Trump Admin Meltdown Thread Part III - A Democratic House

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:35 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:23 pm
Who signs a Bible?

(and what is the 'Military Challenge Edition'?)

That is simply the most white American thing I have ever heard of.

(Sorry...)

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:28 pm

Putting his name on another book he didn't write. The man puts his name on everything.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:15 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:28 pm Putting his name on another book he didn't write. The man puts his name on everything.

Straight outta the king James playbook.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:45 am

I'm surprised he doesn't hand out The Art of the Deal at every event, then he could brag about sales numbers. Even better, he could have the government buy all the copies, and he makes royalties. America First!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:03 am

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:23 pm
sancarlos wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:44 pm
He signed the covers...

Who signs a Bible?

Inside the cover is where you would sign if you were a normal person - “For David, on your first communion - Love Mom and Dad” etc.

Not so much the cover. That same rule applies for non-bibles too...

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:28 am

Well, he is the ressurection and he is the light...

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:18 am

Can we talk about the signature? I’ve seen some shitty scribbles but come on.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:51 pm

Looks like a string of caps lock Ns. It's terrible.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:49 pm

BSF21 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:18 am Can we talk about the signature? I’ve seen some shitty scribbles but come on.

Looks like a telephone cord tied in knots on the ends

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:35 pm

A Florida Massage Parlor Owner Has Been Selling Chinese Execs Access to Trump at Mar-a-Lago

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:10 pm

Pelosi: Impeaching Trump would be too divisive

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:23 pm

What Pelosi isn't saying but can't say is that the Dems WANT to run against Trump in 2020. He's not some freaking wizard, he's the most hated president in modern American history, regardless of what his brain-damaged base think about him. Trump is much easier to beat than Pence.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:32 pm

brian wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:23 pm What Pelosi isn't saying but can't say is that the Dems WANT to run against Trump in 2020. He's not some freaking wizard, he's the most hated president in modern American history, regardless of what his brain-damaged base think about him. Trump is much easier to beat than Pence.

You know, I am very confident in my own intelligence, and have been following politics since the late Nixon years...

But this did not occur to me. Probably because of the sheer hatred I have for Trump and his fart catchers.

Makes sense... however, there is the fact that the Democrats lost to him once already. Can the figure out a way not to blow it again in 2020?

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:33 pm

Fuck all that.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:35 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:33 pm Fuck all that.

Seconded.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:43 pm

Same calculation lead to a lot of us cheering him to republican nomination in 2016 too. That didn’t work out.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:45 pm

Its the same safe-play bullshit centrism that got us here. And, if you want to be just slightly cynical, its just a thinly veiled attack on the far left in her own party.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:52 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:32 pm
brian wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:23 pm What Pelosi isn't saying but can't say is that the Dems WANT to run against Trump in 2020. He's not some freaking wizard, he's the most hated president in modern American history, regardless of what his brain-damaged base think about him. Trump is much easier to beat than Pence.
You know, I am very confident in my own intelligence, and have been following politics since the late Nixon years...

But this did not occur to me. Probably because of the sheer hatred I have for Trump and his fart catchers.

Makes sense... however, there is the fact that the Democrats lost to him once already. Can the figure out a way not to blow it again in 2020?

Even though 2018 was a wave election for Democrats, a hardcore Trumpist was elected Governor of Florida and the GOP won almost every statewide race in Ohio. So Trump could absolutely get re-elected if the Democratic candidate runs a bad campaign. At least they announced Milwaukee as the convention site so we won’t get a repeat of the 2016 debacle where Clinton completely ignored Wisconsin. That is one of the three must-win states along with Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:57 pm

I agree there should be impeachment hearings but not until either the Mueller report is released or House investigations have had some time to happen. Unfortunately that would push things to 2020 most likely and there’s little wisdom in impeaching a president a few months before that president is running for re-election.

I’m not swayed by arguments that it doesn’t matter because the Senate won’t convinct anyway but I am swayed by the argument that there isn’t a huge groundswell of support for impeachment among Americans.

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:06 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:43 pm Same calculation lead to a lot of us cheering him to republican nomination in 2016 too. That didn’t work out.

I’m not saying the Dems should be as overconfident as 2016 and I’m not certain how that’s possible anyway but lending any kind power to Trump that he doesn’t possess is just silly.

He’s a wet, old, brain-wormed racist, not some political genius playing 4D chess like some people insist on assuming. There’s no wizard behind the curtain any more and he can’t run on anything other than his record, which is pretty grim other than the continuation of the Obama bull market.

