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govmentchedda wrote:I think France wins WC2018. That team is stacked.


I said the same thing to my daughter as we watched the game. Near the end of the game, Pogba was just teasing the Dutch defenders. They are young and talented all over the field. What a performance.
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Rex wrote:Well that's just an excellent header by Arturo Vidal to put Paraguay ahead 1-0.


they just lost 0-3. This might be the end of a great generation. They have played a lot of football the last 5 years.
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Costa Rica +500 to win seems like a pretty solid bet, no?
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mister d wrote:Costa Rica +500 to win seems like a pretty solid bet, no?


The U.S. has only lost two WCQ at home in the last 30+ years (Honduras in '01 and Mexico earlier this year).

So caveat emptor.
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mister d wrote:Costa Rica +500 to win seems like a pretty solid bet, no?


The U.S. has only lost two WCQ at home in the last 30+ years (Honduras in '01 and Mexico earlier this year).

So caveat emptor.



yeah, taking the draw at +300(?) would be more realistic
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Sure, I'm not saying straight up money, but +500 on a mostly even neutral matchup where the road team still probably wins more than 1 in 5?
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mister d wrote:Sure, I'm not saying straight up money, but +500 on a mostly even matchup for something that likely happens more than 1 in 5?


Yeah, it's not an insane bet or anything, but the odds seem in the ballpark. So if that's what you're asking, yeah. I wouldn't call it a "good" bet either though. (Not being pedantic, just trying to be literal).

I think the odds of CR winning a WCQ game outright under "normal" circumstances (no serious injuries to US, CRC is at its normal level, etc.) are probably closer to +700/+750, but betting lines have inefficiency built in for the house edge so given that +500 is about right. I think the fact that I'm assuming it's going to be a 50/50 crowd (I hope I'm wrong) might get you a little more value for that +500.
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They're missing Matarrita too and he seems to drive some of their offense so maybe its not great. I don't know, I just used to really like betting on the other side when my team was a big favorite.
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Slovenia playing Slovakia right now.

Or as most people would say, "Why is that weird country playing against itself?"

23yo RSL midfielder Albert Rusnak just entered the game for Slovakia.
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Nothing against this guy, but a stadium singalong is the only right way to do the home anthem in a big qualifier. This isn't a Thursday night Mets game.
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CONCACAF officiating in full effect.
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Tim Seam.
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Question we should be asking is if Ream bet on Costa Rica.
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Didn't bet. Double mad.
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So many echoes of 9/1/01, which for a few days was really really awful.
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That's why I kinda cringed when we made a dicey choice of location for a September 1 qualifier.
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mister d wrote:Didn't bet. Double mad.


sorry, we shouldn't have talked you off the ledge.
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Rex wrote:So many echoes of 9/1/01, which for a few days was really really awful.


I was at that game. So crazy. So dumb to play CRC in a big city.
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Yeah. It was a bad idea to play like shit too.
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Ouch. Train your sons better.
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Filling bags of urine around the house to cheer on Mexico tonight.
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I don't want to pick on New Jersey and Red Bull Arena too much, but it's about time US Soccer found its fortress. Columbus served in that role well but it is too small and I think it may have just gotten lucky. Maybe it's Seattle. I wouldn't have any problem with every big US qualifier being in Seattle until further notice. Kansas City is great but it is too small in the long run. Orlando is interesting but I think it is also too small and too Florida. Selfishly I am rooting for Mercedes-Benz Stadium, but it's a non-starter for Mexico games so no.
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Also, Tim Howard has been sneaky bad for a while and it didn't help tonight.
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Crew Stadium is pretty lock down as a home venue.
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Crew Stadium has been great, but it seats 20K, it's in the #3 city in Ohio, and one of the ends is used to showcase new cars. Is that really our destiny? I think we need to start dreaming bigger. The USA support is there--from all accounts the US crowd at RBA was great, just didn't have anything to root for. The NY-DC corridor just doesn't work for Central American games, that's all. This is kind of like the pro/rel issue where the old/existing policies have served us well for 20 years but it's time to start thinking about what the game should look like in 2027, when we'll have had a second World Cup here and helmet-based football will be much more clearly in decline.
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Walked around the Orlando stadium, but haven't been in. It's definitely not that big, and way too Florida, and fuck Orlando and their shit supporters groups.
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Rex wrote:I don't want to pick on New Jersey and Red Bull Arena too much, but it's about time US Soccer found its fortress. Columbus served in that role well but it is too small and I think it may have just gotten lucky. Maybe it's Seattle. I wouldn't have any problem with every big US qualifier being in Seattle until further notice. Kansas City is great but it is too small in the long run. Orlando is interesting but I think it is also too small and too Florida. Selfishly I am rooting for Mercedes-Benz Stadium, but it's a non-starter for Mexico games so no.


