NBA Season 15-16

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Pruitt wrote:A definite longshot in the "First NBA Coach Fired" sweepstakes.

McHale out.

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He just signed a three year extension last December.
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I blame Lamar Odom.
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The Warriors are just stupid. And the Clips remain their bitch, despite Chris Paul's greatness.
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M&M had a couple of ridiculous stats this morning. So ridiculous I'm not sure they were correct, but I'm going to parrot them anyway.

1. Over the past [X] seasons (I missed the range getting into the car, maybe since Curry joined the league?) the Warriors have won 50% of the games where they have trailed by at least 20 points. The rest of the league has won just around 3% of such games in the same time period.

2. Curry could miss his next 108 three-pointers in a row and still have a better 3-pt shooting % this season than the player who currently has the second best such % in the league (Harden).
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rass wrote:2. Curry could miss his next 108 three-pointers in a row and still have a better 3-pt shooting % this season than the player who currently has the second best such % in the league (Harden).
This one's misquoted/wrong
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rass wrote:2. Curry could miss his next 108 three-pointers in a row and still have a better 3-pt shooting % this season than the player who currently has the second best such % in the league (Harden).
This one's misquoted/wrong
I think just saying "wrong" was there for you and would have hurt less.
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68/258 = .263 and change
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Harden is second in the league to Curry in points per game but is nowhere close to that high in % or 3PM. So it's kind of arbitrary to pick a guard who's off to a slow start shooting 3s to make that stat sound cool. It is true, however, that Curry thus far is having the best high usage/high efficiency season by a guard in league history. Possibly by any player, since some of the unstoppable high scoring big men never made 3s and were terrible at FTs.
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And that was the one they seemed to have researched, too. Stupid M&M. All I wanted was to hear the NFL score from last night and they HAD to talk NBA in their first segment.
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I think 70 wins is totally in play. Part of it is the natural improvement from being in year 2 of Kerr's system. I also think GSW was annoyed by the talk that they were "lucky" to avoid the Clippers or Spurs (even though GSW would've been sizable favorites against either team) and the media's fixation with lionizing LeBron during the Finals (even though he didn't actually play that well and was basically a higher scoring version of Rajon Rondo: triple-double machine but terribly inefficient shooter).

By the way, Mike & Mike was a particularly bad offender for driving the LeBron Finals hype train. They were too busy trying to promote TV ratings to acknowledge that by the end of Game 4, GSW had solved everything Cleveland could throw at that them, and would've probably won a 12-game series 10-2.
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This doesn't sound close to being right... unless the sample size is really small (10 or less).
rass wrote:M&M had a couple of ridiculous stats this morning. So ridiculous I'm not sure they were correct, but I'm going to parrot them anyway.

1. Over the past [X] seasons (I missed the range getting into the car, maybe since Curry joined the league?) the Warriors have won 50% of the games where they have trailed by at least 20 points. The rest of the league has won just around 3% of such games in the same time period.
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Vivek might be the most incompetent owner in all of pro sports. It's now being reported that he plans to make a massive offer to Calipari to replace Karl as head coach. I love what Calipari has done at Kentucky but I think he would fail miserably if he returned to the NBA. He's just not a great in-game coach and the track record of college coaches in the NBA is pretty brutal. It's too early to judge Hoiberg or Donovan but Brad Stevens is the only recent college coach who's successfully made the jump to the NBA. And the fact that Stevens took Butler to the Finals twice certainly makes me think that he was miles ahead of the typical college coach when it comes to in-game strategy.
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Joe K wrote:It's too early to judge Hoiberg or Donovan…
I think being a former pro player helps a lot, these two might have a better shot. Although playing experience in the association is no guarantee of coaching success.
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rass wrote:And that was the one they seemed to have researched, too. Stupid M&M. All I wanted was to hear the NFL score from last night and they HAD to talk NBA in their first segment.
Ya know, nowadays, you can get scores on your phone!

But, sadly, you could never get them from Sportsfrog.
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Feel like I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and it was all a dream and the Knicks traded down and took Kaminsky.
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Rex wrote:Feel like I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and it was all a dream and the Knicks traded down and took Kaminsky.
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I didn't think there was any chance in hell that Porzingis would already be one of the top-2 players from his class this early in his rookie season, but at this point you'd have to put him second behind Towns in the Rookie of the Year race. Okafor scores more points, but Porzingis has been a better defender, a better rebounder (surprisingly), and is a slightly more efficient shooter given that he is much better at the line and also starting to make 3s.
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I watched the Dubs take it to 15 last night and skipped what I gather was an excellent game tilt between the Bengals and Cards, and I totally think I made the right call. There wasn't really a point where it looked like they hit that points-tsunami that they run, and still I looked over and they were up by double digits and comfortably ahead. What a team.
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"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
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Rex wrote:"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
Yeah, he did not give off that vibe last year.
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Rex wrote:"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
Well, I hit 95mph on the Walt Whitman once.
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Rex wrote:"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
The Boston incident is pretty ugly, and will likely result in criminal charges for Okafor. There's a pretty big discrepancy between what Okafor claims happened (Massholes were heckling him and getting physical with his teammate Christian Wood) and what the guy he punched claims happened (Okafor tried to pick up the girls who were with his group and then flipped out when they shot him down). Not that either scenario justifies knocking a guy out cold, but if it was the latter it's a particularly bad look for Okafor.
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Joe K wrote:
Rex wrote:"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
The Boston incident is pretty ugly, and will likely result in criminal charges for Okafor. There's a pretty big discrepancy between what Okafor claims happened (Massholes were heckling him and getting physical with his teammate Christian Wood) and what the guy he punched claims happened (Okafor tried to pick up the girls who were with his group and then flipped out when they shot him down). Not that either scenario justifies knocking a guy out cold, but if it was the latter it's a particularly bad look for Okafor.

