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A_B wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:55 pm
sancarlos wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:42 pm
brian wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:37 pm Say what you want about Stafford but he would be an enticing piece to build around for a team with a window of 3-5 years. I really hope he gets a chance to win a title somewhere else as long as the Lions get an elite college QB or a potential cornerstone like Watson.
I can see what you're saying, but I have a hard time believing Jacksonville is that place for him. And, given the nasty injuries he's suffered, I kind of doubt he has 4 years left in him.

Fwiw, some of the media have been floating the idea of him coming to the Broncos. That probably isn't an ideal landing spot for Stafford, either.
He's only missed 8 games in the past 10 seasons, and they were all last season. And they didn't play him in a couple because they sucked, right?
He’s insanely tough. I wouldn’t worry about that part. I’m hoping that it’s Houston that wants him anyway.
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if Houston trades Deshaun Watson, they're going to go full rebuild

Pittsburgh/New England would seem to be the most logical AFC destinations if Stafford is moved/leaves Detroit
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If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.
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mister d wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.
Good question though so much in the NFL depends on stuff outside QB control. Brees only has 1 SB, Rodgers too. Rivers was good enough to win some with right surrounding crew. Stafford is still surprisingly young too. 32 or 33 IIRC. Not unreasonable to expect prime performance for another 3-4 years at least. In right situation he could absolutely win a title.
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Saleh to the Jets

Seems like a smart choice. But it's the Jets, so you never know...
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brian wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:18 pm
mister d wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm If Stafford got a career restart 10x, how many of those 10 Staffords win a super bowl? He seems like he was really good with never good enough support.
Good question though so much in the NFL depends on stuff outside QB control. Brees only has 1 SB, Rodgers too. Rivers was good enough to win some with right surrounding crew. Stafford is still surprisingly young too. 32 or 33 IIRC. Not unreasonable to expect prime performance for another 3-4 years at least. In right situation he could absolutely win a title.
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San Carlos a huge Campbell Stan.
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I’m glad someone is excited by the hire.

(I don’t have an issue with it per se, but because it’s the Lions I just automatically assume it’s doomed to fail. At least if it was a “hot assistant” like Bieniemy I could get my hopes up a little.).
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I’ve never heard of him. Just thought it was worth noting.
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brian wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:08 am I’m glad someone is excited by the hire.

(I don’t have an issue with it per se, but because it’s the Lions I just automatically assume it’s doomed to fail. At least if it was a “hot assistant” like Bieniemy I could get my hopes up a little.).
His first act last time as HC was to install the Oklahoma Drill. He seems nice.
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Josh McDaniels to the Eagles rumors are heating up. Looking for a Wentz fixer
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Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.
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I want this so badly, just for the Danny Kelly and Mina Kimes reactions...

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I’m no expert, but it appears to me that what they really need is not a coach but a better pass-blocking offensive line.
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sancarlos wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45 pm I’m no expert, but it appears to me that what they really need is not a coach but a better pass-blocking offensive line.
I'm no expert, but Adam Gase ain't fixin' shit. He is the worst play caller ever, and pretty terrible at every other facet of coaching.
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mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:46 pm Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.
Yep. That's where I'm standing.
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Reaper wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:12 pm
mister d wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:46 pm Eagles fans I know range from "no" to "I might take next year off" on that one.
Yep. That's where I'm standing.
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EdRomero wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:32 pm Josh McDaniels to the Eagles rumors are heating up. Looking for a Wentz fixer
I know Josh is a well-respected play-caller, but I feel like the team could use some new blood at OC. Not sure who they have in-house due to the losses of the notoriously thin staff the Pats typically have, maybe a retread OC (O'Shea, Weiss, etc,) and can a team still block lateral moves of assistants? Like they couldn't talk Bienemy to going from an elite offence to one devoid of skill talent, could they?
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I think if you were trying to make sure your superstar QB was eligible to play in the conference title game, you'd do anything possible to spin the narrative away from concussion as quickly as possible. Not saying the choke-out explanation isn't legit, it might be, but it should be viewed with a lot of skepticism.
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mister d wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:47 am I think if you were trying to make sure your superstar QB was eligible to play in the conference title game, you'd do anything possible to spin the narrative away from concussion as quickly as possible. Not saying the choke-out explanation isn't legit, it might be, but it should be viewed with a lot of skepticism.
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Just imagine how many more kids he'll have after being around the house full-time
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He always irritated me, but this is pretty good...

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This one followed shortly after in my feed:

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Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
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I'm sure hiring Trent Baalke as GM in Jacksonville will work out great. Maybe he's not an egotist any more.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
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DSafetyGuy wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:49 pm Six-year contract for shit like this:
“We’re going to kick you in the teeth, all right?” Campbell told reporters. “And when you punch us back, we’re going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we’re going to get back up and on the way up, we’re going to bite a kneecap off, all right? And then it’s going to take us two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we’re going to take your other kneecap. … Before long, we’re going to be the last one standing.”
I'll be surprised if this lasts over four full seasons.
The Lions have had one HC last more than 4 seasons (Jim Schwartz, 5) since Barry Sanders retired so that's a safe bet regardless.
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What in the intergalactic fuck
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Gunpowder wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:59 pm What in the intergalactic fuck
For what? Haskins? Hue? The thought of Hue Jackson being the OC in Pittsburgh makes me laugh.
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Sabo wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:01 pm
Gunpowder wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:59 pm What in the intergalactic fuck
For what? Haskins? Hue? The thought of Hue Jackson being the OC in Pittsburgh makes me laugh.
Dan Campbell. Haskins is a no-risk flyer, Hue is scary but after the parade of shittiness at the coordinator spots I'm numb to it.
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Anyone reach out to Mike Utley for comment?
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