2016 NHL Offseason Thread

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:42 am

I really didn't care for that signing; seems like the exact type of veteran who will provide guaranteed low production while blocking a perhaps better AHL kid.

(Worth noting: I said this about Pouliot too. And Stempniak. I did like Stalberg. 1/3 on these calls.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:12 am

Rumor the Vesey chase is down to NYR and Chicago. I feel like this is where the NHL has to go all MLS and place him where it would be in the best interest of the league.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:48 am

Spoken like a true New Yorker!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:11 am

... whose prior GM traded away 6 of 8 1st + 2nd round picks over the last four years and sees his team with a dearth of cheap, pro-level talent.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:52 pm

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howard · Post by **howard** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:27 pm

So when a team drafts a player, they hold the right to sign him for four years?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:43 pm

Yeah, I thought it was three but looks like four based on Hayes and Vesey. I think it's a really good system that needs no modifications atleast for now.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:15 pm

Congrats, Mr. D.

But, I wonder if expectations aren't a bit unrealistic for this kid. He hasn't played a second of pro hockey yet, and he's expected to fill a top six forward role in the NHL under the bright lights of the biggest market. He might not be ready quite yet, but the big city media won't be in a forgiving mood if that's the case.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:19 pm

I'm pretty sure he picked us because he'd be in a pretty safe 3rd line role while all the insane pre-debut expectations were heaped on Buchnevich.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:24 pm

I guess the counterpoint to that tempered enthusiasm is saying that everything about him being a "free late first rounder" is an understatement. If he were in this past draft, he's gone way before the 30th pick because of his established NHL level floor. He doesn't have Eichel level potential, but he also isn't a risk of never making it like half of the 30ths are.

Diamond · Post by **Diamond** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:04 am

howard wrote:So when a team drafts a player, they hold the right to sign him for four years?

If he plays college hockey, otherwise it's two years.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:36 am

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:19 pm

Whats kinda weird is that the hit on MacArthur is being treated like every one of those hits should always be treated. Funny how logical everyone can be when fandom bias is thrown out.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:18 am

mister d wrote:Whats kinda weird is that the hit on MacArthur is being treated like every one of those hits should always be treated. Funny how logical everyone can be when fandom bias is thrown out.

I finally read up on that hit. Sieloff's wiki page ha a funny reference to it, now.

Most people would describe the hit as greasy or even go as far as to say it was frigged. Sadly, his actions likely will result in him pumping gas for the rest of his life, or worse; he may end up getting traded to the Montreal Canadians for a tin of dip.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:15 pm

Reddit user translates Finnish NHL player names to English
http://www2.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.aspx?F ... &id=590492

Esa Tikkanen = Dick Woodpecker

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:22 pm

Oh wow Gudas with a four-stride board for a game misconduct bet he feels real bad totally an accident again what bad luck poor guy hope the league doesn't consider other accidents and hold this against him he's just trying to play a hard nosed game why is Vesey ever near the boards you have to be responsible for your own safety can't believe that was more than just two or even a no call this sport is turning into pussckey instead of hockey smdh

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:23 pm

mister d wrote:Oh wow Gudas with a four-stride board for a game misconduct bet he feels real bad totally an accident again what bad luck poor guy hope the league doesn't consider other accidents and hold this against him he's just trying to play a hard nosed game why is Vesey ever near the boards you have to be responsible for your own safety can't believe that was more than just two or even a no call this sport is turning into pussckey instead of hockey smdh

Consider me very not surprised.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:39 am

Sounds like there will be no suspension for Gudas. Hjalmerson got 1 preseason and 1 regular season game for his hit on Rattie.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:25 am

Can't wait for the complete shitstorm of shit when a player is finally paralyzed and the DoPS and league go crazy trying to pretend this was truly the worst hit ever and that their history of (softly) punishing the result didn't allow the inevitable to happen.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:29 pm

mister d wrote:Can't wait for the complete shitstorm of shit when a player is finally paralyzed and the DoPS and league go crazy trying to pretend this was truly the worst hit ever and that their history of (softly) punishing the result didn't allow the inevitable to happen.

