The WH Transition Thread --- all things Trump to Biden until Inauguration

psunate77 · Post by **psunate77** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:46 pm

and Alito and Thomas are assholes..

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:05 pm

They didn't vote for it, it was 9-0 against hearing the BS.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html

Separately, justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas said they would have allowed the case to be filed, but would grant no other relief.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:15 pm

psunate77 · Post by **psunate77** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:29 pm

Texas GOP Response..

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:29 pm

Siri show me ‘countries with no extradition treaty.’

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:31 pm

tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:05 pm They didn't vote for it, it was 9-0 against hearing the BS.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html

Separately, justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas said they would have allowed the case to be filed, but would grant no other relief.

Apparently they believe the Court is required to take original jurisdiction cases?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm

Yeah that’s clearly not about this case, but rather whatever arcane position they’ve staked out in other cases. I’ll keep that in mind for when I launch my state vs state original jurisdiction practice.

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:45 pm

So we WON'T get to see Ted Cruz in front of the Supreme Court arguing to keep the guy who called his wife ugly in office?

I'm disappointed.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:59 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:31 pm
tennbengal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:05 pm They didn't vote for it, it was 9-0 against hearing the BS.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics ... index.html

Separately, justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas said they would have allowed the case to be filed, but would grant no other relief.

Apparently they believe the Court is required to take original jurisdiction cases?

That does seem to be the windmill they are tilting at with that sleight of hand, yes.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:22 pm

Is having that statement coming from Alito and Thomas intentional? Would Roberts says, "to show how crazy this suit was we'll have these two crazy political hacks write the statement."

Also, when I quickly looked at the Texas GOP logo I thought the Montreal Expos had made a statement.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:33 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm Yeah that’s clearly not about this case, but rather whatever arcane position they’ve staked out in other cases. I’ll keep that in mind for when I launch my state vs state original jurisdiction practice.

Don’t forget all those cases affecting Ambassadors.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm

Long story short, it is not unusual for justices to concur in the result while staking out a position that goes against the majority but would lead to the same result. Basically, they are saying “I agree with the result reached by he majority but would have decided the case on the basis of reason X rather than reason Y.” Because X and Y lead to the same result, it doesn’t matter for the present case, BUT appellate judges are always thinking about future cases. This was a message sent to future litigants in state vs. state cases, and has nothing to do with the specifics of this lawsuit. (Most state vs. state cases have nothing to do with election law—they are fights over stuff like water rights).

The fact that they said they would have thrown the case out for reason Y, which unlike reason X was related to the merits of the lawsuit, IS significant, especially considering that this was coming from Alito and Thomas.

Just spitballing here, but I’m guessing that Roberts spent some time trying to find an issue where there was complete unanimity so as to avoid this confusion. But other justices may have been just as willing to hold out on reason X, so this was the best way to proceed.

BSF21 · Post by **BSF21** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:57 pm

I mean I understand the rulings but has anyone told SCOTUS that psunate says Trump is definitely the big winner? Just wondering.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:18 pm

The Twitterverse is saying Pelosi should refuse to seat the 126 representatives next year because of the 14th amendment.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:15 pm

Hahahahahaha. Democrats doing something.

Knee slapper.

She furrowed her brow, wagged her finger, and is going to placate the problem children throwing a tantrum in the super market with an ice cream dinner.

Post by **brian** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am

psunate77 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:46 pm and Alito and Thomas are assholes..

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?

DaveInSeattle · Post by **DaveInSeattle** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:59 am

In case you were wondering how Milo and the other Hitler Youth are taking things over on Parler...

EnochRoot · Post by **EnochRoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:32 am

Trump will use that angst as a cudgel to become warlord over the GOP in an attempt to shield himself from prosecution.