Can they do WC qualifiers on field turf? If not, that makes Seattle a non-starter.
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I think Denver might be a good bet. Make these teams play at altitude.
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Play Mexico in Columbus and everyone else in Denver or Salt Lake.
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DaveInSeattle wrote:
Rex wrote:I don't want to pick on New Jersey and Red Bull Arena too much, but it's about time US Soccer found its fortress. Columbus served in that role well but it is too small and I think it may have just gotten lucky. Maybe it's Seattle. I wouldn't have any problem with every big US qualifier being in Seattle until further notice. Kansas City is great but it is too small in the long run. Orlando is interesting but I think it is also too small and too Florida. Selfishly I am rooting for Mercedes-Benz Stadium, but it's a non-starter for Mexico games so no.


Can they do WC qualifiers on field turf? If not, that makes Seattle a non-starter.


Yup. Canada plays all of it's qualifiers on field turf.
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I think he meant for countries that might actually qualify.
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France drew at home to Luxembourg

You never quite know with the French.
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So how aggressive can you be? Rather play for 3 at home against Panama than tomorrow but maybe you get greedy and try for 6.
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brian wrote:I'm assuming it's going to be a 50/50 crowd (I hope I'm wrong)


When I read this, my thought was "where are all these CR fans going to come from?" Then I remembered during the 2014 World Cup, I was seeing CR flags all over the place. There were 4 in my neighborhood of 50 or so houses, and tons in the surrounding towns. Completely forgot I am surrounded by Costa Ricans, probably because none of them have opened a restaurant.

Was it just me, or were the announcers and analysts out of line in saying CR completely dominated the game? I felt the US had much more possession and control of the game, had numerous dangerous breaks, but were undone by some horrendous defensive errors, and CR put away the two opportunities they had. If the ref gives the penalty on Altidore being pulled down, it's a different game. I do agree that CR worked harder for loose balls and played their strategy perfectly, but I just didn't see them dominate the US.
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5:36PM on BEin sports. What kind of game time is that?
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Honduras always plays big qualifiers in late afternoon to maximize the heat/humidity advantage. On Sirius this morning they mentioned that there are thunderstorms in the forecast, so we have that to look forward to.
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In Asia, South Korea has qualified for it's 9th consecutive World Cup drawing Uzbekistan in Tashkent getting 2nd in the group.

Syria get an injury time equalizer in Tehran to grab the 3rd place playoff spot.

https://twitter.com/JogaBonitoUSA/statu ... 0134020096

In the other Group Saudi Arabia host Japan in about 30 minutes, a win for them gets them 2nd ahead of Australia, otherwise they are 3rd.
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England have lined up Brazil, Germany in November and Italy and Holland in March as World Cup preparation friendlies. Plus whatever preparations needed in May/June.

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degenerasian wrote:France drew at home to Luxembourg

You never quite know with the French.


I was at that game, glad i didnt buy the expensive ticket !. So infuriating, seemed like everyone suffered from Arsenal disease "goals are only allowed after a minimum of 12 passes and can t be scored out of the box". 34 shots, a couple hit the posts.
Kurzawa and Lemar just kept shooting crosses into the closest defender (1 succesfull cross combined out of 34 ). They could have played for hours and not scored.
It s like they only give a shit during big games. Spain or Germany usually roll over tiny countries 7 0 but we can t.
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