I’m not saying he can’t win again I’m just saying that he’s the Republican I’d want to run against if I somehow won the Dem nomination.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:07 pm

Interesting when she does and doesn’t break with majority polling (let alone majority polling among the party she reps)?

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:14 pm

CNN will keep Trump in power. They are making a shitload of money right now. Trump 24/7.

Trump is not a wizard but he tweets every morning while taking a dump and CNN runs it.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:17 pm

Unless there is some sort of clairvoyant long game 7D chess scheming going on from Pelosi, she's dead fucking wrong. "He's just not worth it" were her literal words. Unbelievable.

We're beyond impeachment with this guy. He's being insulated by Republicans who fail to do their jobs.

Also, where's this guy's fucking tax returns already?

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:51 pm

I get what you guys are saying but I’m not you’re realizing the House can’t prepare articles of impeachment without at least a bare minimum of criminal charges. I get the full litany of stuff has been reported in the press but that’s not presentable as evidence in an impeachment trial. Since the GOP wouldn’t investigate him the House has to and that’s gonna take at least a little time, later this fall at the absolute soonest.

And I’m sure no one wants to hear this either but this isn’t like impeaching Clinton since Trump is up for re-election and the realities of the political calculus there has the risk of turning Trump into a victim right before the election which is the last thing anyone should want.

Without some buy-in from at least a few Republicans, it would be an unnecessary and self-inflicted political circus. The House gets the same benefit by investigating every thing it can about him without any of the possible negatives.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm

Let’s say I accept all that ... why fucking say it? What purpose does “we don’t really think his actions are that bad”, which is the optics of the quote, serve aside from attempting to diminish the power of those willing to threaten it?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:12 pm

Hey guys, maybe this is what sinks him.

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:42 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm Let’s say I accept all that ... why fucking say it? What purpose does “we don’t really think his actions are that bad”, which is the optics of the quote, serve aside from attempting to diminish the power of those willing to threaten it?

There I agree with you. All Pelosi has to say is let the investigations take their course and we’ll see what our constituents have to say. Whether they do it or not is beside the point then.

Post by **brian** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:45 pm

Letting the possibility of actual impeachment — no matter how remote — hang over Trump’s head is a better dick move too.

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:51 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:12 pm Hey guys, maybe this is what sinks him.

In a way, yes.

“He’s just not worth it” will echo in Trump’s brain.

She’s playing him like a fiddle.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 pm

If the Democrats really want to get rid of Trump, they should make him their nominee.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:21 am

Rex wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 pm If the Democrats really want to get rid of Trump, they should make him their nominee.

LIKE

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:26 am

What brian and enoch said.

She's fucking with him.

And I want to underscore what brian said about the logistics here. Unless Meuller comes out swinging and does the unprecedented, the House needs to carry out its own investigation. That's why Nadler had to go all in with his 81 letters last week. 99 percent of that stuff has already been turned over to various other investigations, but Nadler needs to introduce into the House records.

If you guys want to be indignant, save it up for last week's bullshit in fighting over Rep. Omar, allowing HR1 to get completely ignored by the media. We could win the election running on the fact that McConnell and the GOP are basically saying more democracy is bad for Republicans.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:29 am

I want him gone too, but I understand the optics here. You impeach him and all his base hears is "Dems finally got a eeked out majority in Congress because of California libtards and they wanted him out because they hate our beloved MAGA leader so much that they'd do anything to remove him."

Beat him at the ballot box 80/20 and he goes away as the worst experiment of all time and they slink back to their holes. There's no win on the Democratic side by removing him forcefully from office. Let him suffer. I'm not inclined to believe he makes it another 2 years health-wise anyhow.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:33 am

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:26 amIf you guys want to be indignant, save it up for last week's bullshit in fighting over Rep. Omar, allowing HR1 to get completely ignored by the media.

I don't see this as unrelated.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am

It's 10:00 a.m. on a Tuesday. Isn;t there some work that needs to be attended to?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:36 am

You can tell he has no clue what airline it was

Post by **brian** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:44 am

Have we considered that maybe Trump is dril? (Or I guess dril is Trump?)

DSafetyGuy · Post by **DSafetyGuy** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:00 am

Here I am, somewhere between DTW and SJC, wondering what happened with a plane.

Post by **brian** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:07 am

DSafetyGuy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:00 am Here I am, somewhere between DTW and SJC, wondering what happened with a plane.

He's referring to the Ethiopian Airlines crash from Sunday. Was the second Boeing 737 MAX 8 plane to crash this year (one in Indonesia earlier in year).

Post by **brian** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:25 am

Pretty good point here: