This Is The Thread Discussing The Missing Plane
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I'm glad we're clearing up that the co-pilot of the plane was not wanted as a terrorist. What an epic failure of the system that would be if he was allowed to fly commercial planes while on some sort of terror list.
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Pretty damn horrifying for sure. Suicide by pilot - that's fucked up.
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The Sybian wrote:I know I am beating a dead horse here, but I saw a bit of CNN with the sound off at the gym. I tried to avoid the closed captioning, but can't stop sometimes. The headline was something to the effect of, "Internet websites theorize that plane landed in [insert small island whose name I can't recall]." 30 minutes of discussion followed. Repulsive. They are dedicating large chunks of coverage to tin hat websites in a non-ironic way. WTF?
You don't remember the olden days, when Walter Cronkite would report on what the weird dude who hangs out across from the post office had to say about world events?
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Sure.mister d wrote:"Plane just stopped working" probably scares me more than suicide by pilot.
And yet, pilot took a working plane and slammed it into a mountain is harder for me to accept than something breaking.
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And reported @HowardStern'sBalls Twitter feed as fact without citing their source??Rex wrote:The Sybian wrote:I know I am beating a dead horse here, but I saw a bit of CNN with the sound off at the gym. I tried to avoid the closed captioning, but can't stop sometimes. The headline was something to the effect of, "Internet websites theorize that plane landed in [insert small island whose name I can't recall]." 30 minutes of discussion followed. Repulsive. They are dedicating large chunks of coverage to tin hat websites in a non-ironic way. WTF?
You don't remember the olden days, when Walter Cronkite would report on what the weird dude who hangs out across from the post office had to say about world events?
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yeah and worse is that he had to crash the plane slowly and methodically, tricking the plane into thinking that everything was normal.tennbengal wrote:Sure.mister d wrote:"Plane just stopped working" probably scares me more than suicide by pilot.
And yet, pilot took a working plane and slammed it into a mountain is harder for me to accept than something breaking.
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Deliberate acts: 5 cases of pilots intentionally crashing (cnn)
ETA: The surprising frequency of pilot suicides (wapo)
I wonder if they take the same antidepressant meds the school/workplace shooters are on?
ETA: The surprising frequency of pilot suicides (wapo)
I wonder if they take the same antidepressant meds the school/workplace shooters are on?
While incredibly rare for a pilot to kill himself — and everyone else on a plane — there is both national and international precedent for what experts call “aircraft-assisted pilot suicides.” According to Federal Aviation Administration data, 24 American pilots have killed themselves while flying their planes in the last two decades. Twenty-three of those pilots intentionally crashed their craft, and one student pilot jumped out of his plane mid-flight.
All of the pilots who killed themselves were male and middle-aged.
While none of of the American pilots who killed themselves were flying a big commercial aircraft, it has happened elsewhere.
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Depression appears to be the leading cause of aircraft-assisted suicides, and in 2010, the FAA did away with a generations-old ban on pilots taking anti-depressants . The aviation agency, which has mental health restrictions for pilots, now can issue certificates permitting pilots to take Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, and Lexapro, CNN reports.
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so apparently (source: The Internet), the FAA has a protocol that when a pilot has to pee, a flight attendant is called in to occupy the pilot's seat until the pilot returns. EU carriers do not have the same rule.
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I noticed this the last time I flew first class. I just figured it was blowjob time. And it was for my security - who knew?
Who knows? Maybe, you were kidnapped, tied up, taken away and held for ransom.
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Must have made it real awkward when you jerked the pilot's pants down on his way to the bathroom, then.howard wrote:I noticed this the last time I flew first class. I just figured it was blowjob time. And it was for my security - who knew?
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Kind of apropos of nothing, but there's a big stink this week about how the US Air Marshall Service is a big flying booze and fuckfest.
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Just trying to keep up with the DEA and the Secret Service.
Who knows? Maybe, you were kidnapped, tied up, taken away and held for ransom.
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I'm surprised there aren't more incidents where suicidal pilots crash planes, both small and large. There are a lot of unhappy people out there. And this is a way to end it without doubt. Doing something that you are deeply connected to.
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I think it is the rare suicidal person who desires to kill someone else, much less a dozen coworkers and 140 strangers.
This is not suicide; it is mass murder. I think the psychological dynamics are drastically different than the run of the mill suicidal person.
This is not suicide; it is mass murder. I think the psychological dynamics are drastically different than the run of the mill suicidal person.
Who knows? Maybe, you were kidnapped, tied up, taken away and held for ransom.
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It's clearly rare. I remain surprised that more who are ready to leave don't want to take somebody they hate with them. Obviously it happens. But I am surprised it's not more common, and more often directed to public figures. Most of them are deeply hated by a lot of people, sometimes by people who are simply psychotic rather than deeply offended by, say, Obamacare.howard wrote:I think it is the rare suicidal person who desires to kill someone else, much less a dozen coworkers and 140 strangers.
I'm no expert, but it does seem to be at least a very different form of suicide.This is not suicide; it is mass murder. I think the psychological dynamics are drastically different than the run of the mill suicidal person.
