2016/2017 NHL Regular Season Thread

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:34 pm

Larsen then had his teammates use his head as a soccer ball while prone on the ice when they were trying to defend his honor.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:23 am

Yeah, I wouldn't call it vicious.

rass · Post by **rass** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:40 am

sancarlos wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't call it vicious.

I said it was clean, so I meant the force of the hit not the intent? Words failed me.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:26 pm

Colorado Avalanche forward Jarome Iginla will play in his 1,500th career game on Saturday. He will become only the 16th player in NHL history to reach that milestone

One has to wonder how much of an impact it would have had on black players/fans in hockey if he had started in NY or LA or CHI with more visibility instead of Calgary.

rass · Post by **rass** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:14 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:45 pm

His wrister that beat Lundqvist on Tuesday was very, very sexual.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:02 am

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:53 am

Dubious Records. Chris Bourque hit 600 AHL points (602 AHL games). In addition to his 600 regular-season points, Bourque ranks among the AHL’s all-time postseason leaders with 78 assists (2nd) and 107 points (5th) in 121 Calder Cup Playoff games played (4th).

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:55 pm

I should have been here awhile ago, this NHL thread is dying. So how about them Habs?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:07 pm

At some point I'll be ready to talk about this Henrik stuff.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:52 pm

Didn't he go through this a few years ago?

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:53 pm

Any interest in doing an "if you were starting a team right now" draft? I'll set up a thread if we get enough interest.

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:58 pm

govmentchedda wrote:Any interest in doing an "if you were starting a team right now" draft? I'll set up a thread if we get enough interest.

I'm in. but i'm only here from 7-11 EST. and i'll have to relocate the swamp to priority status on the toolbar. Should be there anyway.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:23 pm

Is ray bork still on the board?

TheHumanComa · Post by **TheHumanComa** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:29 pm

A_B wrote:Is ray bork still on the board?

Haha. nope but he has two sons in the system. both in Washington? You can lock up Bork and Bork no problem.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:40 pm

Heck yes, as long as its a leisurely pace.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:41 pm

mister d wrote:At some point I'll be ready to talk about this Henrik stuff.

It's been fascinating. I think they started by just giving the King a day off. Then Raanta became the second coming of peak Dominik Hasek, and I think Vignault thought he he had to keep riding him.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:45 pm

And it was absolutely the right move, pretty sure Henrik said as much himself. Sitting Raanta off one or two or three (or even four) great games is deferring rather than playing the best option for the next game. What's fucking infuriating is he's willing to sit an all-time great player for performance and refuses to do the same with his defensemen beyond a one game rotation. At this point I'm convinced he's (1) simply not the guy for this roster, despite being what I believe to be a good strategic coach and (2) actively trying to piss me off.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:56 pm

govmentchedda wrote:Any interest in doing an "if you were starting a team right now" draft? I'll set up a thread if we get enough interest.

Sure

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:28 am

sure!

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:36 am

As always, I pick Dennis Seidenberg.

I'm watching the Lundqvist/Raanta situation with interest. As D said, I'm guessing it's just a 'riding the hot hand' thing. But...what if it's more than that?

I should have been here awhile ago, this NHL thread is dying.

(There are other threads with better hockey talk than this one.)

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:15 am

1) John Scott - D

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:03 am

bapo! wrote:I'm watching the Lundqvist/Raanta situation with interest. As D said, I'm guessing it's just a 'riding the hot hand' thing. But...what if it's more than that?

Lundqvist for McDavid?

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:08 am

mister d wrote:Lundqvist for McDavid?

Do you think Henrik would be able to handle being Talbot's back-up?

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:33 pm

mister d wrote:
bapo! wrote:I'm watching the Lundqvist/Raanta situation with interest. As D said, I'm guessing it's just a 'riding the hot hand' thing. But...what if it's more than that?
Lundqvist for McDavid?

