2019 NCAA Tournament Thread

Post by **brian** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:58 pm

If I'm being forced to choke down Duke-MSU, at least one of these teams will be losing in excruciating fashion.

Post by **brian** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:03 pm

At the time of the play, I thought this out of bounds review with 8.4 seconds left might be the longest in NCAA history.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:08 pm

Ball don't lie. Hated that last foul call

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:11 pm

Fuck. Duke.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:13 pm

I don't live in MI, so it's easy for me. But I will ALWAYS root for Duke to die in a fire. ALWAYS.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:08 pm Ball don't lie. Hated that last foul call

On the drive? They got him with the body and on the arm.

I’m sitting #1 in a 140 person pool with 3 of the 4 final four and the final pair. I’m big time team Shirley right now.

Post by **brian** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 pm

Same. I had two of the four FF teams (Virginia and MSU), but if Kentucky had won would have had three.

But I have UVA winning it all so if they do I have a chance.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:47 pm

I’m going to root for UVA but IMO Texas Tech has been the best team this tournament. They’ve been really impressive and will be hard to beat now that they have a much improved offense to go with that awesome defense.

Post by **Shirley** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:54 pm

Whew, what a weekend of games.

I had a hard time going to sleep last night. What an incredible game with an incredible finish. And my team actually won it! I was in 8th grade the last time UVA made a Final Four. At that point in my life, I just assumed those happened all the time (UVA had just been three years prior and barely missed out the year before).

And to have this finally happen the year after UMBC ... well, I think it's the kind of thing that has made all of us gravitate to sports.

AB, I'm sorry your Cats lost to Auburn. I don't particularly like Cal or UK, but I really think Bruce Pearl is a snake. The man can coach, but he's a snake.

I wouldn't have actually minded losing to Kentucky in the Final Four - all that talent - but I do NOT want to lose to Bruce Pearl. I'm hoping Guy can keep it up and De'Andre Hunter can snap out of his minor funk. And while we're at it, let Diakite keep playing the best ball of his life along with little Kihei Clark. If UVA is hitting shots like in the second half last night, I don't think Auburn stands a chance. Hell, anyone without a nuclear hot Carsen Edwards wouldn't have stood much of a chance.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:07 pm

Joe K wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:04 pm To expand on my last post, Kentucky was 16-60 on 3s this tournament. That’s atrocious and the fact they came this close to the Final Four is a testament to how well they played defensively. It’s almost impossible to win in today’s era of basketball without even competent outside shooting.

watching Kentucky very closely for the last two games ... they're incredibly athletic, but damn, that's their best trait

good news for AB is that team should be back intact next year minus PJ and Travis

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:17 pm

Keldon and herro gone too

Also quickley will transfer.

Brontoburglar · Post by **Brontoburglar** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:04 am

A_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:17 pm Keldon and herro gone too

Also quickley will transfer.

I like Herro but he could use another year. Same with Keldon.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:43 am

I know its not gospel, but ESPN has them 17 and 19. Certainly feels high enough to start getting paid.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:46 am

They would benefit, sure. But they've been recruited over, too. Not saying they wouldn't be good enough to beat out the freshmen, just saying that's been the cycle.

Ashton Hagans was an utter disaster yesterday. The one thing you cannot do is let Auburn turn you over. That's more important than the threes, IMO. And he was loose with the ball.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am

I love that Duke was deprived of one more possession because they didn't have enough fouls called on them. I don't think it's ironic but it's something.

Joe K · Post by **Joe K** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:12 am

A_B wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:46 am They would benefit, sure. But they've been recruited over, too. Not saying they wouldn't be good enough to beat out the freshmen, just saying that's been the cycle.

Ashton Hagans was an utter disaster yesterday. The one thing you cannot do is let Auburn turn you over. That's more important than the threes, IMO. And he was loose with the ball.

The turnovers were an issue but if you can hold Auburn to 60 points in regulation you’ve just gotta find a way to generate enough offense to win. Kentucky only scored 40 points in the last 30 minutes of regulation. That’s just brutal given their talent level. It’s especially frustrating considering that Kentucky scored 80+ on Auburn in both regular season games. But Calipari just defaults to taking the air out of the ball come tournament time.

ETA: Calipari even did this with the 2012 title team. They were up 41-27 at the half would’ve beaten Kansas by 25+ in the title game had he let them keep pushing the pace but instead Kentucky slowed it down, scored only 26 points on the second half, and the lead got down to 6 in the final minute.

wlu_lax6 · Post by **wlu_lax6** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:41 am

Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am I love that Duke was deprived of one more possession because they didn't have enough fouls called on them. I don't think it's ironic but it's something.

