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degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Japan defeated Iran 3-0 in the Asian Cup semifinal

Wanted to show the 2nd Japanese goal. There is no way that's a penalty for handball.

Even VAR couldn't correct it.

Closer look

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:05 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm
Wanted to show the 2nd Japanese goal. There is no way that's a penalty for handball.

Even VAR couldn't correct it.

Closer look

That's a subjective call and very close to the line, but I'd call it a handball. The defender didn't intentionally handle the ball, but his arm was away from his body when the ball hit, so for me, that's a handball.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:12 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:05 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm
Wanted to show the 2nd Japanese goal. There is no way that's a penalty for handball.

Even VAR couldn't correct it.

Closer look

That's a subjective call and very close to the line, but I'd call it a handball. The defender didn't intentionally handle the ball, but his arm was away from his body when the ball hit, so for me, that's a handball.

But he's sliding and the ball hits the arm behind him. Where else can his arm be? Unless you are penalizing him for leaving his feet and purposely leaving a trailing arm.

If here were standing then yes, his arm is extended and that's a foul.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:09 pm

It's a bit picky, but I've seen that called before.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:02 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:12 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:05 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 pm
Wanted to show the 2nd Japanese goal. There is no way that's a penalty for handball.

Even VAR couldn't correct it.

Closer look

That's a subjective call and very close to the line, but I'd call it a handball. The defender didn't intentionally handle the ball, but his arm was away from his body when the ball hit, so for me, that's a handball.
But he's sliding and the ball hits the arm behind him. Where else can his arm be? Unless you are penalizing him for leaving his feet and purposely leaving a trailing arm.

If here were standing then yes, his arm is extended and that's a foul.

It could really go either way, and I wouldn't be upset if they didn't call it, but I would call that a penalty. It doesn't matter if there was nowhere else his hand could be, he gained an advantage by having his arm out away from his body.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:42 am

The 2022 World Cup hosts Qatar win the Asian Cup for the first time!

They outscored their opponents 19-1 in the tournament.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:51 am

degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:42 am The 2022 World Cup hosts Qatar win the Asian Cup for the first time!

They outscored their opponents 19-1 in the tournament.

Would be more impressive if there were actually Qataris on the team.

Qatar’s current football squad is made up of players from ten different countries

That article is from 2017, but nothing has changed. FIFA is a joke.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:59 am

Pruitt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:51 am
degenerasian wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:42 am The 2022 World Cup hosts Qatar win the Asian Cup for the first time!

They outscored their opponents 19-1 in the tournament.

Would be more impressive if there were actually Qataris on the team.

Qatar’s current football squad is made up of players from ten different countries

That article is from 2017, but nothing has changed. FIFA is a joke.

i don't know if that's entirely true.

I looked at the squad and there are 7(?) players not born in Qatar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFC_ ... uads#Qatar

If I did a comparison with Canada, I think we come out worse.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:52 pm

Doesn't get any better for Jose

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -team.html

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:01 am

Soccer Fan Jailed for Wearing Qatar Team Shirt in the UAE

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:21 am

Baloney wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:52 pm Doesn't get any better for Jose

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -team.html

Actually it does

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... adrid-fine

José Mourinho accepts prison sentence for tax fraud but will not serve time

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 pm

Baloney wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:21 am
Baloney wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:52 pm Doesn't get any better for Jose

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -team.html
Actually it does

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... adrid-fine

José Mourinho accepts prison sentence for tax fraud but will not serve time

The picture in that article shows Mourinho at a hockey game in Russia. I'd bet a few rubles that his next gig is in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:30 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 pm
Baloney wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:21 am
Baloney wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:52 pm Doesn't get any better for Jose

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -team.html
Actually it does

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... adrid-fine

José Mourinho accepts prison sentence for tax fraud but will not serve time
The picture in that article shows Mourinho at a hockey game in Russia. I'd bet a few rubles that his next gig is in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

Right because Zenit hire ex-Chelsea managers

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:32 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 pm [

The picture in that article shows Mourinho at a hockey game in Russia. I'd bet a few rubles that his next gig is in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

But did you see the video?

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:09 am

So I have to believe this goes to court.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... rdiff-city

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:15 am

I mean...they should probably pay something. I would think they have some kind of insurance policies for things like this.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:43 am

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:49 am

He was good in "The Town".

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 am

mister d wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:49 am He was good in "The Town".

I have been racking my brain to figure out who it is that OGS reminds me of! Thank you!

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:04 am

I could listen to Michael Davies say his name on a loop 24 hours per day.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:29 am

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:41 am

BUt for reference, here it is anyway

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:58 am

A_B wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:41 am BUt for reference, here it is anyway

I hate to say it, but today, that's a fairly routine save. Take Pele and Word Cup out of the equation, and it's a header from 8 yards out. Banks had a ton of time to set up as the cross looped in, he was just waiting for it.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:07 am

I hate to say it, but I don't think you really hated to say that.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:11 am

Nah dude.

Nope.

Negatory.

That save is top class. He has to go from guarding against a near post cross (check that Brazilian dude sitting right on top of him at the 6*) keep his footwork solid as he slides over with the cross and then make a cat-like reflex save on a rocket header.

That is fucking text book stuff. Is it the best save ever made? No. But it is an absolutely beautiful play and deserves its place in history.

* - This is what really makes it an incredible play. If not for that guy on his near post, yes, he can just slide over from a position closer to the center of his goal. But that guy forces him off his line and way farther over than you'd normally see a keeper who knows a cross is coming. That he is so far off his line and off center makes that a VERY difficult play for a lot of goalies. Most goalies would've been in scramble mode and they wouldn't have had their feet set and ready to make a save in either direction.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:19 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:11 am Nah dude.

Nope.

Negatory.

That save is top class. He has to go from guarding against a near post cross (check that Brazilian dude sitting right on top of him at the 6*) keep his footwork solid as he slides over with the cross and then make a cat-like reflex save on a rocket header.

That is fucking text book stuff. Is it the best save ever made? No. But it is an absolutely beautiful play and deserves its place in history.

* - This is what really makes it an incredible play. If not for that guy on his near post, yes, he can just slide over from a position closer to the center of his goal. But that guy forces him off his line and way farther over than you'd normally see a keeper who knows a cross is coming. That he is so far off his line and off center makes that a VERY difficult play for a lot of goalies. Most goalies would've been in scramble mode and they wouldn't have had their feet set and ready to make a save in either direction.

Rass, this is why I hated to say it. I knew I'd get blowback. I see your point, and maybe he made it seem easier by getting his feet set quicker than most, but it looks like he is in position before the ball gets to Pele, and the ball isn't hit all that hard, and not well placed. Goalies today are miles ahead of Banks' day athletically, so I do think it was comparatively a great save for his era, but today, I think every EPL goalie makes that save almost every time.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:35 am

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:19 am
Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:11 am Nah dude.

Nope.

Negatory.

That save is top class. He has to go from guarding against a near post cross (check that Brazilian dude sitting right on top of him at the 6*) keep his footwork solid as he slides over with the cross and then make a cat-like reflex save on a rocket header.

That is fucking text book stuff. Is it the best save ever made? No. But it is an absolutely beautiful play and deserves its place in history.

* - This is what really makes it an incredible play. If not for that guy on his near post, yes, he can just slide over from a position closer to the center of his goal. But that guy forces him off his line and way farther over than you'd normally see a keeper who knows a cross is coming. That he is so far off his line and off center makes that a VERY difficult play for a lot of goalies. Most goalies would've been in scramble mode and they wouldn't have had their feet set and ready to make a save in either direction.
Rass, this is why I hated to say it. I knew I'd get blowback. I see your point, and maybe he made it seem easier by getting his feet set quicker than most, but it looks like he is in position before the ball gets to Pele, and the ball isn't hit all that hard, and not well placed. Goalies today are miles ahead of Banks' day athletically, so I do think it was comparatively a great save for his era, but today, I think every EPL goalie makes that save almost every time.

David De Gea would have controlled it with his foot then dribbled it all the way down to the other end and slotted it home.

rass · Post by **rass** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:40 am

syb, probably, wrote: Pelé save? More like Pe-lame save!

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:43 pm

Interesting story by SI
https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/02/12/ed ... -auschwitz

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:55 pm

Hey, Syb. I found a new avatar for you!

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:59 pm

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:43 pm Interesting story by SI
https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/02/12/ed ... -auschwitz

Great story.

The Simon Kuper book is fascinating.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:04 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:11 am Nah dude.

Nope.

Negatory.

That save is top class. He has to go from guarding against a near post cross (check that Brazilian dude sitting right on top of him at the 6*) keep his footwork solid as he slides over with the cross and then make a cat-like reflex save on a rocket header.

That is fucking text book stuff. Is it the best save ever made? No. But it is an absolutely beautiful play and deserves its place in history.

* - This is what really makes it an incredible play. If not for that guy on his near post, yes, he can just slide over from a position closer to the center of his goal. But that guy forces him off his line and way farther over than you'd normally see a keeper who knows a cross is coming. That he is so far off his line and off center makes that a VERY difficult play for a lot of goalies. Most goalies would've been in scramble mode and they wouldn't have had their feet set and ready to make a save in either direction.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Phoenix from the Flames wouldn't get made today, the Archie Gemmill one is hilarious

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:58 am

Yeah, one of the things I always found pretty funny (ridiculous) was the notion that Banks MEANT to put that ball over the bar. The brilliance of the play is getting to the spot and figuring the angle off the bounce. But he wasn't calculating beyond that.

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:43 pm

I've got half an eye on the Tottenham Dortmund match, and Pulisic has looked quite good thus far. He's flying all over the place and pushing play.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:17 pm

govmentchedda wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:43 pm I've got half an eye on the Tottenham Dortmund match, and Pulisic has looked quite good thus far. He's flying all over the place and pushing play.

Must have been the first half hour,. He disappeared in the 2nd half.

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:56 am

World Cup 2030: Chile to join Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay in joint bid

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/4724 ... cli-hRDvLY

Would be a strong bid

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:30 pm

Baloney wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:56 am World Cup 2030: Chile to join Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay in joint bid

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/4724 ... cli-hRDvLY

Would be a strong bid

yeah, i think this has always been know that the centenary world cup would be here.

and I hear it's almost certain that 2034 will be in China, although England wants it. (maybe china and england for 2034/2038 in either order)

Baloney · Post by **Baloney** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:37 pm

England will be 2066, 100 years after their win and 1,000 after the Norman Conquest

govmentchedda · Post by **govmentchedda** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:19 pm

Man U rolling, up 2-0 just before the break at Stamford Bridge. The half an eye I've had on the game has me thinking the game is closer than the score would have you believe. Pogba had the assist on the first goal to Herrera, crossing in from the left. Paul scored on a diving header off a cross from the right from Rashford. The thing that inspired me to post though was that Pogba's celebration after his goal, was basically him just staying where he was in the 6 yd box on the ground, like he'd just finished a long stretch on a slip and slide. Not sure I've ever seen a player celebrate (and teammates pile on) right in front of the opposition goal. No one from Chelsea seemed to take offense, but it struck me as potentially against the unwritten rules regarding celebrations.