Theresa May delays parliamentary vote on Brexit deal
I'd short the pound right about now.As late as Monday morning, May’s cabinet ministers assured the public that the vote would not be delayed.
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I'd short the pound right about now.As late as Monday morning, May’s cabinet ministers assured the public that the vote would not be delayed.
Fucking embarrassing, fucking toriesPruitt wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:13 am Holy shit is the U.K. a mess.
Theresa May delays parliamentary vote on Brexit deal
I'd short the pound right about now.As late as Monday morning, May’s cabinet ministers assured the public that the vote would not be delayed.
This is an enormous problem, especially with Sinclair Broadcasting moving into most media markets. I'll let John Oliver tell it in a much more entertaining and informative way than I can.Johnnie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:31 am Daytime TV is subtly a disgusting conduit for GOP propaganda. During Thanksgiving I was visiting Phoenix. To have something on in the background while we eat breakfast and start prepping for the day we had Fox10 on.
You see the usual uplifting story, a local story, a man on the street story, weather.. Etc. Randomly thrown in was an anti-Mueller story (I think that Jacob Wohl thing) without context or anything. The Talking Head Robotic White Man had reported it with a "Would you believe that?" kind of voice. And then it just went into Black Friday shopping.
This morning I'm in San Antonio and in the lobby area of my hotel for breakfast I'm watching NBC4 and they are doing the same boring morning churn. Out of nowhere is a story about Jerome Corsi suing Mueller. Nothing about, oh, I don't know, Trump being an unindicted co-conspirator and "Individual 1."
These are the type of mind control things that get public perception to turn. It's sneaky and propagandist.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
Trump’s free advertising on CNN throughout 2016 was yet one of the many differences that threw the election.Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:57 am CNN urges people to ignore climate change deniers they regularly feature on TV
Because CNN is in on the fix. They love being called Fake News. Jeff Zucker takes in money when CNN is a punching bag.
It was low-key an exercise into how propaganda works. Bludgeon and bludgeon with messaging every day that this is ok and people end up getting used to thinking this is ok.EnochRoot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:07 amTrump’s free advertising on CNN throughout 2016 was yet one of the many differences that threw the election.Johnnie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:57 am CNN urges people to ignore climate change deniers they regularly feature on TV
Because CNN is in on the fix. They love being called Fake News. Jeff Zucker takes in money when CNN is a punching bag.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
What am I missing? I don’t see anything that says they put the wall in.
Not only do troops never want DVs in a warzone because of the abundance of nonsensical cleanup and dog and pony show fuck-fuck games that would occur, but the point above is salient.The president has not visited troops in combat zones. Mattis said he’d advised the president not to do so, that it was too dangerous. That excuse prevented the president from using the military as a political backdrop and associating it with his political choices. Nor have there been pictures of the president with troops deployed on the border. In these ways, Mattis did his best to shield the military from Trump.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
No clue why. That said I pretty much dislike anyone with the ego necessary to run for president.
(I can tell you why.)EdRomero wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:37 pm Unfair or not, there is so much vitriol against Warren, and not just by the crazy republicans; anti-trumpers hate her too. Even though she's so far away from Hillary on issues, she'll get the same treatment. There will be non stop coverage of the Indian issue while whatever bigger scandal about her opponent will be ignored.
I took a law school class from Warren 10 years ago before she decided to run for the Senate. She does have an ego, as do almost all successful people in any field, but it’s very different from that of most politicians. She treats people with respect — if anything, it can come off as overly formal — and certainly does not seem like she only cares about others as vehicles for her own ambition.
Essentially, for her willingness to hold big banks accountable, among other left and progressive positions.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.
Yeah, very surprised at the vitriol my father and both inlaws have towards her. The Indian blood mischaracterized story definitely worked on my father. Joe Rogan is constantly mocking her for the miniscule percentage or Indian ancestry her 23 and Me results showed, but that completely misses the point. She told a story about how one of her grandparents was part Indian, and the family disavowed their courtship because of the tainted Indian blood. She never claimed status as an Indian tribe member, and despite Trump's lies, she didn't get hired at Harvard because of claiming minority status. At some point, Harvard boasted about her being a minority, but she and others in Harvard Law's administration at the time say she did not approve or consent to Harvard holding her out as a minority.EdRomero wrote: ↑Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:37 pm Unfair or not, there is so much vitriol against Warren, and not just by the crazy republicans; anti-trumpers hate her too. Even though she's so far away from Hillary on issues, she'll get the same treatment. There will be non stop coverage of the Indian issue while whatever bigger scandal about her opponent will be ignored.
