Super Bowl LV

[degenerasian]

They just showed Mahomes has been pressured, hit or sacked on 32/40 dropbacks tonight. That is utterly insane, it was been one of the most lopsided trench battles we've seen. Its amazing Mahomes has only been sacked twice.

[sancarlos]

Without their two starting tackles, the Chiefs better be getting the ball out of Mahomes' hands quickly.

[degenerasian]

We need a streaker wearing a mask.

[brian]

Besides that one year for Detroit back in the 30s, was there a time a city won two titles and made it to finals in a third in the same year?

Detroit won all three titles that season (1935/36), still the only time one city has held three major sports titles at the same time. (To answer the question if there has been two titles and another finalist I think the answer is a few times)

[tennbengal]

To sum up: Tony Romo is straight trash. I can send you all my newsletter.

My favorite was where he says "Eh, that's sort of a soft hold there..." on the holding penalty on the KC OL.

KC's #75 (Remmers) had the Bucs edge rusher in a freakin chokehold.

A LITERAL CHOKEHOLD.

Romo is a fuckstick.

[Johnnie]

I feel like KC is going to win by 12 at least.

And now they I say that, I've totally jinxed it.

This is why I don't gamble.

[brian]

Besides that one year for Detroit back in the 30s, was there a time a city won two titles and made it to finals in a third in the same year?

Detroit won all three titles that season (1935/36), still the only time one city has held three major sports titles at the same time. (To answer the question if there has been two titles and another finalist I think the answer is a few times)

Boston did it fairly recently IIRC.

[degenerasian]

Besides that one year for Detroit back in the 30s, was there a time a city won two titles and made it to finals in a third in the same year?

Detroit won all three titles that season (1935/36), still the only time one city has held three major sports titles at the same time. (To answer the question if there has been two titles and another finalist I think the answer is a few times)

Boston did it fairly recently IIRC.

Close. Bruins in 11, Red Sox in 13 and Patriots in 13/14.

[sancarlos]

[Johnny Carwash]

I feel like I've been watching Mahomes throw underneath soft zones for two hours straight.

[L-Jam3]

Score and miss the 2, fuckers.

[The Sybian]

Can we give Todd Bowles the MVP?

[sancarlos]

[Johnnie]

What we missed:

[sancarlos]

You need Kevin Harlan calling the play-by-play!

[mister d]

I think Brady is a pile of shit but you can’t argue against what just happened.

[brian]

[EnochRoot]

I can't imagine how you give Brady the MVP. If it were 31-24, sure. But the Chiefs - the most prolific offense arguably in NFL history was held to NINE points.

[tennbengal]

I can't imagine how you give Brady the MVP. If it were 31-24, sure. But the Chiefs - the most prolific offense arguably in NFL history was held to NINE points.

I mean, not for nothing, there the Chief o-line was an absolute shell of itself.

[EnochRoot]

I can't imagine how you give Brady the MVP. If it were 31-24, sure. But the Chiefs - the most prolific offense arguably in NFL history was held to NINE points.

I mean, not for nothing, there the Chief o-line was an absolute shell of itself.

No doubt about it. Still, the true MVP of the Super Bowl was the Bucs’ defense.

[Johnnie]

[degenerasian]

The Chiefs were fortunate to win last year. They should have 0 rings.

[Ryan]

Hi good morning the MVP was Devin White. Like I don't even follow these teams enough to know what their playbooks are like but you'd think the Chiefs would have tried a couple screens after seeing the dam break on every single dropback but they probably pictured White defending one and said "nope, fuck that"

[rass]

In-house Pats/Brady fan reply-all'd to my email announcing the winners of the company SB box pool with a photoshop of Mahomes on Brady's shoulders with the label "bring your kid to work day" or something similar.

[duff]

In-house Pats/Brady fan reply-all'd to my email announcing the winners of the company SB box pool with a photoshop of Mahomes on Brady's shoulders with the label "bring your kid to work day" or something similar.

Not Tom's kid. He wasn't open mouth kissing him.

[Johnny Carwash]

I'm scanning the New England news for the "local fans think this counts as a Super Bowl win for them" articles.

[EnochRoot]

Hi good morning the MVP was Devin White. Like I don't even follow these teams enough to know what their playbooks are like but you'd think the Chiefs would have tried a couple screens after seeing the dam break on every single dropback but they probably pictured White defending one and said "nope, fuck that"

Or Shaq Barrett. Or Jason Pierre Paul. Or Vita Vea. Or Lavonte David for shutting Kelce down for the meaningful minutes of the game before the Bucs went prevent for most of the 4Q.

[EnochRoot]

[Gunpowder]

The one time recently that my numbers have this game really well pegged and I don't follow them.

[DSafetyGuy]

Hey, Dsafe - they could have used a better sound man for this halftime show.

The production company did one senseless thing last year (they were involved last year, as well, while learning about the show). They brought in enough audio gear to blow out the stadium (the vendor had to sub-rent gear to supply the Grammys because all their equipment went to MiamI). Why do that for an in-person audience in the thousands when the show is watched by hundreds of millions on TV? Seriously, you could not make out a single word of the lyrics last year.

I thought it was terrific.

[Pruitt]

Hi good morning the MVP was Devin White. Like I don't even follow these teams enough to know what their playbooks are like but you'd think the Chiefs would have tried a couple screens after seeing the dam break on every single dropback but they probably pictured White defending one and said "nope, fuck that"

Or Shaq Barrett. Or Jason Pierre Paul. Or Vita Vea. Or Lavonte David for shutting Kelce down for the meaningful minutes of the game before the Bucs went prevent for most of the 4Q.

What an incredible performance. White and David and Barrett... the entire defence. And Tyreek Hill is one of the few players who I like seeing getting taunted.

[HaulCitgo]

Before you give all credit to the d, Brady and Fournette were good. Sometimes it's the matchups and that plan has been around a while. Works a lot better when you get there off the edges and have a suh, even an old one. Chiefs should have recognized and run at them even deep into second half. For all the credit to bienemy, they should have had a plan b and c to make into plan a. Really the chief lost on d in the first half. Those penalties were bad and over and over and over. The fourth down off sides the kind of stuff that loses Superbowls

[wlu_lax6]

I did not catch any conversation on this during the game, but Kelce looked beat up. He was slow to get up, slow to get back to the huddle, did not look fast off the line. Really noticeable after he got the reception boxing out the defender (add Mahomes who was hurt before the gaming getting pounded and hobbled).

My wife (not a huge football fan) also picked up on how much bigger the Tampa o-line looked against the Chief's d-line. Most of the game a run up the middle was 3 or 4 yards.

Wonder how much Tampa or the NFL officials teams got to the crew in advance of the game about the holding by the chiefs secondary. They were looking for those calls and anything close was called.

[Baloney]

“Champa Bay”? Please tell me they’re not trying to make that a thing.

Here you go

[Gunpowder]

Hey, Dsafe - they could have used a better sound man for this halftime show.

The production company did one senseless thing last year (they were involved last year, as well, while learning about the show). They brought in enough audio gear to blow out the stadium (the vendor had to sub-rent gear to supply the Grammys because all their equipment went to MiamI). Why do that for an in-person audience in the thousands when the show is watched by hundreds of millions on TV? Seriously, you could not make out a single word of the lyrics last year.

I thought it was terrific.

Sounded shitty where I was. The one act in 5 years I actually liked and it was the one I ended up disliking most.

[L-Jam3]

Wonder how much Tampa or the NFL officials teams got to the crew in advance of the game about the holding by the chiefs secondary. They were looking for those calls and anything close was called.

To that point, The Lead this morning mentioned that the ref, Carl Cheffers, is known for calling defensive holding/PI tight. As the crew chief, he'd be the one that would stress to the other officials how tight to call it, and KC is known as a handsy secondary. I really don't think the calls against KC were especially egregious, with the exception of that high pass in the end zone probably is closer to defensive contact rather than PI. The Chiefs played their game, but they just had a ref that calls in a way that works against them.

[EnochRoot]

Before you give all credit to the d, Brady and Fournette were good. Sometimes it's the matchups and that plan has been around a while. Works a lot better when you get there off the edges and have a suh, even an old one. Chiefs should have recognized and run at them even deep into second half. For all the credit to bienemy, they should have had a plan b and c to make into plan a. Really the chief lost on d in the first half. Those penalties were bad and over and over and over. The fourth down off sides the kind of stuff that loses Superbowls

Right. It was a blowout because Tom Brady and all the weapons he has at his disposal. But even Daniel Jones would’ve won last night given Reid / Bieniemy’s decision to pretend their OL would withstand the Bucs’ front seven. Shoot, was the Bucs’ defense even winded by the 4Q? Even a little bit?

Wonder how much Tampa or the NFL officials teams got to the crew in advance of the game about the holding by the chiefs secondary. They were looking for those calls and anything close was called.

To that point, The Lead this morning mentioned that the ref, Carl Cheffers, is known for calling defensive holding/PI tight. As the crew chief, he'd be the one that would stress to the other officials how tight to call it, and KC is known as a handsy secondary. I really don't think the calls against KC were especially egregious, with the exception of that high pass in the end zone probably is closer to defensive contact rather than PI. The Chiefs played their game, but they just had a ref that calls in a way that works against them.

This is another instance where the Chiefs coaching staff was slow to react (if at all).

[Gunpowder]

I mean how do you really just coach around having no functional OL against a team like Tampa Bay? The defense is also acutely aware of what you can and cannot do.

They should have tried to run in the 1st quarter, absolutely. Other than that, what's the secret elixir?

[Nonlinear FC]

Yeah, we were at a fire pit gathering and someone mentioned both starting tackles were out, plus Mahomes was playing with turf toe. Which sounds innocuous.. unless you've had it or seen someone struggle with it.

And then you saw the 1Q and.. that shit was never really in doubt.

[EnochRoot]

I mean how do you really just coach around having no functional OL against a team like Tampa Bay? The defense is also acutely aware of what you can and cannot do.

They should have tried to run in the 1st quarter, absolutely. Other than that, what's the secret elixir?

Quick outs, slants, passes in the flat. Plays that get the ball into the hands of their fast guys in open space. It’s about making the front four run laterally as much as anything, really.