The WH Transition Thread --- all things Trump to Biden until Inauguration

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:20 pm

Can Fox use the same defense as before that it's just entertainment?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:28 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:20 pm Can Fox use the same defense as before that it's just entertainment?

Probably not, because if you are directly spreading falsehoods that are damaging to a company, it doesn't matter if you are entertainment or news. There is a parody exception, but you would have to argue that the falsehoods are so clearly a joke that nobody could reasonably believe it was true.

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:35 pm

Well how do you explain this one then? Did Christ file a lawsuit?

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Rex wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:35 pm

Well how do you explain this one then? Did Christ file a lawsuit?

If only Pat would follow his own advice...

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:53 pm

If you told me Pat was dead and this was CGI, I wouldn’t call BS....

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:18 pm

Good lord, when Pat Robertson is the voice of reason, we are so far around the bend.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:04 pm

Damn, I missed the pile on to Nate.

I remember he earned the nickname Puss Nuts from the other guy with issues mentioned upthread.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:08 pm

Question. What would invoking martial law even look like? Like, who would you be sicking the military on? The Senate?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:22 pm

That's a great question. I have no fucking idea. It probably wouldn't look any different than that secret police force shit we saw this summer. Except those weren't military members.

Countries only seem to enact that shit when everything has descended to complete lawlessness and order needs to be restored. Unless hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people are rioting simultaneously then doing so is batshit bananas crazy. And anyone suggesting it needs to be removed from authority immediately.

Thoughts like that from a president should invoke the 25th immediately. Every Democrat should be screaming it and risking political capital in doing so. But it's a Trumper tantrum, and therefore given a pass.

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm

We don't need to be ruffling any feathers at this point. This shit will obviously never happen again.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:34 pm

Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm We don't need to be ruffling any feathers at this point. This shit will obviously never happen again.

It’s like dealing with a toddler. Just ignore their tantrums and they’ll burn themselves out. Media should just ignore him, like giving oxygen to a fire. OTOH, how does the media ignore a sitting President threatening martial law?

Jerloma · Post by **Jerloma** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:55 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:34 pm
Jerloma wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm We don't need to be ruffling any feathers at this point. This shit will obviously never happen again.
It’s like dealing with a toddler. Just ignore their tantrums and they’ll burn themselves out. Media should just ignore him, like giving oxygen to a fire. OTOH, how does the media ignore a sitting President threatening martial law?

Crazy times, man.

P.D.X. · Post by **P.D.X.** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm

The only time I've heard fears of 'martial law' are from right wing nut jobs justifying owning weapons arsenals and bunkers. Guessing they're not getting up in arms currently

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:21 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:18 pm Good lord, when Pat Robertson is the voice of reason, we are so far around the bend.

Ha ha. Exactly.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:25 pm

P.D.X. wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm The only time I've heard fears of 'martial law' are from right wing nut jobs justifying owning weapons arsenals and bunkers. Guessing they're not getting up in arms currently

ThE 2nD aMeNdMeNt PrOtEcTs ThE 1sT. Hurr Durr.

Yup. Those types seem to be silent right now and only pipe up when liberals are in power.

A_B · Post by **A_B** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:37 am

Is Connecticut's Education system is the South Bend of transportation systems?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:11 am

It's relative

Post by **brian** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:20 am

He should have picked baltimaher.

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:00 am

I guess it is not sedition and/or treason if Trump does it. Same has it has been for four years. He operates outside the law.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:57 am

tennbengal wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:00 am I guess it is not sedition and/or treason if Trump does it. Same has it has been for four years. He operates outside the law.

Any other time in our history, this would have been the most shocking story of the century and the largest political scandal in history. With Trump, it would have been shocking if he didn't do this, and this won't raise a single eyebrow, and there will be another scandal tomorrow to knock this out of the news, if it even catches as a story, since it's a slow, ongoing story every just assumed was happening.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:58 am

Our democracy is basically in a prevent defense, hoping to run out the clock until January 20.

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:03 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:58 am Our democracy is basically in a prevent defense, hoping to run out the clock until January 20.

