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So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
That's similar to a game elementary students play. It's good because it encourages more participation.

I would have loved watching the 2004 Red Sox outfield mess it up.
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Even if the next bulletpoint were "team that punches Mister D's parents the most gets 1st overall pick", I couldn't hate these proposals any more than I do now.
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EdRomero wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:36 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
That's similar to a game elementary students play. It's good because it encourages more participation.

I would have loved watching the 2004 Red Sox outfield mess it up.
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I am kinda intrigued by the match play concept.

Though if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.
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mister d wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:44 pm Even if the next bulletpoint were "team that punches Mister D's parents the most gets 1st overall pick", I couldn't hate these proposals any more than I do now.
Blame Manfred for teams having to get creative.
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Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pmThough if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.
The home team would be repeatedly playing for the tie if they went down one. It would be awful.
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mister d wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:50 pm
Steve of phpBB wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pmThough if you have to play until someone wins five innings, that could lead to a lot of longer games if there are a lot of tied innings.
The home team would be repeatedly playing for the tie if they went down one. It would be awful.
Hm. I wonder how that would play out in reality. In extra-inning games, have you noticed a difference in the way the game is played when the visiting team scores one in the top of the inning? (Or in the ninth inning of a game where the home team is down by one.) I assume there are more sacrifice bunts in those situations, but do we know if that's true?
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Do we ever!

SH per 1,000 PA (2016-2020):
1st inning: 1.3
2nd inning: 6.1
3rd inning: 7.2
4th inning: 4.7
5th inning: 5.8
6th inning: 3.4
7th inning: 4.2
8th inning: 3.2
9th inning: 3.1
Ext inning: 14.0
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I wish I could break this out by position player only. The peaks in the 2nd, 3rd and 5th would indicate its pitchers doing a lot of the bunting pre-extras.
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Here's a perfectly formatted list of the total position player bunt attempts by inning for 2010-2020. If I didn't give up on plate appearances loading after 2 minutes, we could get the percentage.

1
953
2
2533
3
3142
4
2069
5
2831
6
1819
7
2109
8
1778
9
1306
10+
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I would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound, and just for giggle foul ball catches for outs ("Give that fan a contract" at O's games would be a bit more meaningful...)
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Stephen King would lead the league in putouts
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pmI would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound
I like both of these in theory but you'd have to have exceptions (injuries, bugs flying in eyes, shit like that) and then you'd have to manage the teams that take advantage of the exceptions.
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Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.
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The Sybian wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:02 pm Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.
Manfred is trying his hardest.
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
Interesting, but it’s a different game than baseball so give it a different name.
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sancarlos wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:38 pm
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
Interesting, but it’s a different game than baseball so give it a different name.
Cricket?
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pm I would take no stepping out of the box, no visits to the mound, and just for giggle foul ball catches for outs ("Give that fan a contract" at O's games would be a bit more meaningful...)
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:14 pm
The Sybian wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:02 pm Might as well cut to the chase and just end baseball altogether.
Manfred is trying his hardest.
Good for him. It's about time someone did something. Is he the Commish? What has he done? I assume he has nothing to do with the Bananas rules.
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And... Here's what it looks like.

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Actually, while I love the Jomboy guys, skip to around the 12 minute mark for actual game play. The advancing on a walk is hilarious and fun.

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I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
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The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
This is a 4 game series where they are trying some things out
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The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
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wlu_lax6 wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:57 am
The Sybian wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am I'm confused, are they playing in a league with these rules, or playing separate exhibitions for fun? I see they are in the Coastal League. So confused, but they got my attention and I saw they sold out every game between 2017-2019, and I can't imagine many minor league teams can say that.
This is a 4 game series where they are trying some things out
Oh, that's fun! I'm all for this. Anything that brings in fans and attention has to be good.
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Didn't see a baseball thread.

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wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
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That is great.
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I hope that guy got on base. That is a whole lot of show to ground out or take a pitch for a called 3rd strike.
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A_B wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am
wlu_lax6 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm So the Savannah Bananas are trying a new style of baseball

* No Walks..on ball 4 the runner takes off, the other team has to through the ball to all of the other players on the field. Batter goes as far as he can
* No stepping out of the batters box once you step in
* No visits to the mound (just yell when you want to swap pitchers)
* you win an inning by having more runs, first to 5 innings wins
* fan catches a foul ball, out

Games are taking just over 90 minutes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/savannah-b ... 1616071307
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I'm gonna be down there this weekend and I'm really bummed that it's impossible to get tickets. I might still try and buy some merch. (My mom grew up down there, so I have a thin bond with the city to begin with.)
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