NCAA Tournament thread - Play-In games and Round of 64

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And if they hang on and win this game, in the next round they play the University of Florida Golfers.
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I don't understand how the tactical genius of Steve Fisher has not managed to adjust to FGCU. Gulf or Golf.
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Ooooop! It's impossible not to love the way this FGCU team plays. A joy to watch. One Billy Donovan better take these guys a whole lot of serious.
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Who are these guys? This is spectacular!
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Yup that game is on Friday at Cowboys Stadium! I think they'll be just a little pumped for that.
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These guys might have taken over my Missouri Valley (Wichita State, Creighton) bandwagon.

I love how much fun they are having. It's like hearing a band for the first time that you know is going to be your favorite for a long run.

I just hope they don't get caught up in the inevitable press praise. Don't believe the hype! If they stay grounded and loose like they are today, they'll fucking anyone.
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The good thing about this is that the University of Florida will now have to explain why it is not on ANY coast.
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Loved what Franklin did there. Congratulated Brown and pounded his chest.. "You go win this fucking thing now"
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Teaching America how to pronounce "Cvjeticanin".
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That was solid. Very solid.

Looking back at their season, they seem to play to the level of their opponents. They get up for big games; FGCU actually beat Miami The U back in November.

This current run, of course, is another story all together.
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C'mon, LaSalle; smarter LaPossessions and smarter LaShot selections.
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howard wrote:I don't understand how the tactical genius of Steve Fisher has not managed to adjust to FGCU. Gulf or Golf.
Well, you are talking about the guy who didn't stop his guys from chucking three-pointers on a windy day on an aircraft carrier.
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La Salle's coach always looks like he's grinding out a dookie.
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LaSalle eventually rewarded for a great defensive turn. OT coming methinks.
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Wow, big time drive, disdaining the big man. And getting Henderson the fuck out of this March, thank you for that.
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Mister D, I have a friend who has tickets he is trying to sell for Thursday and Saturday next week. He is holding them for me on your behalf, if you want them.

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Great LaSalle win. Marshall Henderson can now go back to his mommy's basement, don a grey hoodie to cover his face and stand in front of a mirror while lip-syncing Eminem's Lose Yourself into a sock.
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Safe to assume I'm the only one here who had their best NCAA experience happen today?



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mister d wrote:Safe to assume I'm the only one here who had their best NCAA experience happen today?



(DSafe, thanks and I'd love to, but there's no room in the move budget for that sort of trip. And I'd jinx it if I did.)
I figured that would be the case, but he mentioned trying to unload them last night and I figured I'd see if he could put a 24-hour hold on them. He likely won't have any issues selling them, anyway, since tOSU and Arizona are out here, as well as two mid-major schools who haven't advanced this far in a long time (Wichita State in 2006 and your guys in 1955 - I had no idea it was that long).
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And Illinois gets completely fucked by a hideously terrible call.
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Fuck, I hate seeing a game decided by idiotic refs. And, yes, there is an enormous difference between Illinois being tied (or up one) and being down four, with less than a minute to play. That was disgraceful; not even a close call, really.
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Scottie wrote:Fuck, I hate seeing a game decided by idiotic refs. And, yes, there is an enormous difference between Illinois being tied (or up one) and being down four, with less than a minute to play. That was disgraceful; not even a close call, really.
Yeah, and there was a very similar missed call at the end of one of the other games today, maybe tOSU - ISU?
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I don't think you can fault the officials for the OSU call (though the studio crew did). It was an incredibly close play, and even on review it looked to barely be conclusive. Not egregious at all, in my estimation.
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I only tangentially follow college basketball, and really only the University of Arizona. So, awesome Sweet 16 berth for them.

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That answers at least two questions. (1) Who is the University of Arizona band's bead player? And (2) Why shouldn't fat guys attempt butt rolls?
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Johnny Hotcakes wrote:I don't think you can fault the officials for the OSU call (though the studio crew did). It was an incredibly close play, and even on review it looked to barely be conclusive. Not egregious at all, in my estimation.
Yeah, I actually thought they were both close and both probably wrong. It happens though, particularly late in the game when guys are lunging at rebounds.
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Deadspin created a video of all of Florida Gulf Coast's postseason dunks. It's impressive, to say the least.

