2016 Presidential Race

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:29 am

Cruz scares me. Truly. Trump I think is bark but not so much bite. Cruz? Vicious as fuck.

howard · Post by **howard** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:08 am

What is this coin toss bullstuff? I want to live in a country that decides such momentous issues with rock/paper/scissors.

This does not make Hillary look good. Hence, I love it.

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Post by **brian** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:18 am

Pruitt wrote:Remind me to never go to Iowa - 2008-Huckabee, 2012-Santorum, 2016-Cruz...

That's pretty much a pattern, a troika of sanctimonious human garbage.

Believe me, you're not missing anything. Iowa City's a pretty decent college town. The rest of the state is a wasteland.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:23 am

tennbengal wrote:Cruz scares me. Truly. Trump I think is bark but not so much bite. Cruz? Vicious as fuck.

A sociopath who might get elected to a position where he can take it out on the entire world.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:39 am

brian wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Remind me to never go to Iowa - 2008-Huckabee, 2012-Santorum, 2016-Cruz...

That's pretty much a pattern, a troika of sanctimonious human garbage.
Believe me, you're not missing anything. Iowa City's a pretty decent college town. The rest of the state is a wasteland.

Des Moines isn't bad. It's not Honolulu or NYC, but it's surprisingly nice for the middle of nowhere.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:56 am

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:49 am

Carson, being a doctor and all, decided to use his time in Iowa last night to diagnose church/state separation advocates. Apparently, we have schizophrenia.

We Americans must be proud of who we are. We cannot give away our values and principles for the sake of political correctness. And, you know, there are those — there are those who go around proclaiming “Separation of church and state! You can’t put anything up that has anything to do with God, certainly nothing to do with Jesus Christ,” and, you know, “I’ll have a seizure if I see a cross,” and all this kind of crap, you know.

The fact of the matter is: Do they realize that our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, says we have certain inalienable rights given to us by our Creator, a.k.a. God? That the Pledge of Allegiance says we’re one nation “under God”? Most courtrooms, on the wall, it says “In God We Trust.” Every coin in our pocket, every bill in our wallet, says “In God We Trust.” If it’s in our founding documents, it’s in our Pledge, in our courts, and it’s on our money, but we’re not supposed to talk about it, what in the world is that? In medicine, we call it “schizophrenia.” And doesn’t that explain a lot of what’s going on in our nation?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:26 am

The Pledge thing is hilarious.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:48 am

So... you're saying that an edit to a school pledge of allegiance 60 years ago does NOT take precedence over the U.S. Constitution?

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:24 pm

Good god...why the hell does Ted Cruz wear two watches??????

Keg · Post by **Keg** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:04 pm

He must be a Diego Maradona fan...

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:35 pm

sancarlos wrote:So... you're saying that an edit to a school pledge of allegiance 60 years ago does NOT take precedence over the U.S. Constitution?

It's actually just as egregious to trot out the Declaration of Independence, too.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:59 pm

How the hell did no one mention that Ben Carson used a Stalin "quote" that is deemed false by Snopes?

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:55 am

Post by **Shirley** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:44 am

Here's Ted Cruz in a heartwarming exchange with his daughter, trying to prove that not everyone hates him.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:52 am

Trump is taking his loss in Iowa quite well...

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:53 am

DaveInSeattle wrote:Trump is taking his loss in Iowa quite well...

I am genuinely looking forward to Trump's 3rd party run for the White House.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:56 am

Earlier (and since deleted) version:

Bad!

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:34 pm

Someone needs to change the password on Trumps twitter account. Then again, his two spokes people are dumb as fuck. Especially the woman who wore a necklace made out of bullets shortly after the San Bernardino shooting.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:33 pm

Is that really him? I'm instinctively skeptical of anything from a celebrity's social media account that has proper spelling and punctuation.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:33 pm

Huge endorsement for Bernie Sanders. Fucking huge:

Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein: Sanders candidacy a 'dangerous moment'

You cannot get a more valuable endorsement. What is bad for Goldman Sachs is great for America.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:58 pm

howard wrote:Huge endorsement for Bernie Sanders. Fucking huge:

Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein: Sanders candidacy a 'dangerous moment'

You cannot get a more valuable endorsement. What is bad for Goldman Sachs is great for America.

You have to wonder if there is such a person anywhere that was previously leaning toward supporting Bernie Sanders, but now will change his or her mind because of the comments by Lloyd Blankfein?

Keg · Post by **Keg** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:04 pm

sancarlos wrote:
howard wrote:Huge endorsement for Bernie Sanders. Fucking huge:

Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein: Sanders candidacy a 'dangerous moment'

You cannot get a more valuable endorsement. What is bad for Goldman Sachs is great for America.
You have to wonder if there is such a person anywhere that was previously leaning toward supporting Bernie Sanders, but now will change his or her mind because of the comments by Lloyd Blankfein?

People close to retirement, or those already living off their retirement account?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:11 pm

Keg wrote:
sancarlos wrote:
howard wrote:Huge endorsement for Bernie Sanders. Fucking huge:

Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein: Sanders candidacy a 'dangerous moment'

You cannot get a more valuable endorsement. What is bad for Goldman Sachs is great for America.
You have to wonder if there is such a person anywhere that was previously leaning toward supporting Bernie Sanders, but now will change his or her mind because of the comments by Lloyd Blankfein?
People close to retirement, or those already living off their retirement account?

But, that article did not discuss the likely direction of the stock market under a Sanders administration. No doubt it would go down, at least initially. Blankfein's concerns appear to be elsewhere in that article. Of course, my point was that if one is pre-disposed to vote for Sanders, there is an overwhelming likelihood that they already don't like the likes of Lloyd Blankfein.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:27 pm

Marco Rubio on Obama's speech today at a Mosque:

Sarah Palin is saying "Hey...you're stealing my bit!"

