problem is being solved with all this?

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Post by Steve of phpBB » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:12 pm

P.D.X. wrote:
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What problem is being solved with all this?
All the inconsistent offsides calls. (Which are not the officials' fault. Since it is literally impossible for an official to simultaneously look at the last defender *and* at the guy with the ball, of course many of these calls will turn out wrong.)
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.

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Post by brian » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:29 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:12 pm
P.D.X. wrote:
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What problem is being solved with all this?
All the inconsistent offsides calls. (Which are not the officials' fault. Since it is literally impossible for an official to simultaneously look at the last defender *and* at the guy with the ball, of course many of these calls will turn out wrong.)
That and also seems like it would open the game some to have an offsides line like in hockey. If you think of hockey and soccer as being similar in a lot of respects (they are), if it were possible to be offsides at any point on the ice, hockey would be kind of stupid and you'd miss a lot of exciting odd-man rushes/breakaways

ETA: I'm flexible on the location on the field, but I think anywhere around the 25-to-35 yards area would be the sweet spot for having a line behind which offsides wouldn't be illegal.

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Post by P.D.X. » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:43 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:12 pm
P.D.X. wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:09 pm
What problem is being solved with all this?
All the inconsistent offsides calls. (Which are not the officials' fault. Since it is literally impossible for an official to simultaneously look at the last defender *and* at the guy with the ball, of course many of these calls will turn out wrong.)
Do we still feel the calls are inconsistent with VAR?

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Post by HaulCitgo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:47 pm

Offside impedes the game. Whistle out of nowhere. Stop play. Free kick.

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Post by A_B » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:40 pm

HaulCitgo wrote:
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Offside impedes the game. Whistle out of nowhere. Stop play. Free kick.
And don’t get me started on fouls in basketball!
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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:17 am

The same as any infraction.

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Post by Pruitt » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:46 am

"Giant" on Spotify is a really good soccer podcast. Each story is about 20-25 minutes long.

Just listened to this one about Hearts in Scotland.

And You Think Your Team's Owner Is Bad...
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Post by HaulCitgo » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:11 am

Ya but always in the most exciting times of the game. Incisive pass behind lines. Comparing to american sports not the way. Just because it's good doesn't mean can't be better

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Post by P.D.X. » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:16 am

In your scenario, there are no incisive passes behind the line. Because there is no line. No through balls. Speed and smart, well-timed runs will be less of a factor. We'll go back to big, target-style forwards. Sounds exciting.

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Post by HaulCitgo » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:28 pm

Probably so. Doesn't sound like better. But maybe different movements and patterns.

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Freddy Adu signs with Sweedish 2nd division side Österlen FF.
Dude's in his 40s at this point. Good for him.
one of the guys on my company team ran into him this summer at the MD Soccerplex. He got some contact info to see if he wanted to join our company team (and only half joking about referring him for an analyst role at the company).
Well we may get a chance to have Freddy back on my corporate team...sounds bad..and yet similar to other Adu experiences.
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First ever entirely wooden stadium approved, for Forest Green Rovers


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