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mister d wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:24 pm We know the virus is far more deadly for people with lung conditions and we also know chronic smokers have the strongest lungs so that makes sense TT.
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sancarlos wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 1:14 am
mister d wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:24 pm We know the virus is far more deadly for people with lung conditions and we also know chronic smokers have the strongest lungs so that makes sense TT.
Much like the Cliff Clavin Buffalo Theory!
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mister d wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:24 pm We know the virus is far more deadly for people with lung conditions and we also know chronic smokers have the strongest lungs so that makes sense TT.
I don't have access to the whole article, but it really could be that NOT having as healthy lung tissue means that the virus has less places to live so it can't set in as badly. Double leg amputees don't tear their ACL, you know.
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Second show that I was working on has now gone on hiatus. This one seems fairly permanent, whereas the other one will probably be back in a month or so.

Grrrr....
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Pruitt wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 10:47 am Second show that I was working on has now gone on hiatus. This one seems fairly permanent, whereas the other one will probably be back in a month or so.

Grrrr....
That sounds frustrating. Luckily the Canadian government is paying you all not to work, right?
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mister d wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:24 pm We know the virus is far more deadly for people with lung conditions and we also know chronic smokers have the strongest lungs so that makes sense TT.
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A_B wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 7:32 am
mister d wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:24 pm We know the virus is far more deadly for people with lung conditions and we also know chronic smokers have the strongest lungs so that makes sense TT.
I don't have access to the whole article, but it really could be that NOT having as healthy lung tissue means that the virus has less places to live so it can't set in as badly. Double leg amputees don't tear their ACL, you know.
You make an excellent point. I'm going to hack of my daughter's legs to prevent an ACL tear in the future. TWILTS!
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 10:55 am
Pruitt wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 10:47 am Second show that I was working on has now gone on hiatus. This one seems fairly permanent, whereas the other one will probably be back in a month or so.

Grrrr....
That sounds frustrating. Luckily the Canadian government is paying you all not to work, right?
Well, they are offering some money - I qualify for a second monthly payment of $2,000 as a self-employed person who has lost work due to the situation. My daughter lost her summer internship, so like many students, she'll get $1,200 a month from May-August. Son is getting $2,000 a month because his job at the brewpub disappeared.

And my wife is working. So the wolf is clearly not at the door. Just frustrating... But the animation business will rebound.

Many moves designed to alleviate fears and financial catastrophe. Taxes will go up when the crisis ends, but the government is doing the right thing. They have pushed the banks into allowing mortgage payment deferrals, topped up the old age pensions with a one time addition of $300...
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EdRomero wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:17 am We were zooming with our 5th graders trying to figure out cool year-end stuff to do for them and asked if there were any questions. A student asked when she could get back into the school to get her stuff. It was a reminder of how sudden this was for everyone, especially kids who who don't pay attention to the news.
The school across the street from me this morning, put stuff out on tables with one worker presiding over it. I walked over and took a quick look. It's mostly shoes but it's all labeled by teacher and home room, so parents are popping in to grab their stuff.

So I guess the school year is over.

That said, i can't imagine what's happening in college dorms? How are students going to get all their stuff back? I've heard stories of students not being able to go back and get their cars.
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In a zoom call yesterday about our current project, our supervisor told us that our client's directive was "to act as if everyone on the staff was positive for COVID-19".

Sure, then cancel the fucking event. I won't be there, but it bothers me to be involved with making people travel, including staying in a hotel and some even get to fly.
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degenerasian wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:16 pm
EdRomero wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:17 am We were zooming with our 5th graders trying to figure out cool year-end stuff to do for them and asked if there were any questions. A student asked when she could get back into the school to get her stuff. It was a reminder of how sudden this was for everyone, especially kids who who don't pay attention to the news.
The school across the street from me this morning, put stuff out on tables with one worker presiding over it. I walked over and took a quick look. It's mostly shoes but it's all labeled by teacher and home room, so parents are popping in to grab their stuff.