Yep. She thought she could put it out there and kill the story, but Trump can always go lower, and he isn't constrained by facts or reality. He can always claim some batshit crazy thing and not get any splashback. Not sure how ti handle Trump, but flinging mud back at him won't move his base. While it might be fun to see someone hit back, they can only damage themselves.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:16 pm Yeah, my issue with Warren is that she did or didn't claim to be Native American, it's how she handled it once Trump got involved.
Her response should've been pretty much a concise distillation of what Syb just said and then move the fuck on. I don't have an issue with her doing the 23 and Me thing, for her own personal satisfaction, but publicly releasing it was about as dumb a move as I've seen politically in a long time.
That judgment really worries me and makes her a nonstarter in a battle with Trump. Don't get into the slop with a pig.
I've been thinking about this and the primaries and what the Dems need is the rough equivalent of a rabbit in track and horse racing terminology. Someone that sticks around as a lightly funded 3rd or 4th ranked candidate with no real chance or desire of winning, whose sole job is to just troll the fuck out of Trump. Just daily barrage of absolute mud slinging, facts and reality be damned (tho, really, all that they'd need to do is keep ticking off the stuff that is publicly available or that has been reported on, even if speculative.)The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 pmYep. She thought she could put it out there and kill the story, but Trump can always go lower, and he isn't constrained by facts or reality. He can always claim some batshit crazy thing and not get any splashback. Not sure how ti handle Trump, but flinging mud back at him won't move his base. While it might be fun to see someone hit back, they can only damage themselves.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:16 pm Yeah, my issue with Warren is that she did or didn't claim to be Native American, it's how she handled it once Trump got involved.
Her response should've been pretty much a concise distillation of what Syb just said and then move the fuck on. I don't have an issue with her doing the 23 and Me thing, for her own personal satisfaction, but publicly releasing it was about as dumb a move as I've seen politically in a long time.
That judgment really worries me and makes her a nonstarter in a battle with Trump. Don't get into the slop with a pig.
Interesting idea, but anyone who hasn't turned on Trump at this point is going to. Ever. Well, at least not because of something a Dem primary longshot throws out there.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:25 pmI've been thinking about this and the primaries and what the Dems need is the rough equivalent of a rabbit in track and horse racing terminology. Someone that sticks around as a lightly funded 3rd or 4th ranked candidate with no real chance or desire of winning, whose sole job is to just troll the fuck out of Trump. Just daily barrage of absolute mud slinging, facts and reality be damned (tho, really, all that they'd need to do is keep ticking off the stuff that is publicly available or that has been reported on, even if speculative.)The Sybian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 pmYep. She thought she could put it out there and kill the story, but Trump can always go lower, and he isn't constrained by facts or reality. He can always claim some batshit crazy thing and not get any splashback. Not sure how ti handle Trump, but flinging mud back at him won't move his base. While it might be fun to see someone hit back, they can only damage themselves.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:16 pm Yeah, my issue with Warren is that she did or didn't claim to be Native American, it's how she handled it once Trump got involved.
Her response should've been pretty much a concise distillation of what Syb just said and then move the fuck on. I don't have an issue with her doing the 23 and Me thing, for her own personal satisfaction, but publicly releasing it was about as dumb a move as I've seen politically in a long time.
That judgment really worries me and makes her a nonstarter in a battle with Trump. Don't get into the slop with a pig.
Stormy Daniels' lawyer was who I was hoping would be in the mix, but alas... Anyways, he's the type of guy I'm thinking of... Keep the "real" candidates out of the deep mud, allowing them to kind of stay above the fray until they have to engage later on.
mister d wrote:Couldn't have pegged me better.
EnochRoot wrote:I mean, whatever. Johnnie's all hot cuz I ride him.