Most games see both teams get to the bonus in the 2nd half. But do any coaches encourage teams to give up a soft foul to have that as an option late in a close game?

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:43 am

wlu_lax6 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:41 am
Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:09 am I love that Duke was deprived of one more possession because they didn't have enough fouls called on them. I don't think it's ironic but it's something.
Most games see both teams get to the bonus in the 2nd half. But do any coaches encourage teams to give up a soft foul to have that as an option late in a close game?

Absolutely, I've seen it. I've seen a coach sub in the 12th man just to ring up three quick fouls before to get to 6.

HaulCitgo · Post by **HaulCitgo** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:18 pm

Yeah that might fall into the category of bad coaching by good coaches.

Post by **brian** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:32 pm

HaulCitgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:18 pm Yeah that might fall into the category of bad coaching by good coaches.

It only makes sense to do that in the last minute or so of a game, but if you think there's a chance you're going to need to foul, having to foul four times in 20 seconds is a hell of a lot harder than fouling once in 20 seconds.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:53 pm

that must happen in one of the tv timeouts, for example the under 12:00.

"hey guys, we have no fouls so far so if you feel the guy is going to get past you, just grab him before he shoots, we can afford a few of those"

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:14 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:53 pm that must happen in one of the tv timeouts, for example the under 12:00.

"hey guys, we have no fouls so far so if you feel the guy is going to get past you, just grab him before he shoots, we can afford a few of those"

Or just aggressively go for steals with reach-ins. If you don't get called for the foul, you might get a steal. It's a win-win.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:55 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:14 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:53 pm that must happen in one of the tv timeouts, for example the under 12:00.

"hey guys, we have no fouls so far so if you feel the guy is going to get past you, just grab him before he shoots, we can afford a few of those"
Or just aggressively go for steals with reach-ins. If you don't get called for the foul, you might get a steal. It's a win-win.

That's exactly what I was expecting to happen last night, then NOPE!

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:08 pm

The Muffet McGraw clip that went viral was quite something.

I am all in on a McGraw/Poppovich ticket for 2020.

duff · Post by **duff** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:32 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:08 pm The Muffet McGraw clip that went viral was quite something.

I am all in on a McGraw/Poppovich ticket for 2020.

She's just some hay-seed from South Bend.

Post by **brian** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:59 pm

duff wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:32 pm
tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:08 pm The Muffet McGraw clip that went viral was quite something.

I am all in on a McGraw/Poppovich ticket for 2020.
She's just some hay-seed from South Bend.

Like (or thumbs up or +1) or whichever you prefer.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:01 pm

What a collapse.

And Virginia only has 4 team fouls with 20 seconds left.

Post by **brian** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm

The big mistake Auburn made was fouling after Guy dribbled off his foot.

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:01 pm What a collapse.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:13 pm

Someone check on Shirley...

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:13 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm The big mistake Auburn made was fouling after Guy dribbled off his foot.

Yeah. Probably too much to ask of Auburn there, but yes.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:14 pm

Unbelievable.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:15 pm

It was a collapse UVA up by 10 is like being up by 20

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:19 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:13 pm Someone check on Shirley...

He should be fine!

rass · Post by **rass** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:21 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:15 pm It was a collapse UVA up by 10 is like being up by 20

You’re as defensive as they are. Wasn’t calling you out.

degenerasian · Post by **degenerasian** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:30 pm

brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm The big mistake Auburn made was fouling after Guy dribbled off his foot.

It adds to the discussion we've been having about having too many fouls to give. If Auburn is in the penalty that foul never happens and the game is over.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:37 pm

degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:30 pm
brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm The big mistake Auburn made was fouling after Guy dribbled off his foot.
It adds to the discussion we've been having about having too many fouls to give. If Auburn is in the penalty that foul never happens and the game is over.

If the Refs had caught that double-dribble, the game is over.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:22 pm

DaveInSeattle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:37 pm
degenerasian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:30 pm
brian wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:12 pm The big mistake Auburn made was fouling after Guy dribbled off his foot.
It adds to the discussion we've been having about having too many fouls to give. If Auburn is in the penalty that foul never happens and the game is over.
If the Refs had caught that double-dribble, the game is over.

That would have been a hard call in first minute let alone endgame. However the foul on the three was pretty clear cut.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:34 pm

Take the under in the final. Be advised, it may be 64.5 points.

Post by **brian** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:49 pm

Yo dawg I heard you like rock fights so you get rock fights in your rock fights for the rest of the season.