If they're going to give up McDavid, they'd probably rather have your #1 goalie, Raanta.

bapo! · Post by **bapo!** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:47 pm

So, is this where everybody gangs up on Mister D and gives him shit to make up for all of the abuse he's heaped on Fleury over the years? I'm sure that rass would enjoy that.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:30 pm

Do you guys watch NHL Network? I like their highlight/analysis shows. The guys seem real genuine in their banter, and I learn things from their analysis - unlike say NFL Today. Good mix of younger and older. Pleasantly surprised to see Mike Johnson making great points defending the stats-oriented approach of Florida, versus the "old-time hockey guy" view of Marty Biron (who has a charming accent, but views from the olden days.)

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:55 pm

I have to pick the next cable tier up to get it and do so. Miles better than MLBN.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:25 pm

sancarlos wrote:Do you guys watch NHL Network? I like their highlight/analysis shows. The guys seem real genuine in their banter, and I learn things from their analysis - unlike say NFL Today. Good mix of younger and older. Pleasantly surprised to see Mike Johnson making great points defending the stats-oriented approach of Florida, versus the "old-time hockey guy" view of Marty Biron (who has a charming accent, but views from the olden days.)

so much for stats-oriented Florida

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Dale Tallon is resuming control of management duties and Hockey Ops in Florida. Panthers need to get back on track and stabilize things.

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There won't be an overhaul in Florida, but Tallon will likely want to make some changes and add pieces after the holiday roster freeze.

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Darren Dreger Retweeted Harvey Fialkov
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He has been pres. of hockey operations, but this infers that he is the main decision maker again. I will inquire.

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Right. I'm talking day to day management and player personnel decisions. His challenge is to fix things.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:59 am

Dirty cheap shot cross check by Ottawa's Mike Hoffman to the back of the head of Logan Couture.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:48 am

sancarlos wrote:Dirty cheap shot cross check by Ottawa's Mike Hoffman to the back of the head of Logan Couture.

Yea that's a frustration one for sure, given that Couture crossed him in the back on the breakout. Not saying it's apples and apples, just noting that wasn't a random act.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:32 am

2 games max

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:33 am

That was clumsy, like he had no idea how to throw a truly dangerous cheapshot.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:38 pm

Can't wait to see how severely punished Eakin is for clearly running a goalie up high. Bet it's atleast a game, maybe even two.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:08 am

degenerasian wrote:2 games max

Im betting (and hoping for) four. It was predatory, from behind, and intent to injure.

Not that Hoffman knew, but Couture has concussion history, too. Couture didn't come back to the game and could miss time, and (like it or not) we know that also figures into the NHL's process.

And Couture didn't "cross him in the back". He gave him a little shove to dislodge him from the puck (it's legal), like what happens thirty times a game.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:10 am

sancarlos wrote:
degenerasian wrote:2 games max
Im betting (and hoping for) four. It was predatory, from behind, and intent to injure.

Not that Hoffman knew, but Couture has concussion history, too. Couture didn't come back to the game and could miss time, and (like it or not) we know that also figures into the NHL's process.

And Couture didn't "cross him in the back". He gave him a little shove to dislodge him from the puck (it's legal), like what happens thirty times a game.

We can agree to disagree. He had 2 arms straight out against his numbers.

Hoffman was out of line, but it's not like he just shived him out of the blue.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:35 am

It looks like he released the stick before simply pushing him down.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:19 pm

you have to factor Dillon in that play too. Hoffman's stick is lifted by Dillon.

The NHL might also consider Vlasic's maybe-spear on Karlsson and consider everything a wash.

I still think Hoffman gets 2 games.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:04 pm

degenerasian wrote:you have to factor Dillon in that play too. Hoffman's stick is lifted by Dillon.

The NHL might also consider Vlasic's maybe-spear on Karlsson and consider everything a wash.

I still think Hoffman gets 2 games.

The Vlasic/Karlsson incident has zero bearing on the Hoffman incident. Dillon and Couture did nothing sufficient to provoke that cheap shot by Hoffman.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:06 pm

degenerasian wrote:you have to factor Dillon in that play too. Hoffman's stick is lifted by Dillon.

The NHL might also consider Vlasic's maybe-spear on Karlsson and consider everything a wash.

I still think Hoffman gets 2 games.

And he should. It was a dangerous play regardless of Dillion's stick involvement or not. I was just trying to present the point that it wasn't like he ran him in the corner with no cause.