I'm just so used to the crap of the Bills that I immediately assumed the opposite.
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I'm just so used to the crap of the Bills that I immediately assumed the opposite.
For sure, especially when you start getting into the racial component of that kind of criticism against those guys. I thought Lamar Jackson, especially at the point in the draft when he was taken, was probably one of the best picks of the draft and I hate saying that because I hate the fucking Ravens.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm From time to time he looks awesome, but so have a lot of meh QBs with great arms. It's just funny to me that suddenly Bills fans recognize that their offense is extraordinarily shitty, and while the Newtons and Tyrod Taylors and Lamar Jacksons get the "can't read a defense" label, you've got a guy right here with a 42 Wonderlic showing exactly what it means to struggle reading a defense.
Believe me - Bills fans have known that their offence has been shitty.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm From time to time he looks awesome, but so have a lot of meh QBs with great arms. It's just funny to me that suddenly Bills fans recognize that their offense is extraordinarily shitty, and while the Newtons and Tyrod Taylors and Lamar Jacksons get the "can't read a defense" label, you've got a guy right here with a 42 Wonderlic showing exactly what it means to struggle reading a defense.
He wasn't 2nd either. That said WYO was way the hell down last year. They didn't have any offensive players make all-conference.
I don't think his race had much to do with where he was drafted...the Jamarcus Russells of the world also get drafted high. Just in the fan reactions and excuse making and salivating over a guy who most of the time actually keeps a play from reaching it's potential.brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:46 pmFor sure, especially when you start getting into the racial component of that kind of criticism against those guys. I thought Lamar Jackson, especially at the point in the draft when he was taken, was probably one of the best picks of the draft and I hate saying that because I hate the fucking Ravens.Gunpowder wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:37 pm From time to time he looks awesome, but so have a lot of meh QBs with great arms. It's just funny to me that suddenly Bills fans recognize that their offense is extraordinarily shitty, and while the Newtons and Tyrod Taylors and Lamar Jacksons get the "can't read a defense" label, you've got a guy right here with a 42 Wonderlic showing exactly what it means to struggle reading a defense.
I don't how much value should be placed on a QB's ability to read collegiate defenses, mostly because like everything else it's a night and day difference between what your average college DC is doing and what is done at the pro level. I think very few "average" fans have any kind of real understanding of how much better the schemes and coaching are between even the highest levels of college and the pros.
If Josh Allen (theoretically, I never read a "real" scouting report on him) gets points for his ability to read Air Force or UNLV's defense, so what? It doesn't really project to the pro level no more than someone's 40 time does (dudes in the NFL are obviously much faster than LBs at Air Force as well).
Allen was drafted where he was essentially for two reasons (well, three if you count that he's white). He's tall and he can throw a football harder than anyone other than maybe about four or five people on the planet. Buffalo's coaches hope they can fill in the rest. Maybe they're right. Or maybe not. But he was impressive as fuck in person, that's all I was saying. You could almost literally hear the football flying through the air when he throws it even in a stadium that had about 10,000 people in it.
You don't have to get hopped up for the game. If the Sheep couldn't beat Hawaii, I already know it's going to be a very long season.
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Maybe he started working with Alex Guerrero.brian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:09 pm Good god, this is his age-35 season coming up. If the Packers had him under contract for two more years why the fuck would they extend him beyond that. This is borderline malpractice.
ETA: I honestly thought he was like 32. Unless this is only like a two-year extension I don't see what Green Bay is thinking here.
Maybe, but he's taken plenty of abuse since then and missed the better part of two of the last five seasons. We're not talking about a statue-esque QB like Brady or Manning or even Brees here. Once Rodgers loses that ability to improvise he's basically done. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but why are you going to sign a guy to the largest contract in NFL history that starts with his age 37 season?
This seems wrong
Details on this are amazing...Kendricks turned a $80,000 brokerage account into $1.2 million in just five months!!!! (some reports have said it was over 2 years but the charging document says between July-November 2014).
His bones are still 35, though. It's not really a wear and tear thing with him. Brady rarely gets hit but if he gets drilled like this:
It is. Look at Ben Roethlisberger, for example. The bigger threat is that Rodgers' arm goes, not his athleticism.
He was essentially going to get paid what he wanted to be paid (within reason). Tom Brady could have done the same thing but decided not to (ostensibly to save money for the rest of his team, which I can respek).brian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:25 pm That's a pretty good point. GB could have probably given Rodgers $30M a year through his age 39 season as recently as a year ago. Waiting really just cost them about $15M in guaranteed, real money and probably about $25M in cap hits (spread out, of course). Of course, since their hick, Trump-loving fans really own the team I guess it'll only cost them another MAGA hat or two each.
They knew they were going to have to pay him so not sure why they waited. He got this deal despite not having a collarbone left so he was probably always gonna get paid.
To me, it's even more amazing the Packers are willing to live with DeShone Kizer and his 50.9 completion percentage this preseason as Rodgers' backup QB.
When Rodgers when down and it was obvious Brett Hundley sucked even by backup QB standards, the Packers could have possibly saved their season by signing Kaepernick, but the MAGAts in the fanbase never would have stood (ha!) for that.
Pretty remarkable that Rodgers is #1 all-time in QB rating, ANY/A and interception rate considering that he doesn’t see the field well.
Kizer is so much better than Hundley. Hundley arguably shouldn't even be in the NFL, while Kizer might look passable with WRs that didn't sabotage him regularly.
HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:48 pm Pretty much everything you said about Wentz applies to Rodgers. He very definitely needs his wheels. Can only assume he just doesnt see the field they way you would expect for all the accolades since the guy rarely gets rid of the ball on time. Maybe thats part system (doubt it) and maybe its him trying to stretch the field (possibly) but I just dont see him in the pocket on time. The strengths are kind of the same as Favre. First and foremost, a gunslinger mentality with the athleticism to extend plays so he can unleash the cannon with no conscience.
And really, "on time" means before you are pressured. If there's no one in your face, why throw just for the sake of throwing? Tom Brady will hold the ball forever if you let him.