L-Jam3 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:25 am
Since perfect voting is now a thing, are we going to start seeing those more regularly? Like is Trout whenever he gets in going to be a perfect vote? Or Pujols?
i believe so. Who would be on this list of possible future unanimous selections?
Cabrera
Ichiro
Pujols
Trout
Kershaw
Cabrera has legal issues with alcohol and a messy divorce, as well as his decline (and he's got four(?) years left to further be mediocre). Ichiro began his career overseas. Pujols went in the tank with age and there were mumbles about his age when he was young.
Don't put it past one guy to not vote for anyone for a dumb reason, especially because "getting in the first-time on the ballot" is treated like a special thing, let alone "unanimous".
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
A slightly above-average player whose career was artificially enhanced by the city he played in, and also Larry Walker ha ha ha ha ha ha subscribe to my podcast
This fucking guy is still going to go first ballot despite borderline stats because he was such a nice guy and 20 years from now people will question what the fuck happened with the sportswriters of the time.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
sancarlos wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:54 pm
I guess it makes me a hypocrite that I’d vote for Bonds and Manny, but not Schilling or Clemens, just out of spite.
This statement probably has 35% less spite than the ballot of the average voter aged 52 and up.
“The running, the jumping... a celebration of life.”
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:24 pmAbsolute Yes: Bonds, Clemens,
Personal Yes: Andruw, Manny, Rolen, Sheffield
Personal No: Kent, Sosa, Vizquel
Need Some More Time to Think: Abreu, Helton, Pettitte, Wagner
No and Will Get Too Much Relative Support: Buerhle, Zito
No and Won't Get Enough Relative Support: Hudson, Hunter
Also Played Baseball: Burnett, Cuddyer, Haren, Hawkins, Aramis, Swisher, Victorino
Personally Devastating Ballot Omission: Sizemore
Fuck: Curt Schilling
Delaware, can you give me a comparison of Buerhle vs. Pettitttte? I find them very similar, and would probably put them both just short. Curious of your thoughts.
My avatar corresponds on my place in the Swamp posting list with the all-time Home Run list. Number 45 is Paul Konerko with 439.
Did I never response here? I thought I did. It was along the lines of "Buehrle's career feels like Pettitte's career minus the top peaks". I think I had numbers too.
Bigger deal: Dick Allen died today and was probably the best player not in the HoF without "cause". I'm sure the vet committee will put him in now that he isn't around to enjoy it. Fucking shit.
Johnnie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:13 pmOh shit, you just reminded me about toilet paper.
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:11 pm
Did I never response here? I thought I did. It was along the lines of "Buehrle's career feels like Pettitte's career minus the top peaks". I think I had numbers too.
Bigger deal: Dick Allen died today and was probably the best player not in the HoF without "cause". I'm sure the vet committee will put him in now that he isn't around to enjoy it. Fucking shit.
Dick Allen (or, Richie Allen, as I first knew of him) was really a stud player. I think the reason that he isn't in the Hall is that he was kind of a weird guy, and more likely, he was a black man who didn't give a shit about playing the nice PR game for the white folks.
mister d wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:11 pm
Did I never response here? I thought I did. It was along the lines of "Buehrle's career feels like Pettitte's career minus the top peaks". I think I had numbers too.
Bigger deal: Dick Allen died today and was probably the best player not in the HoF without "cause". I'm sure the vet committee will put him in now that he isn't around to enjoy it. Fucking shit.
Dick Allen (or, Richie Allen, as I first knew of him) was really a stud player. I think the reason that he isn't in the Hall is that he was kind of a weird guy, and more likely, he was a black man who didn't give a shit about playing the nice PR game for the white folks.
NBC national news had one of those “In Remembrance” things about celebrities who died in 2020 and they listed every MLB HoFer who died including Phil Niekro from a few days ago but didn’t include Al Kaline. That shit shouldn’t make me mad but it does.
brian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:31 pm
NBC national news had one of those “In Remembrance” things about celebrities who died in 2020 and they listed every MLB HoFer who died including Phil Niekro from a few days ago but didn’t include Al Kaline. That shit shouldn’t make me mad but it does.
Why shouldn’t it make you mad? The secondary story after celebrity deaths are the # of MLB HOFers who passed away. Kaline was one of them.
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:36 pm
Leaving Kaline out is pretty egregious. I’m obviously a guy who cares about history but he’s and all timer.
If they only did like say Bob Gibson and Seaver or something I’d say, “eh, can’t include everyone” but when you list literally every single one except Kaline (they did them 3 at a time) it pisses me off.
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:40 pm
I was abreu and petite and maybe Wagner. I could be convinced on hudson fairly easily. Buerhle a bit more convincing.
Now that I think about it hudson and beujele probably about same.
Hold on, I'm trying to see if Jack London ever gets this fire built or not.
A_B wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:36 pm
Leaving Kaline out is pretty egregious. I’m obviously a guy who cares about history but he’s and all timer.
If they only did like say Bob Gibson and Seaver or something I’d say, “eh, can’t include everyone” but when you list literally every single one except Kaline (they did them 3 at a time) it pisses me off.
It should.
Hold on, I'm trying to see if Jack London ever gets this fire built or not.
Right. I was pointing out the inconsistency in Rosecrans’ approach to his ballot.
I mean, regardless of our positions on PED users who were caught (or not), perjuring themselves about PED usage on the floor of the United States House of Representatives etc., you can question the approach of a writer who goes out of his way to separate Manny Ramirez from his PED usage and multiple suspensions, yet scrutinize Sosa’s 609 HRs because he hit too many of them in too short of a timespan. That’s...interesting.
For the record: let ‘em all in, but tell the whole story.