Election Week 2020

[psunate77]

This is about to get ugly.

the 'trump family' also demanded that they stop counting votes. how'd that go?

I get that, but a lot of these states like PA have a Republican controlled senate where this may become an issue. I think Georgia is also Republican controlled.

One positive is they need the Gov signature in this so won’t fly in PA, but Georgia may be an issue since it’s Republican controlled.

[tennbengal]

[Steve of phpBB]

Once again, Hold Onto Your Butts.

[tennbengal]

Once again, Hold Onto Your Butts.

Biden needs a 60/40 split of those apparently - and has been 70+ on these mailed votes so far.

[L-Jam3]

Once again, Hold Onto Your Butts.

Biden needs a 60/40 split of those apparently - and has been 70+ on these mailed votes so far.

Or hold his lead in Nevada and Arizona, with the vast majority of the mail-ins getting counted from Vegas and Phoenix.

[tennbengal]

Once again, Hold Onto Your Butts.

Biden needs a 60/40 split of those apparently - and has been 70+ on these mailed votes so far.

Or hold his lead in Nevada and Arizona, with the vast majority of the mail-ins getting counted from Vegas and Phoenix.

I want to not need Arizona.

[Steve of phpBB]

Still looking on track ...

[Steve of phpBB]

I think/hope/pray that as soon as the lines intersect, the networks will call the state and the whole race.

[The Sybian]

This is about to get ugly.

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

[brian]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

The problem with this scenario is that the EC vote is in the middle of December and would come after 30 days of coverage about President-Elect Biden and his incoming Cabinet, etc. There's no way it would be treated as anything other than a coup d'etat.

[degenerasian]

If Biden wins this, the new American Politics discussion thread should be titled "American Politics Thread: Biden Time Until 2022"

[testuser2]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

I don't think it is possible in many states to defy the popular vote results. From https://www.nass.org/node/131 in Nevada you have to follow the popular vote. If you fail to do so you get replaced until someone does it.

I agree to serve as a presidential elector and to vote only for the nominees for President and Vice President of the party or the independent candidates who received the highest number of votes in this State at the general election.

the Secretary of State shall accept both ballots; (b) Does not present both ballots, presents an unmarked ballot or presents a ballot marked with a vote that does not conform with the pledge: (1) The Secretary of State shall refuse to accept either ballot of the presidential elector; and (2) The Secretary of State shall deem the presidential elector’s position vacant. The vacancy must be filled pursuant to state law.

[The Sybian]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

I don't think it is possible in many states to defy the popular vote results. From https://www.nass.org/node/131 in Nevada you have to follow the popular vote. If you fail to do so you get replaced until someone does it.

I agree to serve as a presidential elector and to vote only for the nominees for President and Vice President of the party or the independent candidates who received the highest number of votes in this State at the general election.

the Secretary of State shall accept both ballots; (b) Does not present both ballots, presents an unmarked ballot or presents a ballot marked with a vote that does not conform with the pledge: (1) The Secretary of State shall refuse to accept either ballot of the presidential elector; and (2) The Secretary of State shall deem the presidential elector’s position vacant. The vacancy must be filled pursuant to state law.

Well that makes me feel much better, thanks. I always thought the purpose of electors was that the Founding Fathers didn't trust the people, and wanted to add a fail safe in case the people elected a wildly unqualified conman, possibly one whose fame hinged on being a reality TV star.

[brian]

[brian]

If PA doesn't put Biden over the top first, NV should be known by tomorrow morning.

[Gunpowder]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

The problem with this scenario is that the EC vote is in the middle of December and would come after 30 days of coverage about President-Elect Biden and his incoming Cabinet, etc. There's no way it would be treated as anything other than a coup d'etat.

I mean I bet I know 50 million or so people that wouldn't treat it that way

[The Sybian]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

The problem with this scenario is that the EC vote is in the middle of December and would come after 30 days of coverage about President-Elect Biden and his incoming Cabinet, etc. There's no way it would be treated as anything other than a coup d'etat.

I mean I bet I know 50 million or so people that wouldn't treat it that way

And they have most of the guns. And police. And maybe military?

[psunate77]

I hope this doesn’t mean DT is going to do something bad vs Citizens.

[brian]

His last action was to prepare legislation to rename the names of bases that have Confederate generals, so I doubt it. He was on the way out even if Trump won. This is a nothingburger.

[degenerasian]

The Georgia run chase is now 9,525 with 43,000 left.

[Steve of phpBB]

The Georgia run chase is now 9,525 with 43,000 left.

I’ve seen it as 37,000 left. If so, Biden would need a run rate of 63%.

[sancarlos]

So, the wife and I went out of town yesterday, and I tried my best to ignore everything and relax. Worked to a point...

This is funny.

[psunate77]

[tennbengal]

Biden gonna be declared president-elect before we reach midnight I would guess based on PA.

Which is probably why Trump is schedule to bleat at 6:30 - to declare victory ahead of that...

[tennbengal]

[tennbengal]

[tennbengal]

[Johnnie]

[Johnnie]

[sancarlos]

[degenerasian]

He asked people to mail their ballots in.

He's losing, now they're terrible.

[Johnnie]

[Johnnie]

[HaulCitgo]

Those statements are a bit scary. You can't be president and allege that an election was rigged. Even if you believe that you have to sue and shut up. Wars have been fought over this stuff.

[tennbengal]

[A_B]

The Georgia run chase is now 9,525 with 43,000 left.

I’ve seen it as 37,000 left. If so, Biden would need a run rate of 63%.

3,700 vote difference.

[Steve of phpBB]

Holy fuck, Biden is within 4000 votes in Georgia.

We've now hit the "the Cubs just took the lead after the rain delay" stage of the proceedings. Now to wait nervously to see if they hold on.

[tennbengal]

[Nonlinear FC]

This was my unspoken fear for months. A state can vote 70% for Biden, and the Electors can still vote for Trump. Really can't do anything about that. Again, this is why 270 isn't enough. Need a couple states as cushion in case a state goes rogue. It seems insane, but if Trump is actually able to convince people Biden somehow stole the election, maybe someone will think they are a true Patriot and vote Trump even though their state voted Biden.

The problem with this scenario is that the EC vote is in the middle of December and would come after 30 days of coverage about President-Elect Biden and his incoming Cabinet, etc. There's no way it would be treated as anything other than a coup d'etat.

I mean I bet I know 50 million or so people that wouldn't treat it that way

And they have most of the guns. And police. And maybe military?

broken record time: The military generals spoke loudly during the protests that they would not be pawns in any of Trump's unlawful bullshit.

[Steve of phpBB]

There's 18,900 votes left to count. Biden going 60-40 will do it. If he continues to go 70-30 or better he'll pull ahead by 4000.

(Of course then you have to worry about provisional ballots and late-arriving military ballots, etc.)