So I guess the school year is over.

That said, i can't imagine what's happening in college dorms? How are students going to get all their stuff back? I've heard stories of students not being able to go back and get their cars.
I know for my kids, the schools have you make contact and schedule a time. I don't actually think it's all that complicate, at least not from what I'm seeing/hearing.
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Nonlinear FC wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 3:46 pm
degenerasian wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 4:16 pm
EdRomero wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 8:17 am We were zooming with our 5th graders trying to figure out cool year-end stuff to do for them and asked if there were any questions. A student asked when she could get back into the school to get her stuff. It was a reminder of how sudden this was for everyone, especially kids who who don't pay attention to the news.
The school across the street from me this morning, put stuff out on tables with one worker presiding over it. I walked over and took a quick look. It's mostly shoes but it's all labeled by teacher and home room, so parents are popping in to grab their stuff.

So I guess the school year is over.

That said, i can't imagine what's happening in college dorms? How are students going to get all their stuff back? I've heard stories of students not being able to go back and get their cars.
I know for my kids, the schools have you make contact and schedule a time. I don't actually think it's all that complicate, at least not from what I'm seeing/hearing.
Colleges are generally pretty good at those types of logistics, but I am glad we got it out of the way when we did.
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This is what is happening in around my area. Unfortunately, the fact that Universities are already planning this for fall should tell us a lot about what we should expect, And it is not a return to normal. We'll be doing this for a long time.

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My company pushed back the mandatory work from home through Labor Day. Surprised they were that aggressive in the push back date, as our Chief HR Officer is anti-remote working. On the plus side, our CEO announced that our decreased expenses in facilities and travel balance out the decreased revenue. We charge clients based on their total number of employees, and seeing how almost our entire client list is medium and small businesses, I imagine we are going to see a lot more clients go under and continue to layoff employees.
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We haven't gotten anything official yet, but my boss last week said he'd be surprised if we were back in the office before October (that's when the Amazon workers in South Lake Union are scheduled to return).

Given our current seating arrangement (42 people packed into a small area in cubes), there's no way we can return and do any kind of social distancing. I keep hearing rumors about doing 'rotations' of people being in the building.

All of which means I'm now looking at getting a better office chair for home.
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The Sybian wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:57 pm My company pushed back the mandatory work from home through Labor Day. Surprised they were that aggressive in the push back date, as our Chief HR Officer is anti-remote working. On the plus side, our CEO announced that our decreased expenses in facilities and travel balance out the decreased revenue. We charge clients based on their total number of employees, and seeing how almost our entire client list is medium and small businesses, I imagine we are going to see a lot more clients go under and continue to layoff employees.
I would be interesting to know if your anti-remote working HR officer has changed his/her mind over the last couple of months. Employers are discovering what they should have known for years already, that employees working from home is more advantageous for the employer. They just could never get around that trust factor, are people really working when they're at home? Newsflash, they're not really working at the office either. A lazy worker is a lazy worker no matter where you put them. But obviously with people working from home the last 2 months, production hasn't gone down.

For starters, by me sitting in office, it's costing the company $50 per square foot or rent. Also, I lose 1 to 2 hours commuting. That's wasted energy.
Have people work effectively at home and use the money saved on social club events and Corporate Getaways.

Our HR department called each employee yesterday to ask how we should go back and I answered, we shouldn't. At most, it should be a mix, 50/50.
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DaveInSeattle wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:04 pm We haven't gotten anything official yet, but my boss last week said he'd be surprised if we were back in the office before October (that's when the Amazon workers in South Lake Union are scheduled to return).

Given our current seating arrangement (42 people packed into a small area in cubes), there's no way we can return and do any kind of social distancing. I keep hearing rumors about doing 'rotations' of people being in the building.

