MLB 2016--April

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:32 am

I got Correa, Votto, Franco and Stanton on my fantasy team at auction, and so far have apparently jinxed them all. I am awesome. Votto is going through a stretch where it looks like he has never held a bat in his hand before.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:13 pm

Arrieta has given up 0 hits through 6.

But he's thrown 90 pitches.

howard · Post by **howard** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:21 pm

Plus a lot of sitting around, while cubbies score 13.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:24 pm

howard wrote:Plus a lot of sitting around, while cubbies score 13.

Resting his arm that whole time ...

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:44 pm

The Ghost of Milt Pappas is behind this.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:58 pm

Don't count the Reds out in this one.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:23 am

Pretty shitty that the Bears went for two both times.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:54 am

That was as complete a beatdown as I have ever seen in a baseball game. Pretty historic - only game where a team was no-hit and got beat worse was in 1884 (an 18-0 final).

On an up note - steve can stop worrying about the Cubs pythag and expected runs for awhile...

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:44 am

tennbengal wrote:That was as complete a beatdown as I have ever seen in a baseball game. Pretty historic - only game where a team was no-hit and got beat worse was in 1884 (an 18-0 final).

On an up note - steve can stop worrying about the Cubs pythag and expected runs for awhile...

I was wondering last night if this was a record. And then I forgot to look it up. Awesome.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:30 pm

tennbengal wrote:On an up note - steve can stop worrying about the Cubs pythag and expected runs for awhile...

Yeah, the bats may be coming around.

According to Pythagoras, the Cubs won twice last night.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:39 pm

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:04 pm

This is just too damned fun - Fivethirtyeight.com's Complete History of Baseball:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/com ... f-mlb/#BAL

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:38 pm

So the peak for the SF Giants in the last 20 years is not any of the three WS wins, but game 5 of 2002WS. That is just perfect 538.

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:11 pm

howard wrote:So the peak for the SF Giants in the last 20 years is not any of the three WS wins, but game 5 of 2002WS. That is just perfect 538.

You don't think those 2002/2003 teams were better than any of the WS winning teams? I don't follow the Giants as closely as you obviously, but you'd have a hard time convincing me in a vacuum those 02/03 teams weren't way better.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:12 pm

howard wrote:So the peak for the SF Giants in the last 20 years is not any of the three WS wins, but game 5 of 2002WS. That is just perfect 538.

Hey, after Game 5 in 2002 they were something like 105-71 on the year. That's better than any of their championship seasons.

howard · Post by **howard** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:54 pm

I'm old fashioned, but to me the point is championships, nice as numbers are. And I was a stat head back when Bill James was mailing his mimeographed newsletter.

( I will admit, my last happy day for eight years was October 22, 2002.)

rass · Post by **rass** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:46 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:11 pm

Boy, he sure doesn't look like the type of guy who would react exactly like that.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:37 pm

Funny, that is pretty similar to what a different Tiger, Joe Nathan, did in Detroit a couple years ago, eh?

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:08 am

howard wrote:I'm old fashioned, but to me the point is championships, nice as numbers are. And I was a stat head back when Bill James was mailing his mimeographed newsletter.

( I will admit, my last happy day for eight years was October 22, 2002.)

I wonder how many teams have titles as their "peak." The Royals' "peak" is September 25, 1977. They ended up losing the ALCS to the Yankees that season.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:16 am

The Pirates peak was in 1902. Good luck getting back to that Bucs!

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:17 am

Braves peak was in 1875. Any teams on the precipice of a new peak?

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:46 am

howard wrote:I'm old fashioned, but to me the point is championships, nice as numbers are. And I was a stat head back when Bill James was mailing his mimeographed newsletter.

( I will admit, my last happy day for eight years was October 22, 2002.)

Of course, but this is supposed to be a measure of day-to-day quality, not achievement. Winning a World Series is an achievement - or so I've been told. But it doesn't necessarily mean that the team that wins one season automatically was a "better" team than a team from a different season, especially since that team from 2002 was one win away from a Championship also.

The Cubs' peak over the past 70 years was a day in August 2008. That team dominated the NL in offense and defense, before getting swept in the first round by the Dodgers. It was a better team than the 2003 version, which won 88 games but came within a couple innings of the pennant.

I think the Cubs are on a verge of a new post-1945 peak, though. Over their past 81 regular season games, they have gone 58-23, a 116-win pace.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:03 pm

Astros are 6-14 and have had three straight AL Players of the Week.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:14 pm

The most surprising thing about the strong start by the White Sox is that they're doing it despite lacking the strong leadership of Drake LaRoche.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:44 am

Bryan Price is a fuckwit.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:58 am

sancarlos wrote:The most surprising thing about the strong start by the White Sox is that they're doing it despite lacking the strong leadership of Drake LaRoche.

hahahahhah that will never get old. Some 14 year old kid is an f-in' leader. GFY

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:59 am

tennbengal wrote:Bryan Price is a fuckwit.

Maybe he needs Zack Cosart's infant son to come in and provide leadership.

Hey, look at that, Googled it and Cozart indeed has a young son:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/redsblo ... /15048275/

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:29 am

Mike Trout and Bryce Harper were called up to the majors for good on the same day (though Trout had been a call up the previous year). Which probably has to do with service time and all so isn't a huge coincidence, but still.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:51 am

If you don't count Opening Day, I bet it's pretty hard to find even a worthy runner-up. Although I'm looking at just debuts, not any call-up.

David Wright and Grady Sizemore is a cool one.
JD Drew and Eric Chavez
AJ Pierzynski and Corey Koskie (together)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:52 am

Man, that first pair. I'm gonna go cry for a bit.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:54 am

Opening Day '95 was delayed right? Because Radke and Pettitte both debuted on April 29th that year and they equal over 100 WAR. Add in Loaiza and Latroy Hawkins, too.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:05 am

Posey and Bumgarner were 3 days apart. Yeesh.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:09 am

GREG MADDUX AND BO JACKSON

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:23 am

I hope ryan gets back before Swampcrash season starts.

Post by **brian** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:26 am

Ryan wrote:If you don't count Opening Day, I bet it's pretty hard to find even a worthy runner-up. Although I'm looking at just debuts, not any call-up.

David Wright and Grady Sizemore is a cool one.
JD Drew and Eric Chavez
AJ Pierzynski and Corey Koskie (together)

Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell (Sept. 9, 1977). Both should arguably be in the HoF.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:43 pm

Not saying it's connected, but Barry Bonds telling his hitters to take PEDs would have been pretty Barry Bondsian.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:51 pm

Just stay the fuck away from my Giancarlo. Seriously, don't even test him.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:56 pm

A_B wrote:Not saying it's connected, but Barry Bonds telling his hitters to take PEDs would have been pretty Barry Bondsian.

Or ...

Barry Bonds vs. Tom Gordon: 0-2, 2 SO, 0 BB, .000/.333/.000

howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:57 pm

So, the Giants four losses to the Marlins last week are voided, right? Top of the table!