I wonder if the pilot in the recent case was focused on dying while flying his plane, and completely indifferent to the people in the passenger cabin. I imagine a professional pilot could find planes very compelling. If that's the way you really want to die, I don't know how you can do it without killing a plane full of passengers. It's hard to steal a big jet.
As with so many things in life, perhaps we'll never know.
I'm glad there won't be many cases of pilots left solo in cockpits in the future. It's amazing to me that it will take this case for airlines (I presume) to change their protocols.
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Debris found?
The man who found the piece of wreckage that may be part of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane says he came across it on a beach while he was looking for a stone to use to mash his chilli pepper, writes Rory Mulholland in Paris.
“I had no idea that by looking for a pestle to mash my pepper that I would become famous,” said Johnny Bègue, who was the first to spot the plane fragment on a beach in the French island of Réunion in the Indian Ocean.
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"I immediately e-mailed my brother!"
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
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Hope he washed his hands first.
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and, after.rass wrote:Hope he washed his hands first.
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Also, Reunion? Seriously? Pretty clear we have movie making terrorists on our hands. Tonight a love note will wash up on Closure Beach.
he’s a fixbking cyborg or some shit. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
holy fuckbAllZ, what a ducking nightmare. Holy shot. Just, fuck. The
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Is this some kind of long read?
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Looks like a good one but yea, that's a doozy.
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Given that I had to check myself from bumping this thread yesterday, I enjoyed this remark.
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Look, I can't check every thread as I was driving around western PA over the last two days while dealing with the horrors of the Catholic church and the abuse its priests inflicted on my clients - so if someone linked that article in a different thread and did NOT bump this one to do it, well, I am VERY disappointed in whoever that was...
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I'll take a couple of demerits, too, because the suicide angle was at least mentioned 4 years ago in the press and I was complaining yesterday that it wasn't brought up.
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In my book it ceases to be a suicide when you take hundreds of people with you. Now youre just a murderer and theres a special circle of hell for that guy. Strangest thing is that its one of 3 or 4 similar mentioned. Just eat a bullet assholes.
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Way to disrespect the media. Watch out, one of them may punch you right in the mouth for being an asshole.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:57 am I'll take a couple of demerits, too, because the suicide angle was at least mentioned 4 years ago in the press and I was complaining yesterday that it wasn't brought up.
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Got a chuckle out of me.duff wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 amWay to disrespect the media. Watch out, one of them may punch you right in the mouth for being an asshole.Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:57 am I'll take a couple of demerits, too, because the suicide angle was at least mentioned 4 years ago in the press and I was complaining yesterday that it wasn't brought up.
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So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
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Yeah, I think about that when I fly from time to time. Although all things considered not the worst way to die.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
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Yeah, like, good on the murderer for doing it as humanely as possible? It’s weird for sure.brian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:38 amYeah, I think about that when I fly from time to time. Although all things considered not the worst way to die.tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
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It seems like someone should do something about that. Why the fuck would they ever need to depressurize the cabin? In case of a toxic chemical release or something?tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Generally speaking, when you completely remove the ability for humans to override automated systems bad/unexpected things can happen. There are systems in place to prevent this stuff starting with the pilots not supposed to leave the cabin except to use the restroom or an emergency, etc. This pilot -- if he did do this as it certainly seems -- carefully thought through how to get around all of the systems that should prevent something like this.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:43 amIt seems like someone should do something about that. Why the fuck would they ever need to depressurize the cabin? In case of a toxic chemical release or something?tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
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Sure, and of course there really isn't a way to protect passengers from a murderous-suicidal pilot.brian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:46 amGenerally speaking, when you completely remove the ability for humans to override automated systems bad/unexpected things can happen. There are systems in place to prevent this stuff starting with the pilots not supposed to leave the cabin except to use the restroom or an emergency, etc. This pilot -- if he did do this as it certainly seems -- carefully thought through how to get around all of the systems that should prevent something like this.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:43 amIt seems like someone should do something about that. Why the fuck would they ever need to depressurize the cabin? In case of a toxic chemical release or something?tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Right, like TB said in a weird way it was nice how he spared the passengers the horror of the pilot just flying the plane into the water or a mountain at full speed.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:49 amSure, and of course there really isn't a way to protect passengers from a murderous-suicidal pilot.brian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:46 amGenerally speaking, when you completely remove the ability for humans to override automated systems bad/unexpected things can happen. There are systems in place to prevent this stuff starting with the pilots not supposed to leave the cabin except to use the restroom or an emergency, etc. This pilot -- if he did do this as it certainly seems -- carefully thought through how to get around all of the systems that should prevent something like this.Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:43 amIt seems like someone should do something about that. Why the fuck would they ever need to depressurize the cabin? In case of a toxic chemical release or something?tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:36 am So... I straight up didn’t know that a pilot could effectively depressurize the cabin and murder everyone on board (prior to slamming the plane into the ground and murdering everyone on board) ...
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Id say more like avoiding a 6 hour fight to get into the cabin.