All of which means I'm now looking at getting a better office chair for home.
Get the company to expense it. I did. Ergonomics is all the rage now.
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degenerasian wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:10 pm
The Sybian wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:57 pm My company pushed back the mandatory work from home through Labor Day. Surprised they were that aggressive in the push back date, as our Chief HR Officer is anti-remote working. On the plus side, our CEO announced that our decreased expenses in facilities and travel balance out the decreased revenue. We charge clients based on their total number of employees, and seeing how almost our entire client list is medium and small businesses, I imagine we are going to see a lot more clients go under and continue to layoff employees.
I would be interesting to know if your anti-remote working HR officer has changed his/her mind over the last couple of months. Employers are discovering what they should have known for years already, that employees working from home is more advantageous for the employer. They just could never get around that trust factor, are people really working when they're at home? Newsflash, they're not really working at the office either. A lazy worker is a lazy worker no matter where you put them. But obviously with people working from home the last 2 months, production hasn't gone down.

For starters, by me sitting in office, it's costing the company $50 per square foot or rent. Also, I lose 1 to 2 hours commuting. That's wasted energy.
Have people work effectively at home and use the money saved on social club events and Corporate Getaways.

Our HR department called each employee yesterday to ask how we should go back and I answered, we shouldn't. At most, it should be a mix, 50/50.
It's interesting, because our CEO is very much in favor of working from home and having a fluid work/life existence. He always says that if we have kids in a school play during work hours, he wants us to go without feeling guilt, but he expects us to answer client calls at night or weekends. When I started 6 years ago, there was a move towards having more employees work remotely. I forgot about it, but my office was running low on space, and they asked me and another employee to share a desk and each work part time remotely. We did, and she came back to the office maybe once or twice a year. The office next to ours became available, so we doubled our space, but I stopped going in at that point.

The new CHRO came in 2 years ago, and changed positions to require them in office. She believes in collaboration within and between teams, and while I think she is 100% based on the nature of our work, I've gone into the office twice in the last year. As an HR consulting firm, we encourage our clients to shift to remote working, and help them make that transition. The CHRO surprised me at the beginning of the COVID pandemic by saying we were not shifting to remote work, as she believed it hurt collaboration. She encouraged people to continue reporting to their offices, but said if we didn't feel safe we could work from home. Then they quickly shut down all offices except to the 3% of employees whose jobs are deemed necessary to work in an office. It'll be interesting to see what happens once schools reopen and people go back to offices. If productivity isn't hurt, I have a feeling they will close some offices and move to more remote work.
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Having one of my down days. College being fucked up for the fall on top of the end of senior year being fucked up is such shit.
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Prob will skip drinking myself into a blinding vomit this time though.
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tennbengal wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:02 pm Prob will skip drinking myself into a blinding vomit this time though.
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tennbengal wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 2:57 pm Having one of my down days. College being fucked up for the fall on top of the end of senior year being fucked up is such shit.
I'm sorry, TB.
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tennbengal wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:02 pm Prob will skip drinking myself into a blinding vomit this time though.
Maybe just ease into it this time?
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So I am going back into the office starting on Monday. Not real stoked about it. Told my boss I was going to put a tape border around my cubicle and I wasn't going to go to any meetings in conference rooms. For some reason they believe that I need to be there for the company. I guess these extra long hours while working from home were vacation.

They say they are following CDC guidelines, but I don't have faith that they are. As with management other places, they talk a good game about being concerned for their employees when all they really are concerned about is the bottom line.
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duff wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:13 pmTold my boss I was going to put a tape border around my cubicle.
As God is my witness ...
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 pm
duff wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:13 pmTold my boss I was going to put a tape border around my cubicle.
As God is my witness ...
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They are talking about reopening day care centers in Massachusetts in June at very low capacities to make social distancing possible (which sounds impossible with kids), but the entire industry is based on getting good enrollment -- fewer kids, fewer jobs. I'm just having a tough time envisioning what the future will be like and realizing things may never get back to normal, so I may have to get out of my own way (U2!) and figure out a new way to make some money.
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I expect Texas to be back completely open and maskless by Monday
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My corner of Alabama is basically acting like it’s back to normal. You have about half the people beings extra cautious and the other half pretending that everything is fine. I have a bad feeling that it’s going to be an absolute mess in about three weeks.
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Sorry guys - what a bunch of bad situations.
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Square Rob wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:45 amI have a bad feeling that it’s going to be an absolute mess in about three weeks.
Except for nursing homes and meatpacking plants and prisons, is any place a complete mess right now? In some places that have opened up, daily case numbers are increasing. But in others, they are decreasing. Either way, hasn't it been several weeks since we've seen the protests and the beach reopenings and what have you? It seems to me that if those things were as disastrous as we were told, we'd see pretty compelling evidence.

