2017 AFC Playoffs

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:36 pm

That was a weird sequence that should end in an incomplete pass.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:36 pm

Rex wrote:Good grief CBS. Waiting for a frightened Steve Tasker to bring order here.

That was a weird sequence for everyone.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:42 pm

Thats a weird sequence that we both led with weird sequence.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:46 pm

Texans game to lose at this point, obviously.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:52 pm

I swear that 3 yard gain to Edelman was a missed false start.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:14 pm

Brady flying out of bounds and Belichick's TIME THE FUCK OUT might become memes.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:25 pm

Joe K wrote:
GoodKarma wrote:
Pruitt wrote:Bet on the Pats and may put a few bucks on Pittsburgh.

16 points is a massive amount, but the Pats have given up 87 points in 7 games. I bet we see Garafalo in this one.
Scary thing is the actual Janeane Garafalo could start at QB and the Pats would still be an 8 point favorite.
I would take the Pats giving 10 or even 13 points, but 16 seems a bit too high to me. I could easily see something like a 24-10 result where New England dominates the game, is up 24-3 late and Houston scored a garbage time TD to cover. And in the unlikely event that Houston's offense actually plays well, they'll easily cover 16.

Damn it, Osweiler. I knew you sucked but you had the backdoor cover wide open for you to make my ATS prediction look good.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:26 pm

degenerasian wrote:Pats are -16, jeez

Where did all the money go on this today?

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:30 pm

Johnnie wrote:
degenerasian wrote:Pats are -16, jeez
Where did all the money go on this today?

Spread came down to 15, so some money must have come in on Houston.

I have lost on back door covers all year. But you know, I wasn't worried at all tonight. That Osweiler is horrible. Mike Lombardi nicknamed him "The Heist" because his contract is such a crime.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:31 pm

sancarlos wrote:
Johnnie wrote:Who was that homeless guy in the tunnel giving daps when the Pats were being shown?
I saw that. It was great. He looked like Rob Ryan after a hard night of drinking.

Also:

LewP · Post by **LewP** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:34 pm

Geeeze, I can't believe this game got so much publicity and press. Did anyone really think Houston had a chance in this game? Oh by the way, I have a bridge in the desert I need to sell.

I suppose at least the Texans can buy a ticket and go watch the Cowboys take home the Lombardy Trophy.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:35 pm

LewP wrote:Geeeze, I can't believe this game got so much publicity and press. Did anyone really think Houston had a chance in this game? Oh by the way, I have a bridge in the desert I need to sell.

I suppose at least the Texans can buy a ticket and go watch the Cowboys take home the Lombardy Trophy.

First they'll need a ticket to the future.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:39 pm

You own this bridge?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:40 pm

It's Trophi

LewP · Post by **LewP** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:48 pm

Ryan wrote:It's Trophi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Lombardi_Trophy

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:48 pm

Pruitt wrote:
Johnnie wrote:
degenerasian wrote:Pats are -16, jeez
Where did all the money go on this today?
Spread came down to 15, so some money must have come in on Houston.

I have lost on back door covers all year. But you know, I wasn't worried at all tonight. That Osweiler is horrible. Mike Lombardi nicknamed him "The Heist" because his contract is such a crime.

From what I could gather, Twitter said it went to 17. Still. Pretty crazy cover.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:50 pm

Then Vegas took a bath tonight.

LewP · Post by **LewP** » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:52 pm

Pruitt wrote:Then Vegas took a bath tonight.

Funny how the Pats and the house always win though.

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:02 am

Congrats johnnie and rush. I sincerely hope you guys take it down. Someone please end this dallas cowboys bs.

Also....who has 2 thumbs and had the patriots -15.5 in both a parlay and straight out? This guy. Im sad for my team but lying if im saying objectively that i didnt expect a much worse loss. There was not a single solitary moment of this game where i worried about the cover minus houstons last drive where i expected a spite fg.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:44 pm

The left guard standing and tapping the center before he's set is neat.

And how the hell are you gunna put a LB on Antonio Brown!?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:43 pm

Has there been an advanced metric article this season about why the team receiving a kickoff should just take the damn touchback every single time? I swear these return guys take the ball like 3-4 yards deep and only seem to get to the 15-18 max on average. They get it at the 25 otherwise. Is this a coaching issue? I don't get it.

Edit:

Note, I understand Tyreke Hill has a hall pass. But I'm still asking.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:43 pm

On a serious note here, you've got Ben and that 84 guy. What the hell?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:44 pm

That's not what I meant.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:20 pm

"I don't know how you beat father time ... He spends $350k a year on his body." - Collinsworth on Harrison.

Drugs, Chris. The answer is drugs.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:26 pm

Drugs?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:17 pm

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:19 pm

Harrison never gets that call.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:19 pm

I'll believe they can beat NE when it happens.

TT2.0 · Post by **TT2.0** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:31 pm

congrats rass loma gpj and any other diehard steeler fans im forgetting. hell of a game. new england vs pitt will be fun to watch. i think the afc wins the superbowl no matter what to be honest. id like to see new england vs green bay...brady vs rodgers would be entertaining as hell. sad to be watching from the sidelines as a houston fan knowing my team is 1 qb away from being very very good and knowing we are stuck with anothernyear of osweiler...and knowing if we go 9-7 and win the division next year and get bounced by baltimore in rd 2 they will probably give brock a 3 year 45 million dollar extension...fuck i wish we had hope

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:41 pm

Pats open as 4.5 point favorites. I see it being much closer.

This will certainly be the game where we find out if the defense is for real or not. And I have my reservations.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:49 pm

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Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:32 am

I know he's had a couple really good postseason performances in his career but deep down I think that Alex Smith's limitations will always come back to bite his teams in the playoffs. I think Jim Harbaugh knew this in San Fran and the same applies in KC. I felt coming into the postseason that Pittsburgh was the only AFC team that could win in Foxboro. They'll need to play better than they did yesterday but they have the weapons to do it. Brown and Bell are about as unstoppable as it gets in the NFL.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:07 am

Joe K wrote:I know he's had a couple really good postseason performances in his career but deep down I think that Alex Smith's limitations will always come back to bite his teams in the playoffs. I think Jim Harbaugh knew this in San Fran and the same applies in KC. I felt coming into the postseason that Pittsburgh was the only AFC team that could win in Foxboro. They'll need to play better than they did yesterday but they have the weapons to do it. Brown and Bell are about as unstoppable as it gets in the NFL.

as long as you're not making this point by blaming Alex Smith for last night

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:25 am

Brontoburglar wrote:
Joe K wrote:I know he's had a couple really good postseason performances in his career but deep down I think that Alex Smith's limitations will always come back to bite his teams in the playoffs. I think Jim Harbaugh knew this in San Fran and the same applies in KC. I felt coming into the postseason that Pittsburgh was the only AFC team that could win in Foxboro. They'll need to play better than they did yesterday but they have the weapons to do it. Brown and Bell are about as unstoppable as it gets in the NFL.
as long as you're not making this point by blaming Alex Smith for last night

I don't know exactly what "blaming" him means, but 4.7 yards per pass play (factoring in sacks) is pretty damn bad. Other than Osweiler (vs. NE) and Cook, it was the worst of any team in any playoff game this season. Yes there were some drops/penalties that may've skewed it low, but Smith-led passing games are consistently low octane.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:29 am

Texans had the most playoff wins by a team from Texas, so that's not bad with such an awful QB.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:39 am

Joe K wrote:
Brontoburglar wrote:
Joe K wrote:I know he's had a couple really good postseason performances in his career but deep down I think that Alex Smith's limitations will always come back to bite his teams in the playoffs. I think Jim Harbaugh knew this in San Fran and the same applies in KC. I felt coming into the postseason that Pittsburgh was the only AFC team that could win in Foxboro. They'll need to play better than they did yesterday but they have the weapons to do it. Brown and Bell are about as unstoppable as it gets in the NFL.
as long as you're not making this point by blaming Alex Smith for last night
I don't know exactly what "blaming" him means, but 4.7 yards per pass play (factoring in sacks) is pretty damn bad. Other than Osweiler (vs. NE) and Cook, it was the worst of any team in any playoff game this season. Yes there were some drops/penalties that may've skewed it low, but Smith-led passing games are consistently low octane.

May?

And the fact that the Chiefs had the lowest rushing output of any team in the divisional round helped quite a bit too. If Eric Fisher doesn't hold, or Dontari Poe picks that opening screen pass off, or if Albert WIlson catches that third down conversion pass or if Travis Kelce doesn't shove Chris Cockrell or catches that 40-yard pass to put them inside the 15 or ... you get the point, Alex Smith's "limitations" aren't being discussed.

But there's no point in playing the what-if game. The Chiefs had a good offensive gameplan and executed poorly. Smith has gotten help from his weapons all year and he didn't get it last night.

Gunpowder · Post by **Gunpowder** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:37 pm

They might be discussed still...they would have only had 18 points. Smith didn't lose it but you can argue that he played a significant role in not winning it.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:00 pm

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:03 pm

Gunpowder wrote:They might be discussed still...they would have only had 18 points. Smith didn't lose it but you can argue that he played a significant role in not winning it.

shit, he's not a transcendent quarterback who can make up for shittiness around him. never going to argue that point. but of the Chiefs' three playoff losses with him as the quarterback, none of the three immediately lead with "well Alex Smith cost his team the game."

granted, the only win has been against Brian Hoyer's generosity. but the Steelers were a better team entering the game and they showed why they were last night. Spencer Ware ain't close to Le'Veon Bell.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:04 pm

Pruitt wrote:

at the risk of sounding twice my age, the Swamp is a better place without memes