Fantastic analogy. I get the sense that most of the Senate GOP and maybe half of the GOP Reps are exhausted and want this asshole out, but are afraid to speak out and are hoping he gets evicted after Biden's inauguration. If they were believers in the cause, the conspiracy, or wanted Trump around, how could they stay silent?

Rex · Post by **Rex** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:12 pm

I think that describes the last 4 years

tennbengal · Post by **tennbengal** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm

It's literal treason. Again.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:03 pm

Yeah, when Mr. D repeatedly said "maybe this is what takes him down" it was funny, but also extremely frustrating because it just pointed out that:

Trump has completely consumed/subsumed the GOP base. He was never going to be brought down because he's made himself extremely popular and powerful with the durr-hurr crowd. All other GOP elected officials are scared shitless of getting on his bad side. And he has provided amazing cover for many of them to be complete assholes, playing to the emotions of a bunch of toddlers.

There's a special place in Hell for the lot of them. They made the pandemic politic, costing hundreds of thousands of lives. And, now, by staying silent, they've created a massive problem for democracy in our country.

And these are the first assholes in line to talk about loving the country, the flag, our troops, bullshit bullshit bullshit.

Pruitt · Post by **Pruitt** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

The Sybian · Post by **The Sybian** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:18 pm

Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

Sad that I only know that as a Simpson's reference... That was half of my arts, literature and film knowledge in high school.

Nonlinear FC · Post by **Nonlinear FC** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:34 pm

One of the things I love about reading these articles:

He is a miserable human being. And he makes everyone around him miserable.

And this election and the results has kicked everything into an even higher level of miserable-ness.

Good. Fuck him and everyone that chooses to be employed by him.

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:43 pm

The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:18 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
Sad that I only know that as a Simpson's reference... That was half of my arts, literature and film knowledge in high school.

It's also a line in a Dylan song.

mister d · Post by **mister d** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:28 pm

Nonlinear FC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:34 pmHe is a miserable human being. And he makes everyone around him miserable.

Part of what got me through 4+ years. He's just a blob of joyless insecurity who can only experience negative emotions so the especially painful losses for him really perked me up.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:47 pm

What's the angle here? He can't be growing a conscious with less than a month left. Is he just bullshitting?

Post by **brian** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:49 pm

More like just shitting on everything because he isn’t a part of it.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:52 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:47 pm

What's the angle here? He can't be growing a conscious with less than a month left. Is he just bullshitting?

Revenge on Mcconnell for publicly congratulating Biden and Harris?

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:32 pm

Pelosi is on board.

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:36 pm

EdRomero wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:52 pmRevenge on Mcconnell for publicly congratulating Biden and Harris?

Maybe just a cover for the pardons he just issued.

EdRomero · Post by **EdRomero** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm

Yeah war criminals who murdered kids and people convicted of lying for him shouldn't be the most popular pardons, but in MAGAland...

Steve of phpBB · Post by **Steve of phpBB** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:02 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:47 pm

What's the angle here? He can't be growing a conscious with less than a month left. Is he just bullshitting?

He wants the adulation. Plus his name on the checks I’m sure.

sancarlos · Post by **sancarlos** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:33 pm

Johnnie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:47 pm

What's the angle here? He can't be growing a conscious with less than a month left. Is he just bullshitting?

I wonder if the “unnecessary” items he wants to remove have anything to do with it.

Rush2112 · Post by **Rush2112** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 pm

Steve of phpBB wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:43 pm
The Sybian wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:18 pm
Pruitt wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
Sad that I only know that as a Simpson's reference... That was half of my arts, literature and film knowledge in high school.
It's also a line in a Dylan song.

Attributed to Samuel Johnson (according to Boswell.)

Johnnie · Post by **Johnnie** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:35 am

From what I can gauge perusing things online, non politician folks from both sides of the political spectrum are pissed about where money is going to in the bill.

Regular folks seem to be actually reading it and going "Why the fuck do all these countries get our money but Americans are only getting $600?" It's really weird to see such bipartisanship.

I cannot confirm exactly where all the money is going because I'm not going to read it. So, no shit we give money away to other countries because we're America. And we're a shithole country to our own citizens. I'm fairly certain the images I'm seeing of lines in the bill are legit, but it's odd taking that info at face value from people that normally share anti liberal memes.