2016/2017 NHL Regular Season Thread

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:39 pm

sancarlos wrote:Watch out, Opus! The Sharks are circling and I think they want Penguins for dinner!

OK, let's try this again!

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:08 pm

I was hoping that Opus would make another appearance! Enjoy the game tonight, sancarlos. Let's go, Opus!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:21 pm

Its very possible our three best pure shooters this year were all not on last year's team.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:11 am

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:23 am

I love Kadri but not even having a hearing on that hit, let alone 5+ games off, is a serious problem. Its like they're competing against the NFL to see who can have someone die mid-game first by tacitly allowing those sorts of hits.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:37 am

mister d wrote:I love Kadri but not even having a hearing on that hit, let alone 5+ games off, is a serious problem. Its like they're competing against the NFL to see who can have someone die mid-game first by tacitly allowing those sorts of hits.

The problem is that the NHL doesn't care about blindsides and the repeat offender part only comes into play for suspension length not the suspension itself. CBC slowed the video down and it was clear the first point of contact was the shoulder and not the head. So Kadri gets off.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:31 pm

First point of contact... side by side... blah blah blah... it was a cheap, dirty unprovoked blindside hit on a good, clean player. (If it was done to Burrows instead, I could understand...).

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:38 pm

What SC said. And if that hit is determined to be legal, then change that rule.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:12 pm

mister d wrote:What SC said. And if that hit is determined to be legal, then change that rule.

It's not legal, there was a 5 minute major assessed. It's just not suspension worthy according to the NHL.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:27 pm

It should be completely forbidden, a 5-10 game suspension for intent to injure. There's no good outcome there, just maybe not bad.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:03 pm

hockey never knows what it wants. Tries to be half-pregnant.

MaxWebster · Post by **MaxWebster** » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:51 pm

i like you guys. preach.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:39 am

The latest Puck Soup podcast was with Echevarrieta and Burke of NHL Player Safety. I thought it was really good.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:06 am

govmentchedda wrote:The latest Puck Soup podcast was with Echevarrieta and Burke of NHL Player Safety. I thought it was really good.

This. It was very good and a bit enlightening to their process.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:24 am

While we're on the topic: Matthew Tkachuk, 18-year-old rookie for Calgary who I want to love, had his second very bad hit over the weekend, elbowing Jeff Carter in the face. He's been in the league for a month, and he already has a reputation. I hate when players I like do this stuff.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:36 am

Virtanen has been doing it too. What's up with really high picks being complete shitheads?

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:42 am

mister d wrote:Virtanen has been doing it too. What's up with really high picks being complete shitheads?

When we had this conversation a few years ago (and I hate the fact that we keep having this exact same conversation every single year), I said that it somehow bothered me more when it was a skilled player instead of a fringe player. Like, I can almost understand Zac Rinaldo, but why Max Pacioretty?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:49 am

bapo! wrote:While we're on the topic: Matthew Tkachuk, 18-year-old rookie for Calgary who I want to love, had his second very bad hit over the weekend, elbowing Jeff Carter in the face. He's been in the league for a month, and he already has a reputation. I hate when players I like do this stuff.

In the few Flames games I've watched this year, he DEFINITELY plays like it's still his dad's era. I didn't see any of the bad hits, but saw quite a few clean, but crushing hits.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:52 am

Also, I really want Drouin to learn to watch out for hits. He got destroyed legally in the playoffs last year vs. the Isles, and then concussed in his first shift against them a week ago. He is electric when on the ice, and this team could really use his dynamic play.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:57 am

mister d wrote:Virtanen has been doing it too. What's up with really high picks being complete shitheads?

Yes, Virtanen is a shit.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:03 am

bapo! wrote:Like, I can almost understand Zac Rinaldo, but why Max Pacioretty?

Or Marchand, who had a puff piece written last week that included the line (paraphased) "He's delivered cheat shots in the past and he'll do it again".

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:20 am

I was going to mention Marchand. He seems to be entering that stage of his career where everybody re-evaluates his play. But it's only a matter of time until we all say, 'Oh, yeah, he's still Brad Marchand.'

Chedda, Drouin fascinates me. I said when he was in juniors that his closest comp was a young Ovechkin: often the best player on the ice, but too emotional and often reckless, would do whatever he wanted whether it was good for the team or not. If he keeps playing on the edge, he's going to keep taking hits like that. He's an obvious target.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:02 pm

bapo! wrote:I was going to mention Marchand. He seems to be entering that stage of his career where everybody re-evaluates his play. But it's only a matter of time until we all say, 'Oh, yeah, he's still Brad Marchand.'