Philly loses another tough one tonight, this time in Memphis. I'm bracing for the worst.
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Who signed off on the Pacers' Hickory High School uniforms? I love that movie as much as the next guy, but this is the NBA. They look ridiculous.

Also, Kobe announced his retirement today, fyi.
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Rex wrote:"What Laws Did Jahlil Okafor Break Last Night?" is not a running feature I ever expected from this season.
Every one in a while, it is interesting to look over at the 76ers and wonder what the hell is going on. 34-145 since the start of the 2013/2014 season and no sign of progress being made.

Does it matter that they have 4 #1s coming in the next draft?

Does anyone in Philadelphia think that things are getting better?

And why does it matter if they are stockpiling #1s into the 2020's if none of their high draft picks of the last few years have panned out yet?
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Rex wrote:Who signed off on the Pacers' Hickory High School uniforms? I love that movie as much as the next guy, but this is the NBA. They look ridiculous.
The Hickory uniforms are the best alternate unis out there.
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duff wrote:
Rex wrote:Who signed off on the Pacers' Hickory High School uniforms? I love that movie as much as the next guy, but this is the NBA. They look ridiculous.
The Hickory uniforms are the best alternate unis out there.
Way better than Los Lakers, Los Bulls, and El Heat

But the Holiday unis are pretty classy
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Apparently Okafor tried to use a Fake ID in october and got turned away. He tried to use it in Philly, where I'm assuming he's fairly well recognized.
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Warriors win last night was very impressive - even for them. Utah is a really tough road venue at this point, and Utah's got the talent up front to make Golden State's small ball difficult - and that is what happened. Sounded like a college atmosphere last night, and huge emotion from Utah, and Golden State prevailed. I thought this would be their first loss as the night started - really nice work to win that game. If that was the end of their seven-game road trip instead of the beginning, no way do they pull that out.
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A_B wrote:Apparently Okafor tried to use a Fake ID in october and got turned away. He tried to use it in Philly, where I'm assuming he's fairly well recognized.
I guess the problem is the Sixers don't have anyone old enough to sneak the younger guys into their clubs.
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tennbengal wrote:Warriors win last night was very impressive - even for them.
It was a very interesting game. Utah really played smart, tough and well. Just missed a couple down the stretch, and Curry did his thing. Dubs were ripe for the picking last night, and they fought it off nicely.

I love the way Luke is working in the end of bench players, Brandon Rush (who started because Barnes sprained an ankle), Ian Clark (4-5, all from the arc) and Shawn Livingston on the floor at the end of the game.

Man, Gordon Hayward has become a nice player. Probably happened a couple of years ago, and I'm just now noticing.
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Hayward has been slowly getting better. The quality of his halfcourt heaves seems to be waning though. Missed by a good 15 feet last night.
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Halfcourt heaves are tougher at this level.
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Winless coach wins coach of the month honors. It isn't whoever is Philly's coach. (interim coaches don't get credit for official wins)
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As my wife works for a major media conglomerate, we get every single channel (except porn) for $40 a month. This includes the NBA League Pass which is both a blessing and a curse.

Flipping between games last night, I ended up sucked into the 76'ers-Lakers game mid-way through the 3rd. And it was train wreck TV, enjoyable in an ironic way as Kobe Bryant put on a clinic. Late in the game, he leaned into the defender on a ridiculous three point attempt and went to the line where he airballed, sank one and then clanged it off the rim.

A surreal thing to watch. Deadspin sums it all up very well.
Kobe finished 4-17 on three-pointers, meaning after the initial flurry he shot 1-13. He became just the third player ever to take so many three-pointers and make so few of them. He was a one-man tank job.
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As part of the Kobe farewell tour, I've heard multiple players/media members talk about what a great competitor Kobe is. Which is strange to me, given the number of times Kobe-lead teams completely folded in elimination games. In fact, Kobe's antics in Game 7 against Phoenix back in 2006, when he didn't take a single shot in the second half because he was pissed at Phil for calling him selfish, was one of the most disgraceful performances I've ever seen from a pro athlete.

In my opinion, Kobe is one of the all-time biggest beneficiaries of the fallacy that rings are the best measure of greatness. Every championship he won was with one of the top-3 centers in the league on his team (Pau was that good from 2008-10). No other Kobe team ever came anywhere close to contention. In contrast, ever since LeBron's third year in the league, any team with him on it has been a legitimate contender to at least make the Finals. While the consensus seems to be that Kobe is a top-5 all-time great, I think you could argue just as easily that he belongs somewhere in the 15-20 range. I think it's a no-brainer that if given the choice of having Tim Duncan or Kobe on your team for their entire career, Duncan is the choice.
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Jordan, Lebron, Magic, Russell, Kareem, Wilt, Bird....we're already out of room.
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Rex wrote:Jordan, Lebron, Magic, Russell, Kareem, Wilt, Bird....we're already out of room.
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