It would depend who did the paralyzing.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:30 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:33 pm

degenerasian wrote:
mister d wrote:Can't wait for the complete shitstorm of shit when a player is finally paralyzed and the DoPS and league go crazy trying to pretend this was truly the worst hit ever and that their history of (softly) punishing the result didn't allow the inevitable to happen.
It would depend who did the paralyzing.

True. And it'll be Shane Doan.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:54 pm

I didn't see the hit from Hammer, but no suspension for Guidas? Nice work DoPS

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:04 pm

degenerasian wrote:

Least surprising announcement so far this season

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:27 pm

I'm not sure announcing Lucic would have knocked me on my ass.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:58 pm

mister d wrote:I'm not sure announcing Lucic would have knocked me on my ass.

I assume you are joking. Besides being brand new to the team, Lucic is such a hothead, and I don't think I've ever heard of him being described as a leader or anything. McDavid was captain of Team North America, was captain on his junior team, is a generational talent, and is said to be mature beyond his years.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:40 am

phhhhffffttt a guy playing only 46 games in the NHL should never be captain. He should have never been North America's captain. Oilers are a joke.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:47 am

sancarlos wrote:I assume you are joking. Besides being brand new to the team, Lucic is such a hothead, and I don't think I've ever heard of him being described as a leader or anything. McDavid was captain of Team North America, was captain on his junior team, is a generational talent, and is said to be mature beyond his years.

Not joking even a little bit. I wouldn't have been shocked in the least if the FO of a young team that just paid Lucic huge money (and traded away Taylor Goddamn Hall) picked Lucic.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:49 am

Landeskog and Crosby have done alright as captains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_( ... y)#Records

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:49 am

Also really excited the Rangers placed two potentially useful depth forwards on waivers while holding tight to Glass and Lapierre. AV just can't fucking quit "sandpapery" veterans and the FO seems to refuse to step in.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:00 pm

Barry is the best sometimes...

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:30 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote:Landeskog and Crosby have done alright as captains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_( ... y)#Records

Crosby had played 2 full seasons. Landeskog 1 (i didn't really like that one either).

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:42 pm

rass wrote:

Barry is the best sometimes...

1.) I need to keep the schedule for championship white house appearances on my calendar. I work a few blocks and am sure if I time it right I can catch the teams entering from 18th or Penn avenue.
2.) Love that they put a guy with a solid black eye just over the President's right shoulder.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:54 pm

degenerasian wrote:
wlu_lax6 wrote:Landeskog and Crosby have done alright as captains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_( ... y)#Records
Crosby had played 2 full seasons. Landeskog 1 (i didn't really like that one either).

You're splitting hairs. The point is that there is established precedent in the NHL for young stars to be named captain. Crosby and Landeskog were both teenagers when named captain, just like McDavid. McDavid is starting his second year (just as was the case for Landeskog) and he's certainly established in the league, despite his injury last season. Crosby was actually offered the captaincy earlier, but finally accepted it at the end of his second season.

wiki wrote:Following the Penguins defeat, Crosby was named Pittsburgh's team captain on May 31, 2007, making him (at 19 years, 9 months, and 24 days) the youngest team captain in NHL history.[44][45] During the season, the Penguins had offered him the captaincy, but he had turned it down.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:10 am

What a leader.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:13 am

So the Rangers made all the right decisions with their roster. I feel incredibly good about our forwards and goalie and incredibly bad about our defense. Like as good as ever on the former and as bad as ever on the latter.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:26 am

Henrik is 34.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:38 am

Best in the league 5v5 save percentage at age 33. No worries there.

rass · Post by **rass** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:45 am

He seemed sleepy against the Pens in the playoffs.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:48 am

I very clearly excluded 5v3 and 5v2.