This 'Redskins' Thing

[Pruitt]

"Blessing?" or did the Native community curse the team and gain some revenge?

[TT2.0]

"Blessing?" or did the Native community curse the team and gain some revenge?

can alex smith vote?

[Pruitt]

Bruce Allen to remain as Redskins president, will have expanded role on business side

I guess nothing succeeds like failure.

[DSafetyGuy]

Bruce Allen to remain as Redskins president, will have expanded role on business side

I guess nothing succeeds like failure.

It seems the key is, when you get high enough up the ladder, hang onto a weapon long enough to still stab all your underlings in the back.

[Pruitt]

My university's mens teams are called the Redmen.

I was always told and was convinced that the name - like the Syracuse Orangemen - came from the team's colours. Be that as it may, McGill has just announced that they are changing the team's names.

https://www.mcgill.ca/principal/communi ... edmen-name

Life marches on...

ETA: I just did some research - logo used to be an Indian chief's head.

[brian]

I just found out a couple of days ago the new Tribal Chairman of the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe is a former CMU football player so it would appear our nickname remains very safe for the immediate future.

[Pruitt]

I just did some more reading about this - as I was sure the name reflected the team's colours...

The name "Redmen" was first published in 1928 as "Red Men" and was used to describe the red uniforms worn by McGill sports teams. According to McGill historian Stanley Frost, the name may have also been a nod to McGill's Scottish roots, since Celts were known as "Red Men" for their red hair

The trouble started in the 80s when the football team chose a new logo.



Public outcry caused them to switch logos, but the damage was done as the connection between Indigenous people and the nickname was made.

Nearly 80% of current students voted last year to change the nickname, so that's that.

I can only assume that the women's tams will keep their nickname- "Martlets" (a bird that is a heraldic symbol)

[sancarlos]

I was always told and was convinced that the name - like the Syracuse Orangemen - came from the team's colours.

I always assumed that the Syracuse nickname was historically-based. (English/Dutch Protestants).

[wlu_lax6]

I just did some more reading about this - as I was sure the name reflected the team's colours...

The name "Redmen" was first published in 1928 as "Red Men" and was used to describe the red uniforms worn by McGill sports teams. According to McGill historian Stanley Frost, the name may have also been a nod to McGill's Scottish roots, since Celts were known as "Red Men" for their red hair

The trouble started in the 80s when the football team chose a new logo.



Public outcry caused them to switch logos, but the damage was done as the connection between Indigenous people and the nickname was made.

Nearly 80% of current students voted last year to change the nickname, so that's that.

I can only assume that the women's tams will keep their nickname- "Martlets" (a bird that is a heraldic symbol)

NPR's Only A Game covered this in early February (https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2019/02/ ... 9-2019-oag)

[Pruitt]

NPR's Only A Game covered this in early February (https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2019/02/ ... 9-2019-oag)

Amazing how times change. I was the Sports Editor at one of the two papers and did colour commentary on hockey, basketball and football games, and this was not an issue at all.

It'll be interesting to see what the new name will be. As long as it's not "Red Storm" like St. John's.

[mister d]

Brown Men.

[Rush2112]

Frogs would go over well.

[Pruitt]

Frogs would go over well.

Gates would be stormed - McGill was one of the traditional bastions of "Anglais" power in the province.

I have a feeling the new name will be "Reds" or something designed not to offend and that reflects the realities of the more disadvantaged members of the McGill community.

Maybe something like "Fighting Therapy Dogs."