Bart O’Kavanaugh hearings and inevitable confirmation

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:40 pm

I have writing to do, but I can't turn away...

He just fully embraced drinking beer.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:47 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:40 pm I have writing to do, but I can't turn away...

He just fully embraced drinking beer.

He liked beer then, he likes beer now.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:47 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:40 pm I have writing to do, but I can't turn away...

He just fully embraced drinking beer.
He liked beer then, he likes beer now.

This is surreal.

Although kudos to him for having women friends.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:49 pm

Even Ted Cruz is giving him the "how pathetic" look.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Am I right in thinking that if he had edited this statement down it wouldn't seem so pathetic ?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:53 pm

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm

Is he really blaming this whole thing on Hillary Clinton?

God, what a hack.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm Is he really blaming this whole thing on Hillary Clinton?

God, what a hack.

Gotta play the hits!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:57 pm

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:57 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm Is he really blaming this whole thing on Hillary Clinton?

God, what a hack.
Gotta play the hits!

He even dropped a variant of "I have black friends."

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:58 pm

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:57 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm Is he really blaming this whole thing on Hillary Clinton?

God, what a hack.
Gotta play the hits!
He even dropped a variant of "I have black friends."

I know!

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:00 pm

A_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:58 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:57 pm
A_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:54 pm Is he really blaming this whole thing on Hillary Clinton?

God, what a hack.
Gotta play the hits!
He even dropped a variant of "I have black friends."
I know!

Multiple times, as that wasn't the one I was referring to.

testuser2 · Post by **testuser2** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:02 pm

Looks like Kavanaugh has his own coke as well. He might have overdone it and now has a bad case of the sniffles and some extra rage.

Brontoburglar wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:04 pm

"I'm not at Tobin's house working out."

Oh, this guy can be baited into exploding.

Oh, he just did. "The Swetnick thing is a joke!"

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:04 pm

Will Trump tweet about "Cryin' Brett Kavanaugh" tonight?

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:07 pm

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:10 pm

Hey lawyers - how much weight would these diaries/calendars have in a courtroom setting?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:27 pm

"Yes officer, I'm as sober as a j...whoa no, put the cuffs away I hiasvneowv anveoasnveoa;vo"

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:10 pm Hey lawyers - how much weight would these diaries/calendars have in a courtroom setting?

It depends. On a lot of factors. In a civil case, there would have been discovery and deposition testimony to establish just how reliable and authentic the calendars/diaries are.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:10 pm Hey lawyers - how much weight would these diaries/calendars have in a courtroom setting?

A contemporaneous record, created before a dispute arose, would have great weight in general.

But the persuasive value of these calendars in this situation depends on the premise that something corroborating the event would have been recorded if it happened. And that seems questionable. (Not that an assault would be recorded, but that the going to the house where the assault happened would have been recorded.)

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:41 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:10 pm Hey lawyers - how much weight would these diaries/calendars have in a courtroom setting?
A contemporaneous record, created before a dispute arose, would have great weight in general.

But the persuasive value of these calendars in this situation depends on the premise that something corroborating the event would have been recorded if it happened. And that seems questionable. (Not that an assault would be recorded, but that the going to the house where the assault happened would have been recorded.)

That's what I was wondering. Thanks.

But who the heck writes down every party they are going to or have gone to?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:47 pm

Lindsey Graham is fucking nuts.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:48 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:10 pm Hey lawyers - how much weight would these diaries/calendars have in a courtroom setting?

I think different jurisdictions would differ on the outcome of this question, but in general high weight is given to contemporaneous notes, but Kavanaugh would have to show the notes on the calendar were contemporaneous and not written for a deceptive purpose. I think a strong challenge could be made that a 17 year old kid, especial one whose mother is a District Attorney, wouldn't write down on a calendar that they were attending a kegger. I find it highly unusual that someone still has a 1982 calendar from high school. Who holds on to shit like that?

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:56 pm

Going through his yearbook is really stupid.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:01 pm

This is the shitshow we deserve.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:18 pm

Durbin played him hard.

And Graham is still fucking nuts.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:29 pm

Lindsay Graham. Air Force retiree.

The core values of the USAF:

Integrity first
Service before self
Excellence in all we do

I'd love to see someone call him out to his face about this.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:38 pm

You know, normally character assassination is not something I enjoy... however this is fun to see.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:51 pm

I love the pomposity of these losers and their OMGSHOCKHORROR of the release of the info being timed the way it was.

It was cold, calculated, and exactly out of a playbook you have to run against these people. I just wish they'd say "Merrick Garland," ffs.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:58 pm

Crapo!!!

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:58 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:48 pmI find it highly unusual that someone still has a 1982 calendar from high school. Who holds on to shit like that?

I would bet he left them at his house when he went away to college or whatever, and his parents put them in a box with other high school stuff. And then they just sat in the box.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:58 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:16 pm

I'd just like to be up front and say his confirmation will be the worst I've felt about everything since election night.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:17 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:16 pm I'd just like to be up front and say his confirmation will be the worst I've felt about everything since election night.

Yup.

L-Jam3 · Post by **L-Jam3** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:43 pm

Count me as the third one here resigned to the fact that he’s getting confirmed.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:43 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:16 pm I'd just like to be up front and say his confirmation will be the worst I've felt about everything since election night.

Yes.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:44 pm

I am nauseous.

Post by **brian** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:49 pm

The only good thing is it will finally put a lie to the “good Republican” fiction that some people spin around people like Flake, Collins, Murkowski, Corker et al. There are no good Republicans. The entire party needs to be pushed into the sea.

Post by **brian** » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:50 pm

Metaphorically ideally. Literally if necessary.