Oh, and there’s the inescapable conclusion that he must be viewed as a national security risk. The dude is a straight up Russian asset.

psunate77 · Post by **psunate77** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:22 pm

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:41 pm

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:44 pm

Forgot where I read it, but Putin was guessing Trump would lose in 2016 and then put doubt in democracy with allegations of election fraud. So now we're just getting a view of what would have happened if Hillary won, except instead of Barr and a much more conservative court rejecting ridiculous allegations, evil Obama appointees would have been doing it. It's worth destroying democracy to destroy the Democrats, I guess.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 pm

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:50 pm

I’m hoping he chooses the latter.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:03 pm

sancarlos wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:50 pm I’m hoping he chooses the latter.

It's "r/DonaldTrump," so the subreddit that exists for him - not actually him. It's made up of a bunch of idiots. Regardless, I agree. Can't wait to see him fuck off.

Post by **brian** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:49 am

The hilarious thing is which country are these wannabe Nazis gonna move to? Hungary? Turkey? Poland? The US is already by far the most right-wing country in the First World, more or less.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:24 am

They'll do the exact same thing liberals did when Bush became president.

Stay in America and fucking like it.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:06 am

I don’t know what thread to raise an eyebrow about this so I will raise the eyebrow here:

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:18 pm

I know I'm harsh on Biden, but I have to admit there isn't anyone more qualified to run the $75B budget of the dept of transportation than "Mayor" Pete Buttigieg.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:24 pm

(Before anyone accuses me of sarcasm, South Bend has 60 vehicles serving 20 routes with not one, but TWO, fucking hub stations.)

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:24 pm

They should've tapped that progressive train engineer.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:25 pm

Or someone with a relevant background or expertise.

Giff · Post by **Giff** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:30 pm

Yeah, I'm not understanding this one.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:31 pm

And his ambassadors better all have advanced degrees in ambassadoring.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:35 pm

Giff wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:30 pm Yeah, I'm not understanding this one.

Let me help: Pete dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden when told.

duff · Post by **duff** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:01 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:35 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:30 pm Yeah, I'm not understanding this one.
Let me help: Pete dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden when told.

So that makes him unfit for a position?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:07 pm

mister d wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:35 pm
Giff wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:30 pm Yeah, I'm not understanding this one.
Let me help: Pete dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden when told.

Doesn't seem like the type of post you hand out as an award for letting you win the nomination. It wields no influence or prestige, and isn't a jumping off point for someone with future ambitions. I just looked at the list of former Transportation Secretaries, and I don't think a single person went on to anything bigger afterwards. Ok, Andrew Card was Transportation Secretary under HW Bush, then Chief of Staff under W. Other than that, 2 wives of prominent Senators and a couple vaguely familiar names who I remember hearing as Sec of Transportation.

I don't think you really need experience in the field of transportation, you just need someone with good management skills and a willingness to hire and listen to experts. I kept hearing he'd get an Ambassadorship to China, which could be considered a plum gig. I'm curious how the Chinese would feel about a married gay man in that role.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:05 pm

What has he done besides be mayor of a 4th rate city and then decide to try to be president? Any time Buttigieg comes up it seems like the onus is on proving the negative versus anyone defending him saying what makes him qualified for _______.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:25 pm

Pete would've been excellent at some sort of gig where he's being a diplomat and engaging with foreign nations. He was a prior Intel officer in the Navy. He has the temperament, presence, and wit. Plus he speaks 7 languages.

I'm literally more qualified to be Transportation Secretary. And I'm not even that qualified. Sure he's more qualified than McConnell's wife, but also, so am I.

This is his reward for dropping and endorsing when told, as Mr. D said. It's absolutely obvious.

All that being said, if his day 1 vision for America as the Transportation Secretary isn't facilitating "a high speed rail system like that of Europe or Japan," then fuck off. America is long overdue for one.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm

Would have thought Pete would get an ambassador gig that one of the languages he speaks would be handy but the job would be really easy. Like Norway or Italy maybe.

(Then maybe move him to State after a bit, then a Senator or Gov and then bring him back into the Presidential fold.)