The Jurgen Klinsman Experience

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:57 pm

After watching Jermaine Jones at CB for 90 minutes last night in person... holy shit no this should not be a thing.

He had a ball early in the game that he put on Agudelo's foot from about 45 yards away that made me go "OK, maybe this has a chance of working," but after New England went up a goal it was a disaster. He marked Dwyer poorly on SKC's first goal, was scrambling all evening long and could have/should have gotten at least a yellow for all the wrestling he was having to do.

It's clear that NE wants to try to play out the back with JJ as the main distributor and I partially wonder if they're doing that in deference to the USMNT. Because I think they'd be easily the best team in the East if he sat in front of the back line (I had forgotten they have a rotation of Agudelo/Fagundez/Bunbury/Davies up top).

If the US wants to go to a back three (and I'm not sure they do) then I think he could be serviceable in a poor man's Busquets role. But as half of a CB pairing? No. No. No. No. No.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:58 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Shirley wrote:I wish the US had had THAT Bradley during the World Cup. He was clearly the best player on the field. Granted, those weren't true WC-quality squads, but still.
I think there's something to the idea that he's freed up a lot more without Dempsey on the field because Dempsey tends to drop so deep into the midfield.

Nope.

I just saw this. Care to expand?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:58 pm

Most the chances are going to the US in the first 24 minutes against the freaky deeky Dutch. Shea and Zardes should have finished there chances.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:59 pm

Yes I just typed that in....kiss of death

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:17 pm

Need more crowd shots.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:46 pm

P.D.X. wrote:Need more crowd shots.

damn, didn't realize this was on!

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:48 pm

The Sybian wrote:
P.D.X. wrote:Need more crowd shots.
damn, didn't realize this was on!

Neither did the U.S. in the 2nd half

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:52 pm

Broken record.

Nonlinear FC wrote:Some of you who are friends with me on Facebook might notice something I posted this afternoon, but I'll put it here, too:

I had a big, long (probably boring) post written in my head about Klinsmann, but I'll spare everyone. Here's the bottomline: If you go back to last April's 2-2 draw against Mexico through yesterday's loss to Denmark, the US has given up a lead in the second half 7 out of 16 games. Folks, I'm not a statistician, but I'm gonna go ahead and call that a pattern/trend.

These 7 games do not include, btw, the heartbreaking Belgium loss, where we got blown up in the first OT, or the recent ass kicking suffered in Dublin, where we were tied at halftime only to get run off the field in the second.

And, fine, let's say you think it's unfair to go back to last April. Let's just talk about from post-World Cup on. We have given up leads 5 of 8 games. (Again, not counting the Ireland game, which really is pretty much indicative of this second half collapse pattern.)

I was relatively happy with our World Cup results, but when you start to look at the book of work Klinsmann is developing... This is troubling.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:02 pm

We haven't given up a lead!

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:03 pm

P.D.X. wrote:We haven't given up a lead!

Yeah, it was more like Ireland.

With that said, I'm not a guy that's going to hope for my point to stand. If Holland is going to play bullshit defense, I'm happy for us to ring 'em up.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:17 pm

And there you have it!!!

Wow.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:18 pm

Welp.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:19 pm

HOLY SHIT!!

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:20 pm

I mean... I will take that every damn day all day...

But Jesus, the Dutch look fucking HORRIBLE in the back. Unreal.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:27 pm

Incredible

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:30 pm

Yes I turned it off at 3-2 with 25 minutes to play

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:30 pm

Undefeated in the post-FBI era!

(stole that from rex on the twitter)

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:37 pm

I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:41 pm

World Cup favorites!!!!!!!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:50 pm

I know it is just a friendly, but first time ever beating the Dutch, and I think I saw first time ever scoring more than 1 goal against them. Not too shabby.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:51 pm

mister d wrote:World Cup favorites!!!!!!!

Favorites? We already won 2018. It has been written. Jordan Morris wonder strike from 3 feet out, as he refuses to dare to Wondo.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:55 pm

tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.

I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.

But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:35 pm

That was the Bradley that people irrationally expect to see every game

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:57 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote:
tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.

I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.

But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.

I don't actually, because of Directv.

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:25 pm

tennbengal wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:
tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.

I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.

But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
I don't actually, because of Directv.

Actually, TB, you've had it for over three months.

That said, I just tried to access it and it wouldn't accept my email and password for DirecTV, which is not the case every month when I pay my bill.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:41 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote:
tennbengal wrote:
Nonlinear FC wrote:
tennbengal wrote:I can't believe I had to miss this. Also that I didn't DVR it. Hope espn replays it later.

I think I know the answer, but do you have access to ESPN3 or the Watch ESPN app? Pretty sure you can catch it there.

But, yeah, I'd be shocked if this isn't rerun on Classic or ESPN News or something tonight.
I don't actually, because of Directv.
Actually, TB, you've had it for over three months.

That said, I just tried to access it and it wouldn't accept my email and password for DirecTV, which is not the case every month when I pay my bill.

Worked for me earlier.

ETA: my credentials, not yours

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:03 am

Yikes, thanks for the heads up. Had totally missed that was now available for me.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:28 pm

Mix just equalized vs Ger.

Also, Bradley is playing out of his mind. Best player on the pitch so far.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:40 pm

Absolutely gorgeous.

And as good as Bradley has been, he's missed a few opps in the first half. He's been unreal good.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:29 pm

WOOOP!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:34 pm

Stunned.

And, fuck it, deserved. U.S. has been the better team.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:39 pm

Bobby Wood, nice week.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:43 pm

That was a fun way to spend the afternoon

Post by **brian** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:52 pm

Fire Jurgen!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:54 pm

Maybe they can add Bobby Wood to the Gold Cup pool now?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:15 am

RunDMB out of international retirement on the Gold Cup squad. Jurgen has made it a priority to not end up on a home and home series for the Confederation Cup.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:34 am

Fuck yeah. That shit was glorious to watch. Agree with tennb, the US were the better team in the second half, unquestionably.

I said it before, but to reiterate, I don't root against my team to prove some point I made is "right." I was concerned about shitting the bed in the second half... I no longer have that concern.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:38 am

Undefeated since bringing FIFA to its knees. We're probably bribing officials.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:11 am

I put this up on Facebook, but a lot of you losers aren't exposed to my brilliance on that platform:

The goal at the end of the first half featured 30 passes in a row, in stretch that lasted over 90 seconds.

We've done that a few times, most notably a game in the Confederations Cup, though I don't recall the opponent.

At any rate, it was a foreshadowing of what was to come in the second half. The US was more committed to the game, lulled the Germans into passivity and then struck with incisive runs and passes. It was about as good as I've ever seen the US play against a high quality opponent. And I don't want to hear all the crap about Germany's B team. Four years ago, we simply don't have the mentality or tactics to play the World Champions, on their soil, at that high a level.

I'm back to my early optimism regarding Klinsmann.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:35 pm

http://www.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/n ... ign=Unpaid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very detailed breakdown of the Diskerud goal. It's very good in terms of breaking down all of the off the ball stuff that made this play so incredible. Share this with people you know that want to try and understand the sophistication and complexity involved with the game at this level.