Chedda, Drouin fascinates me. I said when he was in juniors that his closest comp was a young Ovechkin: often the best player on the ice, but too emotional and often reckless, would do whatever he wanted whether it was good for the team or not. If he keeps playing on the edge, he's going to keep taking hits like that. He's an obvious target.

For someone with such dazzling offensive skill, he clearly knows how to skate while not looking down at the puck. Yet, he gets his ass rocked on the reg, and got a concussion out of this recent one. That being said, he has easily been my favorite Bolt F so far this year. He operates at a speed that very few else in the league do. I didn't watch enough young Ovechkin to comment on that comp, but I'm really hoping he continues to mature his game, with the next step being keeping his fucking head up.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:02 pm

And fuck Marchand.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:06 pm

govmentchedda wrote:And fuck Marchand.

And Alex Burrows, and Steve Ott, and Max Lapierre, and Andrew Shaw, and Corey Perry, and Dustin Brown, and Matt Cooke.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:28 pm

Flames are such a timid team an 18 year old has to start shit

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:39 pm

sancarlos wrote:
govmentchedda wrote:And fuck Marchand.
And Alex Burrows, and Steve Ott, and Max Lapierre, and Andrew Shaw, and Corey Perry, and Dustin Brown, and Matt Cooke.

And goddamn fucking Letang.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:02 am

Fuck mister d.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:31 pm

Mister D

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR trade Dylan McIlrath to FLA for Steve Kampfer and conditional 7th round pick*.

*If Dylan McIlrath plays 30 games this season, NYR get 2018 7th-rounder.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:50 pm

degenerasian wrote:Mister D

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR trade Dylan McIlrath to FLA for Steve Kampfer and conditional 7th round pick*.

*If Dylan McIlrath plays 30 games this season, NYR get 2018 7th-rounder.

Similar situations. Kampfer had been a healthy scratch in 12 of the last 13 games, and was recently put on waivers.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:26 pm

Anybody want to talk about the fact that Patrik Laine scored another hat trick last night? That's exciting, right?

And Blues/Blackhawks are on tv tonight. That's, like, a thing that we can watch. (No, I don't care, either.)

I need a distraction. Any ideas, puck bros?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:40 pm

Every time there's a Corsi event, drink. That might help for a bit.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:47 pm

Laine is going to be a good one. Scheifele was already good last year without him. Bolts play tomorrow vs. the Isles. Taking my oldest with me.

That's all I've got right now for uplifting hockey talk.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:48 pm

mister d wrote:Every time there's a Corsi event, drink. That might help for a bit.

Can't drink while I'm sick. I was thinking more along the lines of puck-related YouTube or something. Doesn't even have to be puck-related. Just...something other than Fox/CNN/MSNBC. I'm going to start writing sonnets about Trump if I don't unplug pretty soon. Maybe I can write Patrik Laine sonnets.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:09 am

The Flames are an absolute fucking dumpster fire. The Rangers are going to fucking destroy them Saturday night.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:44 pm

degenerasian wrote:The Flames are an absolute fucking dumpster fire. The Rangers are going to fucking destroy them Saturday night.

You never know. Vancouver broke their losing streak against the Rangers.
/tweakofmrd

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:51 pm

sancarlos wrote:
degenerasian wrote:The Flames are an absolute fucking dumpster fire. The Rangers are going to fucking destroy them Saturday night.
You never know. Vancouver broke their losing streak against the Rangers.
/tweakofmrd

that will just make them more mad on saturday

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:06 pm

sancarlos wrote:You never know. Vancouver broke their losing streak against the Rangers.
/tweakofmrd

I'm untweakable as far as the Rangers go at this point. Only a horror trade or a targeted injury could throw me off.
/fatetemptingcompleted

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:10 pm

The Rangers play the Oilers again on Sunday, so if Matthew Tkachuk wants to soften them up first, I won't complain. (I'll complain if he continues to act like an idiot, tho.)

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:35 pm

mister d wrote:
sancarlos wrote:You never know. Vancouver broke their losing streak against the Rangers.
/tweakofmrd
I'm untweakable as far as the Rangers go at this point. Only a horror trade or a targeted injury could throw me off.
/fatetemptingcompleted

Isnt Girardi the worst player to ever play hockey?

Bapo: Tkachuk is hurt. Didnt play last night.