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:33 pm

Obama said this today at that mosque...

“An attack on one religion is an attack on all religions,”

Serious question. What do you think he means by that?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:44 pm

I believe he is saying that if one religion suffers from intolerance, then it is certainly possible that other religions could suffer the same fate. So members of all religions should fight all religious prejudice.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:50 pm

sancarlos wrote:I believe he is saying that if one religion suffers from intolerance, then it is certainly possible that other religions could suffer the same fate. So members of all religions should fight all religious prejudice.

But is he talking about physical attacks or your everyday basic blasphemy?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:55 pm

Jerloma wrote:
sancarlos wrote:I believe he is saying that if one religion suffers from intolerance, then it is certainly possible that other religions could suffer the same fate. So members of all religions should fight all religious prejudice.
But is he talking about physical attacks or your everyday basic blasphemy?

I'd say that includes physical and verbal attacks on practitioners of a given religion.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:59 pm

sancarlos wrote:I believe he is saying that if one religion suffers from intolerance, then it is certainly possible that other religions could suffer the same fate. So members of all religions should fight all religious prejudice.

I'm pretty sure that is secret Muslim code calling for fire bombing Christian churches.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:08 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Jerloma wrote:
sancarlos wrote:I believe he is saying that if one religion suffers from intolerance, then it is certainly possible that other religions could suffer the same fate. So members of all religions should fight all religious prejudice.
But is he talking about physical attacks or your everyday basic blasphemy?
I'd say that includes physical and verbal attacks on practitioners of a given religion.

See, I hate when Obama spews that rhetoric. In the case of physical attacks, the perpetrator is usually not only religious but even more religious than the victims. He doesn't call them religious though. He calls them extremists, radicals, and jihadists instead of Muslims, Christians, and Buddhists. There's no need to exonerate bad ideas...especially when those ideas lead to carnage or even just oppression.

As for verbal attacks, criticism is the fuel of progress. If it weren't for skepticism and blasphemy, we'd still be in the Dark Ages. I understand the pandering, but as a lame duck, he should show some intellectual honesty.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:25 pm

Jerloma wrote:…but as a lame duck, he should show some intellectual honesty.

yeah, you keep on waiting for that. Maybe the third version of his memoirs, when he is in his late 70s.

howard · Post by **howard** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:28 pm

Now we're talking promises:

John Kasich: I’ll reunite Pink Floyd as president

Shine on you crazy Kasich.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:50 pm

howard wrote:Now we're talking promises:

John Kasich: I’ll reunite Pink Floyd as president

Shine on you crazy Kasich.

Gilmour, Waters and Mason reuniting would be pretty excellent. But he definitely has my vote if he can also resurrect Wright.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:29 am

Pruitt wrote: What are the odds that we are about to head into conspiracy theory madness, regardless of the results? The veneer of civility that has always coated the (insane) American electoral process has pretty much eroded. It is only going to get nastier and stupider which is delicious because (other than Sanders) this crop of politicians is a truly disgusting bunch of humans.

Thanks to Trump, it has begun already.

From The Atlantic:

This time, Trump is accusing Cruz of unfairly siphoning off votes. On caucus night in Iowa on Monday, the Cruz campaign suggested that Republican candidate Ben Carson might drop out of the race, an apparent bid to persuade Carson supporters to switch their loyalty to Cruz. Carson criticized Cruz as a result, and on Tuesday, the candidate appeared to issue an apology, saying that his campaign should have circulated a statement “clarifying that he [Carson] was indeed staying in the race.” Trump is also attacking Cruz for sending out a controversial mailer to Iowa voters that essentially attempted to shame voters into caucusing. “The Voter Violation certificate gave poor marks to the unsuspecting voters (grade of F) and told them to clear it up by voting for Cruz. Fraud,” Trump tweeted. Team Cruz dismissed the allegations as a desperate bid for attention. “Since Iowa, no one is talking about Donald Trump,” said Cruz spokesperson Rick Tyler. “That’s why he’s popping off on Twitter.”

Accusing Cruz of stealing votes helps Trump preserve some dignity in defeat. He has run on a platform of promising to win so much that America actually gets sick of winning. Rather than admit that he lost fair and square in Iowa on Monday, Trump can now claim that the system was rigged.

I love this so, so much. Watching bullies go after each other in a dirty fight... this is so much fun.

Post by **brian** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:53 am

Joe K wrote:
howard wrote:Now we're talking promises:

John Kasich: I’ll reunite Pink Floyd as president

Shine on you crazy Kasich.
Gilmour, Waters and Mason reuniting would be pretty excellent. But he definitely has my vote if he can also resurrect Wright.

And if he gets Syd Barrett back. Otherwise, he'll show he's stingy with the miracles.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:24 pm

Wlu_lax works for a Cruz Super PAC now evidently.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:00 pm

brian wrote:
Joe K wrote:
howard wrote:Now we're talking promises:

John Kasich: I’ll reunite Pink Floyd as president

Shine on you crazy Kasich.
Gilmour, Waters and Mason reuniting would be pretty excellent. But he definitely has my vote if he can also resurrect Wright.
And if he gets Syd Barrett back. Otherwise, he'll show he's stingy with the miracles.

But considering Roger Waters' hatred of Israel, Kasich just kissed his 17 Jewish votes goodbye.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:28 pm

Yep, no more original content on this site from me.

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:36 pm

Shit, just learned that I was within a mile or so of Cruz today. Remind me to shower twice tomorrow morning.