(Obviously what is happening in nursing homes and other facilities is important. But I don't think it is particularly relevant to the issue of what will happen if restaurants or nail salons reopen.)
And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death.
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Hope you’re right Steve. I’d love to be one of those happy, maskless dumbasses on that boardwalk (in late August when we usually get a house) but if this test the waters and see what happens in lieu of testing for the virus plan doesn’t work we personally are going to be staying inside at home for a long time.

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Did you see the overhead shots of most of those protests? Attendance of a HS basketball game and half of them were masked up while yelling we don’t need restrictions.
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Hasn't Florida had an uptick after opening up beaches and other things the past two weeks? Don't have the link, but read an article (The Guardian maybe) that speaks about an increase in positive tests and deaths.
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Problem with “uptick” is you should see an increase in numbers if more people are getting tested - more tests should find more cases. I am more partial to hospitalizations and ICU percentages filled as the market for problems.
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tennbengal wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 1:58 pm Problem with “uptick” is you should see an increase in numbers if more people are getting tested - more tests should find more cases. I am more partial to hospitalizations and ICU percentages filled as the market for problems.
I'm also interested in real numbers of COVID-19 deaths.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 3:24 pm
tennbengal wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 1:58 pm Problem with “uptick” is you should see an increase in numbers if more people are getting tested - more tests should find more cases. I am more partial to hospitalizations and ICU percentages filled as the market for problems.
I'm also interested in real numbers of COVID-19 deaths.
I've been pretty obsessively following statistics on COVID-19 deaths. Right now the total reported deaths in the US is just shy of 90K. Based on what I've read, the "real number" is likely 10-25% higher. So it's probably actually somewhere between 100-115K deaths. That being said, Steve is right that it's not at all an even distribution nationally. The Eastern Seaboard has gotten absolutely hammered, and it's been pretty bad in Michigan, Illinois and Louisiana. But the rest of the country has comparatively been doing a lot better. Hopefully that doesn't change as a result of premature reopening, but I don't think it's unreasonable to consider having fewer restrictions in areas that aren't as hard hit.
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Joe K wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 pm
DSafetyGuy wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 3:24 pm
tennbengal wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 1:58 pm Problem with “uptick” is you should see an increase in numbers if more people are getting tested - more tests should find more cases. I am more partial to hospitalizations and ICU percentages filled as the market for problems.
I'm also interested in real numbers of COVID-19 deaths.
I've been pretty obsessively following statistics on COVID-19 deaths. Right now the total reported deaths in the US is just shy of 90K. Based on what I've read, the "real number" is likely 10-25% higher. So it's probably actually somewhere between 100-115K deaths. That being said, Steve is right that it's not at all an even distribution nationally. The Eastern Seaboard has gotten absolutely hammered, and it's been pretty bad in Michigan, Illinois and Louisiana. But the rest of the country has comparatively been doing a lot better. Hopefully that doesn't change as a result of premature reopening, but I don't think it's unreasonable to consider having fewer restrictions in areas that aren't as hard hit.


The good news is it sounds like my mom and sister are going to press their luck. My aunt and uncle invited them to their new place in Missouri, so it sounds like they're heading out in a couple weeks.

This sister works in a cancer treatment facility affiliated with the Cleveland Clinic.
“All I'm sayin' is, he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall.”
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