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Hey Mountain West Conference! If you really want to be considered one of the big boy conferences, you can't completely miss the Sweet Sixteen.
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I've seen that a bunch of places, saying the BCS is proven better because the Mountain West and A-10 combined for 10 bids and 1 Sweet 16 team, but it sort of ignores that those two conferences only had two teams seeded 1-4. They underperformed by 1. Big East had 4 teams 1-4 and passed 3 into the Sweet 16. They underperformed by 1.
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Sabo wrote:Deadspin created a video of all of Florida Gulf Coast's postseason dunks. It's impressive, to say the least.

http://deadspin.com/dunk-city-heres-all ... -458654269" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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It's weird that they are dunking on everybody yet, if you moved the rims up to 10'4", none of them look like they'd be able to dunk.
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mister d wrote:I've seen that a bunch of places, saying the BCS is proven better because the Mountain West and A-10 combined for 10 bids and 1 Sweet 16 team, but it sort of ignores that those two conferences only had two teams seeded 1-4. They underperformed by 1. Big East had 4 teams 1-4 and passed 3 into the Sweet 16. They underperformed by 1.
I don't think we're grading on a curve here. All year, the talk has been about how the Mountain West was better than most of the power conferences this year. Weren't they the number 1 conference according to the RPI? When a power conference misses the Sweet Sixteen, it's notable. If you're trying to establish yourself as a major player, it's kind of a big deal.

I didn't hear such talk about the A-10, but maybe it was out there too.

BTW, my criticism is less of the MWC or A10 than of the various media folk who love to jump on the new hotness. Consistently performing at the highest levels is HARD. It doesn't happen overnight.
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My point is we should be grading on a curve. The Big East is 6-5 as a conference and has three Sweet 16 teams, but that should be seen as a disappointment for a conference given four top 4 bids, two more in the 5-8 range and two below. 10-4 with four teams still alive was the expectation out of that seeding and they underperformed it.
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Most who touted the MWC's #1 RPI rating also mentioned that because it has a smaller number of teams, there isn't a ton of dreck at the bottom to bring it down.
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mister d wrote:My point is we should be grading on a curve. The Big East is 6-5 as a conference and has three Sweet 16 teams, but that should be seen as a disappointment for a conference given four top 4 bids, two more in the 5-8 range and two below. 10-4 with four teams still alive was the expectation out of that seeding and they underperformed it.
I see that as two different conversations.

One is simply overall strength. The Big Ten was perceived by most as the top conference this year, and getting 4 teams in the Sweet 16 is confirmation of that. Even if they'd only gotten three, which is fewer than their seeds should have warranted, they still would be the strongest league left.

How a conference performs relative to expectations, high or low, is a different thing. In this argument, weak leagues pretty much can't lose and it's very hard for power conferences to win (you can't overperform as a 1 seed). It's a good argument to have, but it really only makes sense when you're comparing leagues with comparable seeds.
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What's weirder, that Doug McDermott's NCAA career has eclipsed that of Harrison Barnes, or that Brett Comer's NCAA career has eclipsed Austin Rivers'?
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I think the MWC deserves some accolades. It's top isn't at the level of the Big Ten or Big East, but it's bottom is stronger than the majority of conferences. And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.
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sancarlos wrote:I think the MWC deserves some accolades. It's top isn't at the level of the Big Ten or Big East, but it's bottom is stronger than the majority of conferences. And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.
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sancarlos wrote:And anyway, judging on the basis of a small sample of games is similar to judging a baseball or hockey team that had a very fine regular season but lost in the playoffs. Any sabermetrics guy will note that this happens regularly.
Its true, but there's the problem of never having a good sample size in college basketball. Schedules are too divergent during the regular season and rosters turn over so you can't really aggregate years, so the tourney is the best snapshot you're going to get.

(And, if you did want to aggregate years, you'd see the Big East consistently underperforms their seed.)
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